the majority of them havent got a backbone and would be too scared to become his next "target"

therefore i agree with you jackson it is 50% their fault

To a certain extent, I agree with you. The reason Vinnie has been able to take control, is because the others have let him. They have all been very submissive and compliant, which has made it easy for Alpha Vinnie to take charge.

whats that famous quote?

all it takes for evil to triumph is for people to remain silent.

something like that anyways.

 and i am not saying vinnie is evil btw,lol.

Zactly. . they only have themselves to blame. .that's why the whole thing makes me giggle so much [including all the outrage it has spawned] . .or maybe I am just  evil..

and there's no point waking up suddenly and mouthing off, al la Sisqo,  with only a week to go just cos you got nommed ..   too little  too late

They are scared of him I dont think Stephen is intimated so much by him as the others, he will wind Vinnie up most of them say they like him I am at a loss to wether they really do like him or not

ello olls,x.


 what a dopey lot they are, nearly everyone of them annoys me at some point.

ello marge,x.

i don't know if they are scared of him or scared of  the void, people like steph,ivana and dane have so little regard for the capabilities of any of the others, they probably think they'll starve or die from  the galloping nasties.

the words editing and bb always has a baddy, they all seem to like him, we see nothing of the show really

I can agree with you to a point Jackson but we're out here looking in and gobbing off about it.  Living with him would be different.  And I liked him at the beginning when he was less imposing, so they probably genuinely have built up respect and admiration for him and all he does in the house.  But you heard Steven to Jonas in the kitchen last night warning him not to oppose Vinnie.  Yes they should have more backbone, but that's easy for us to say.  Maybe 25% their fault

Yeah, but Steven's the biggest stirrer and game player in there imo.   I really hope he doesn't get voted out tonight.

stephen is playing his own game, noty, he makes me laugh but  let's not take him seriously.

Oh don't get me started on Stevie "Groovy" B.  Yes, I know what you're saying but the point I was making is that Vinnie is intimidating but yet has good points and commands respect at the same time.  I think you would feel like you were on your own against the whole house if you stood up to Vinnie when he's been out of order, e.g. with Ivana.  Yes, they should have more backbone, but I understand why they're daunted and even why some of them blindly agree with everything he says without questioning it.

If I was in there, I'd have been thinking 'Go Vinnie'   I don't mind Ivana, but she's obviously gone in there with 'Princess' written into her contract... she's often commented on things that she's had in her contract (like a watch) and obviously no nudity, which is fair enough, so they gave her skin tone undies.   She's pretty much swanned about doing nothing that would detract from her 'image'

thats my point  noty, sometimes  you have to stand up and be counted and to hell with the consequences.

I've seen nothing so far to suggest Vinnie has detracted from his image

The same thing happened when Carole took over the BB house she ruled the roost by ruling the kitchen and yet none of them nominated her.

Really?   I never imagined him washing up, cooking and cleaning toilets.   I thought he'd be a stupid moronic thug (and I know you're going to say he is ) but I really don't believe he is.

Kaffy he's a control freak that has perfectionist tendancies and tries to impose his behaviour on others.  I think Ivana has really pulled her weight in the house and thrown herself into the tasks which I never expected her to tbh.......I thought she'd be a right old diva

I think most of them feel scared and intimidated.
If they actually admire Jones, then I question their judgment.

I don`t think he is either.

At least with Vinnie, what you see is what you get, unlike some of them who, well, are`nt all they seem!  
I don`t go along with the theory that they`re "scared" of him either, they voted for him to do the "Kitchen duties," after they tried it Sovs` and a few others way, and almost ran out of food. In fact, they  seem quite happy to  let him do most of the hard work, and Dane is the only other one who seems to do much cooking in there.


I personally think that BB has very cleverly edited it, to suit their story line, and I would love to see what they haven`t shown us.                                                                                                                                                                                    I suspect we`d see something completely different, as I guess by now, most of us know what  "creative" editing can do!!!

Scared? Intimidated?.....No! He's running after them all cooking and cleaning and that means they're onto a good thing. He keeps winding them up to see how far they'll go...which is  apparently after him like a flock of sheep..it's their own fault that they haven't stood up to him, they're a set of wusses apart from Stephen...who is barking anyway.

Was he meaning it genuinely, or a bit tongue-in-cheek though?

Stephen does make quite a few tongue-in-cheek remaks, his timing is garbage though and most of his intended meaning is lost.