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muf.
Well I’ve resisted watching this elsewhere muf, but I saw this first here. It’s about 6:00 AM here now and I’m knackered (I need sleep)!
Speak to you later.
Best regards, suricat.
muf.
quote:Could the whole difference between all the sides of the argument be 'some that panic and some that don't'??
That’s quite possible. The initial human response to an external stimulus (like a question that hasn’t been previously encountered) tends to be one of a defensive nature that delays the full response [ref: personal insight]. This reflects on the past experience (fields of knowledge and levels of understanding) of the individual. Let’s face it, Climate Science is truly ‘diverse’ and has great depth.
Many questions and answers must have terrifying repercussions to the uninitiated! I remember when, many years ago, I heard that the UN declared that the ozone layer was being depleted. At that time of my youth I was head of a sheet-metalworking department of a ‘jobbing engineering company’. My first response to my work-mates was "But ozone is just oxygen in a different form. This is oxygen depletion! We’ll all suffocate if this gets serious.". Of course, this wasn’t a justified reaction, but the problem for me at that time was the relative fields of my knowledge and my depth of understanding within the fields that were relevant (or lack of). Thus, I panicked!
I’ve moved on a lot since then.
quote:I know that I personally tend not to panic and I guess that You like me look a problem and set about [trying to] solve it.
Well, apart from the bad grammar, you’re probably correct.
The thing is muf, I’m a universal millwright (equivalent to a 7 year apprenticeship) and of the engineering fraternity. My career is the antithesis in juxtapose to science. Science sets the constants and variables, and I manipulate them to the benefit of ‘whoever’ employs me. However, recently I’ve been unemployed for a long time due to illness and family problems. Thus, I’m here on the net to keep my hand in (just in case I get employed before I retire).
When things go wrong I hit ‘maintenance mode’. The first question I ask is "What are we doing now that’s different to what we were doing before things went wrong?". If that shows a ‘nul’ I then ask "What has changed in the material that we do things to". I think Steve McIntyre can explain the latter better than I can, but this is also tied up in the contrary science between micro and macro observation (quantum theory and established science, in that order).
I don’t really care what goes on in the science community as long as it comes up with a consensus that is in agreement with its accepted historical findings! The current output from science is so much in conflict with past directives that I’m sure engineers don’t know which directive that they should take.
I guess that policy-makers have the same dilemma, but enough here. It’s already after 4 AM (again).
Best regards, suricat.
muf.
I’m up late again. I heard about Lord Monckton’s encounter with local police in Denmark on the news, so I wasn’t surprised to see him included with these ‘Climate Videos’ from there;
http://www.danskfolkeparti.eu/Climate-Videos.asp
or the encounter reported in "Counting Cats in Zanzibar";
http://www.countingcats.com/?p=5322
however, I was surprised to see his actions elsewhere:
http://scienceandpublicpolicy..../pachauri_letter.pdf
Do you think these things could be related?
Best regards, suricat.
