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The mother-of-two, who pleaded guilty to abusing children at Little Ted's Nursery in Plymouth, Devon, had previously refused to identify her victims.

At Bristol Crown Court earlier this month, George, 39, from Plymouth, admitted seven sexual assaults and six counts of distributing and making indecent pictures of children.
 
The court heard she had consistently refused to name which of the 30 infants on a police shortlist she had assaulted.

The judge, Mr Justice Royce, urged her to disclose the identities of her victims to spare their parents further anguish.

He told George's barrister, Nicolas Gerasimidis: "If I were a parent I would want to know. Would it not at least be decent for her to indicate who she has abused and who she has not?"

The judge indicated her response to his request would be taken into account when he sentenced her.

George betrayed her position of trust to abuse and take pictures of the infants after forming an internet paedophile ring with two accomplices she had encountered "by chance" on Facebook, the social networking site.

George has provided her defence lawyers with the names of some children which have been passed onto Devon and Cornwall police for further investigation.

It is understood that police are trying to establish whether children can be positively identified before informing the affected parents.

A police spokesman confirmed officers were "in dialogue" with defence lawyers, and added that they were "regularly updating" parents.

The spokesman said: "Currently, no individual children have been identified, but we continue to investigate this."

Some parents have said they do not want to know whether George has abused their children, while others are anxious to find out.

George is due to be sentenced next month, with two other members of the ring Colin Blanchard, 39, from Rochdale, Greater Manchester, and Angela Allen, also 39, from Nottingham, who have also pleaded guilty to sex abuse charges.

A third woman, from Portsmouth, has been charged with child sex offences after she was arrested by police investigating the ring.

Tracy Lyons, 39, a pregnant mother of eight, who had also worked in a nursery, has been remanded in custody until the New Year

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Some parents have said they do not want to know
I have been greatly disturbed about this this morning,from day one I have said I would want to know,but now she has named Im not so sure,id be scared in case Id damage my child more by my reaction,would I be over protective and suffocate the child,how would I react?Im not sure.  Of coures there will be counselling for the Parents which sways me a bit more to the yes Id want to know.  what I am sure of is the fact Id like the chance to put my hands round her neck.
Mary Seacole

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Some parents have said they do not want to know whether George has abused their children


What the hell?
What normal, concerned parent WOULDN'T want to know if their child had been abused? For pity's sake..

Do they think if they ignore it, it'll be as if it never happened? What about any affected child, growing up and knowing that, not only were they abused by this monster, but that Mummy and Daddy didn't want to know.

Demantoid
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but now she has named Im not so sure,id be scared in case Id damage my child more by my reaction,would I be over protective and suffocate the child,how would I react?
My Mum and i were discussing that,very tricky one...


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I think it would have to be based on the age of my child and the type of abuse. It would be a tough call for me to make. If my child seems unaffected and is going on with his normal routine and all that, it might be better to just let it go than to try and drag it all out.
The Devil In Diamante
But just because they seem unaffected now, doesn't necessarily mean they are. The effects might not be seen now, but could cause problems in the longer term.

If I was a parent, I'd want to know. A child might be bottling it up and pretending everything's fine when it's not. And even if everything really did seem fine, I'd want to be prepared for any future problems arising from it.
Demantoid
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It annoys me that she was told she could face a longer sentence if she didn't name names???? In effect bargaining with her.....I do hope that the Families of these children can get help and try to come to terms with it once they know
I agree DID. We wont ever know if she did this out of a sene of shame or just to get a lighter sentence. This case put me off coming here for a while, just the thought that people like her could do what she did and in the next breath maybe post in a thread about what to have to supper. I just can't get my head round somebody like her and really hope she gets a very long sentence and will be vilified for the rest of her life.
cologne 1
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Demantoid 5903 Forum PostsToday at 12:44 PM (Edited: ) But just because they seem unaffected now, doesn't necessarily mean they are. The effects might not be seen now, but could cause problems in the longer term. If I was a parent, I'd want to know. A child might be bottling it up and pretending everything's fine when it's not. And even if everything really did seem fine, I'd want to be prepared for any future problems arising from it.

And is there any chance that a kid who wasnt abused might have witnessed it??I think its a dangerous premise to htin that because a kid doesnt remember it now,that it might not affect them later in life.There are well documented cases of kids suffering later in life as a result of birth and neo-natal trauma...none of which they can recall,but is somehow rooted in their psyche.Kids who are removed from their home before the age of one as a result of neglect can show very deviants behaviours at a later age even if they've gone to a loving placement very shortly afterwards, and can have no recollection of their early months.Dont know how those families cope with all this.
M
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How the hell do you find fellow sick fantasists on facebook???Its not as if you can put it down as one of your interests??
This is something that has always baffled me Mazzy If i got friendly with someone who even hinted at something as sick as this, I'd report them in a heartbeat...I once read that 'they' reckon if Myra Hindley and ian Brady hadn't met, they would've never commit their crimes....how the hell do these people meet....???? I cannot understand how people have these thoughts, let alone find another person with the same twisted minds...
The Devil In Diamante
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I agree DID. We wont ever know if she did this out of a sene of shame or just to get a lighter sentence. This case put me off coming here for a while, just the thought that people like her could do what she did and in the next breath maybe post in a thread about what to have to supper. I just can't get my head round somebody like her and really hope she gets a very long sentence and will be vilified for the rest of her life.
So she'll probably receive a more lenient sentence now she has named names...there should be no bargaining at the length of sentence what-so-ever...the crime she has commit is still as twisted as anything I have ever heard and I'd be quite happy to see her stoned...maybe the bargaining tool shoud've been the same length sentence, but if she didn't name names, left in a room with the parents of the children, or any 'normal' adult for that matter......I cannot express my hatred for this thing!
The Devil In Diamante
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I cannot express my hatred for this thing!
Same...crimes against kids baffle me on so many levels.
For many crimes I can see how it happened..how someone got drawn into the chance of making some easy money,how they became hooked on drugs,etc which drove them into a spiral of crime and depravity,but I just cant see how anyone could plan to hurt a kid.
I'm loathe to describe any human as evil..for the most part I'd like to think we were good but sometimes make bad decisions....but,this kind of stuff floors me.I have no words to describe the perpetrators of such evil crimes.It's the only time I feel my blood boil..and if my kid was a victim of such a sick crime,I dont think I could suppress a very violent urge towards these people.
M
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I have no words to describe the perpetrators of such evil crimes.It's the only time I feel my blood boil..and if my kid was a victim of such a sick crime,I dont think I could suppress a very violent urge towards these people.
Same here, I'm not a violent person, i hate violence, but things like this, well, i feel so much rage and anger towards these people, I do understand why people take matters into their own hands in cases like this..
The Devil In Diamante

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