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This is driving me nuts. 


This woman from down the road (5 doors away,) keeps parking DIRECTLY opposite our driveway, and it's making it incessantly difficult to get in and out, so we are having to park on the road, because if someone parks at the 'side' of us - like next door, we have to bump up the bloody flagstones and pavement to get in and out! 


I am SURE she isn't supposed to be parked directly opposite someone's drive.  Paricularly as my other half suffers a chronic illness and is registered disabled. 

This woman has done this before, and we asked her politely to move, and she effed and blinded and screamed like a banshee with her arms flailing around, and said she would park wherever she effing wanted, and we said we would call the police if she didn't move it.


She ran off ranting, and then it was moved, and she didn't put it there again for ages, (this was a year ago.)  But now she has started doing it again...  the car has been there permanently now for the last 3 days.  Half on the road and half on the pavement. They are currently having some building work done, and there are vehicles parked around their home, so maybe she is restricted on where she can park right now, but why park right opposite OUR drive?!  There are a dozen other places she could park.  The cul de sac has 50 houses, and plenty of other spaces to park.


Speaking to her about it isn't an option as she will only scream at me and eff and blind again and I'm not prepared to have conflict.


Can anyone help?  I found this in the highway code online. 


http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Tr...ighwaycode/DG_069860


In section 244, it says:


"Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs."


It also says:



"You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it."





So surely she is breaking some kind of law here, and if so, who should we contact?  The police or council?


Hope someone can help.  Thank you.

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the police aren't to bothered by people parking  perched up on the pavements, tbh, i reported one to the police that was parked on a main road and  caused  a woman with a pushchair to circumnavigate the car by using the carriageway, the police  said' is it causing a traffic build up?' i said  it wasn't  and that was the end of the convo.
jacksonb
Unless there are local parking restrictions, it's a police matter.  Causing an obstruction.  If you ring up then try to pick a quiet time when they may actually be interested.  Mid-afternoon, say.

Alternatively, if you're willing to break the law yourself, run your keys down the pavement side of her car.  She'll wonder if it's someone who's chossed off about her pavement parking as long as you haven't made a scene recently.  It's a pity it's a cul de sac really.

Not that I'm advocating vigilante action, of course,  But if the authorities won't act when they are obliged to then natural law comes into play I think. 
FM
Thanks folks.  TBH Daniel, I was thinking of bloody well chucking brake fluid over the wretched car, or keying the effing thing, but am afraid I will get spotted doing it LOL.  She had a massive row with my next door neighbour a few months ago (who she is inconveniencing with her parking too a bit,)  about our neighbours dog attacking her dog, so I guess if her car got keyed, she wouldn't know which one of us it was.  Or of it was us at all.  I am also worried though that she will key ours back.


This woman is terribly disagreeable, and will scream in your face.  I am not a violent person, but I swear if she shouts at me again, I will smack her in the face, then I will be in trouble with the law!


Maybe I could take the advice of the first poster for now, and see if it gets moved when the building work is done.  I know that she is struggling to park near her own property, but there is loads of other places she could perch herself, and it's always opposite MY drive.  GRRRR!  I think if it carries on, then I'm gonna have to contact the police, because it's causing a massive inconvenience, but I am not 100% certain if she is breaking a law or not.  I am sure she must me as, my other half is registered disabled, and is having to walk from the road where we are currently parking, instead of being able to get out by the door.
cockney-chick
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wouldn't go the keying and damage route frosty, you'll get banged up.. can't you park so you block her in, and then go out for the day? maybe you and your other neighbour could manage it.
I know you're probably right Jackson, we would get into trouble.  The cops probably wouldn't care about her inconveniencing us, but they would soon come if her car got vandalised.  Her hubby has a car too, so if we blocked her in, they would probably just use his car.  The silly bint's car has been parked opposite our drive for 3 full days now, and hasn't moved!  Her dad came at 9am today, and she went out with him in HIS car; it's like she is doing her level best to make sure it's staying there. 
cockney-chick
my mum and dad are having simialr problems on their street, the house 3 doors to their right has turned his garden into what looks like a scrap yard, with trucks and and smashed up cars and when he's got to much he parks them on the street.


The house opposite sells cars from his house, which he parks on the street, its not a very wide street and he doesn't park over their drive but he does either side which makes it very hard to see whats coming, one of the neighbours contacted the police and they said if the cars are taxed and insured he can park them where he wants, the council sent a letter to everyone last week to say they would be walking around the estate with local councillors and if you wanted to comment on anything you could stop them and speaks to them, my dad decided he would say something, when he got up on the morning they where coming he looked out the window and both of the problem neighbours had moved all the cars and trucks overnight
Aimee
oooh things like this really get my goat!  She shouldn't be obstructing access to your home.  I don't know how 'helpful' the police are over there on these things, but certainly the gardai over here are very slow to act.

What I would do is, write her a letter explaining that she obstructing your access to your house, ask her to desist or else you'll have no option but to take matters further, if that means contacting the local police station or your solicitor then unfortunately that's what you'll have to do.  I'd also put in about your husband and why you need the access (though you shouldn't have to give an excuse to get into your own house!).

Keep it simple, clean and reasonable and good luck, with whatever you decide to do
FM
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I am sure she must me as, my other half is registered disabled, and is having to walk from the road where we are currently parking, instead of being able to get out by the door.
That's the line to take with the police, I think.  I wouldn't be fobbed off by them.  Insist something needs to be done.  If they're causing an obstruction that it's covered by the Road Traffic Act and the police are obliged to at least investigate, especially if it's putting pedestrian lives at risk.  Like I say, it's a pity it's a cul de sac as walking into through road to avoid an obstruction on the pavement is an obvious risk and the police would be responsible if it were reported and they fail to act.  I'd ram that point home I think.
FM
I wouldn't think the police would be interested if the person is parking on the opposite side of the road from your driveway, and there are no parking restrictions on the road?
Parking on the pavement is a different matter, but all they would be forced to do was park fully in the road, which would actually restrict you further (if I'm reading it right?)

Perhaps the best bet, if the road is too narrow for parking, is to campaign for the council to put parking restrictions on the road? Doubt if that would be popular with some of your neighbours though.

Put all thoughts of vandalism out of your mind.
That way lies madness.

Personally I'd give her a bit of leeway till the building work was finished, then see what happened.
emptybox
looks like she may have parked partly  on the pavement to try and not make it too difficult for you to get out of your driveway. . i.e. gave you as much road space as possible...

as others have said, wait and see what happens when the builders leave.. if she still leaves the car there then try a really polite letter explaining about your husbands disabilities and the difficulty of  manoeuvring out of you drive with a car parked directly opposite it.. she may respond better to a polite explanation and request in writing than she does if it is said  directly to her face.. doing her property damage will only make things worse for you in the long run..
Mount Olympus *Olly*
Thank you all so much for your replies. Sorry for the delay in answering. I have been at work all yesterday afternoon andall day today and only just got back on here... I guess I would be better avoiding the vandalism route LOL, although is is flamin' tempting. LOL. I did actually think waiting til the work was done may be a good idea, especially after people said it... although she is having an extension and one of our neighbours reckons it will take another month!


There is now a different slant on this though... I spoke to my next door neighbour this morning, and she said that the woman in question's next door neighbour (6 doors from me,) said that the car had in actual fact conked out! THAT is why it's been stuck there PERMANENTLY for about 6 bloody days. She said that the car started backfiring and chucking out tons of jet black smoke from the engine the other day, and she couldn't restart it...  so it was rolled it opposite our drive - to get it out of the way of the builders probably! And she has left it there.  I have looked at it, and the tyres are quite knackered too, and pretty illegal I would think.


The woman has now borrowed a car from her dad, as her mom and dad have one each, AND a works van, so they can do without a third vehicle for a while, and now the knackered car is stuck there - abandoned, with no sign of them moving it. I said to my neighbour 'when is she going to move it?' and she said 'I dunno; I never speak to her, I can't stand her.


So thing is, has this changed things? Is she allowed to actually dump an unroadworthy car, half on a footpath and half on the road, with seemingly no intention of moving it?


Sorry, I know I am a nuisance. I just don't know where to turn, and I am hoping someone can advise me. My neighbour isn't overly bothered about it, but then it does affect her less than us. Surely this woman can't just dump a knackered car opposite someone's drive indefinately. Maybe the rules about cars being parked up are different if the car is unroadworthy? As I said, approaching her isn't an option, as she is vile; aggresive and confrontational, and is more likely to leave it there longer!
cockney-chick
If it's showing a valid tax disc there then yes she's allowed to park the vehicle.  It would be up to the Police to determine if it's road worthy but as it's stationary I doubt there's a lot you can do about it.

You could always make a discreet enquiry to your local council (I think it should come under environmental health) and ask them about their abandoned cars policy and explain what it is that's wrong and ask for their advice - you never know they might send someone round to look at it, especially if you explain that it's causing a nuisance to you getting in and out of your driveway and the problems it causes you and your other half with regards to his disability.  If you ask them to also be discreet, they won't let on who called them although she'll probably guess it's one of her near neighbours.

have a hug
FM
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liverbird 1480 Forum PostsToday at 13:05 (Edited: ) My Dad reported a car dumped in his road (a cul de sac) with no tax disc and it was weeks before anything was done Hope it works out soon
Nuisance innit?!    Glad it was OK in the end though.


I have actually heard from several sources in the recent past, that inconsiderate parking on housing estates/cul de sacs etc, is the biggest cause of neighbourhood conflict; after noise nuisance.  This is also backed up from my 15 years of working in housing.  People were forever complaining about their neighbours parking badly and blocking them in or making it hard for them to manoeuvre out of the drive, and also there used to be complaints about a few people having 5 or 6 cars at a time, and doing the damn things up to sell!
cockney-chick
If it's got a valid tax disc she can leave it there, however, you could say it looks conked out and it's obstructing you, you wouldn't want to bump it would you? I wonder if it has a valid MOT (as you say it is a banger), or if it's insured?

I have parking problems here and have had to resort to sneaky measures (me and my neighbour now have it licked between us)....I never park in someone elses spot in my street as i know how annoying it is, even if someone is parked in my spot but there are a few neighbours who don't adhere to the same rules as the rest of us.....i

...the disability angle is probably the best way to go with this
The Devil In Diamante
Thanks DID   I will check the tax disc tomorrow.  And if it's out of date, who di I report it to?  the DVLA or the cops or the council?


I think with the age of the car (around 1994) and the fact it's a basic ford, it will probaby cost more to fix than it's worth, so she better not intend on leaving it there forever.  Then again, if the tax IS valid, it will run out eventually, and she can't get it retaxed without an MOT and insurance!  So time will tell.
cockney-chick

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