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Originally posted by Free Thinking:

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Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:
he come out of the bedroom because Charlie went in, asked who laughed, then when Freddie told him it was him and why, charlie went out and said 'hes laughing in there', so Freddie jumped up to explain what he said,

TBH I dont see the problem

Ok he explained to Charlie, why then come out and say something to Bea? Marcus was dealing with the situation and defending him adequately both against Bea and Charlie.

Best tactic would not be to come out with a quick remark to a crying Bea or to engage in an argument with Charlie when those two obviously can't communicate with each other. Charlie can't even understand some of his words lol. Charlie played the role of comforter to Bea and pretended he was some kind of mediator between Bea and Marcus very cleverly.

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Originally posted by SJ:
IMO the question should be why did Freddie wait until thattime to come out. Of course people should defend themselves but why wait until then, when it sounded like Marcus had broken her and she was crying.

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Originally posted by Penelope Pitstop:

He would have been better staying in bed and not trying to confront her and i think he did that because he heard Marcus support him which gave him courage. It's sad that he needs that sort of backup to make him feel brave but that's freddie for ya.

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Originally posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
if you could hear someone talking about you for well over an hour, would you just lie there and ignore it? She was talking about him, why the hell should he just lie there and let her pull him to bits.

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by Penelope Pitstop:

He would have been better staying in bed and not trying to confront her and i think he did that because he heard Marcus support him which gave him courage. It's sad that he needs that sort of backup to make him feel brave but that's freddie for ya.

No that`s not Freddie for ya. He got up when Charlie opened the bedroom door and asked who was laughing. He got up and explained to Charlie that he was laughing at the irony of Bea`s comment to Marcus "If you can`t take it, don`t give it"

He also did NOT confront Bea. He never spoke to her at all.

Bang goes your "Freddie needing Marcus` back backup to feel brave" theory.

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
...and have a snap at Bea? 'If you can't take it don't give it' or whatever he said. I thought he said he was going to keep out of arguments. Marcus was doing well enough explaining things to Bea.

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Originally posted by hey jude:
Sorry not up to reading 17 pages. Has anyone pointed out that the only reason Freddie was awake was because Bea had been in his draw nicking his cider and some tea for her and Charlie.

When they bottled out Charlie put it back in the draw making a noise and waking Freddie up

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by Penelope Pitstop:

He would have been better staying in bed and not trying to confront her and i think he did that because he heard Marcus support him which gave him courage. It's sad that he needs that sort of backup to make him feel brave but that's freddie for ya.

No that`s not Freddie for ya. He got up when Charlie opened the bedroom door and asked who was laughing. He got up and explained to Charlie that he was laughing at the irony of Bea`s comment to Marcus "If you can`t take it, don`t give it"

He also did NOT confront Bea. He never spoke to her at all.

Bang goes your "Freddie needing Marcus` back backup to feel brave" theory.

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****ing hell.. I swear sometimes people watch this programme in a universe you'd need a visa to get into..

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by Penelope Pitstop:

He would have been better staying in bed and not trying to confront her and i think he did that because he heard Marcus support him which gave him courage. It's sad that he needs that sort of backup to make him feel brave but that's freddie for ya.

No that`s not Freddie for ya. He got up when Charlie opened the bedroom door and asked who was laughing. He got up and explained to Charlie that he was laughing at the irony of Bea`s comment to Marcus "If you can`t take it, don`t give it"

He also did NOT confront Bea. He never spoke to her at all.

Bang goes your "Freddie needing Marcus` back backup to feel brave" theory.

Well said Scotty, honestly some people would try to make Freddie look bad for just being in a room. If you want to look for aggressive people looking to boss people about try looking at Lisa and Bea and Charlie.

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Originally posted by rusticana:

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****ing hell.. I swear sometimes people watch this programme in a universe you'd need a visa to get into..

Well I watched it on planet Earth - dont know where you were.

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
he laughed when Bea said (to Marcus while SHE was turning on the waterworks)
"you can give it out but you cant take it" or something along those lines,

and after listening to her going on for ages, THAT line was probably the final straw for fred, AND the fact she was saying THAT while fake crying,
was probably the point at which Fred thought "F this, I am going out to speak to her myself"
we will NEVER KNOW what his intentions were, cause MR brave bloke jumped on him as soon as he came out of the bedroom,

NOW I am going to do something that DOESNT come easily to me,....DEFEND Charlie,
cause I WANT to be fair, Charlie doesnt know ALL of what has gone on between Bea and Fred,
AND he sees her crying, and being the "simple" chap he is, he just went by the normal MALE instincts," woman cry woman upset, I am male MUST defend woman" (which is WHY she used it)
he (in HIS tiny mind)
had sat there while Marcus "had a go at her to the point where she was crying"
and then IN HIS MIND Fred was gonna come out n join in, he is scared of Marcus, but NOT Fred,
so he took out his frustration with BOTH of them
on the "weaker" member Fred,
SIMPLE,
ya have to remember when talking about Charlie he doesnt DO "thinking"

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Originally posted by rusticana:

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****ing hell.. I swear sometimes people watch this programme in a universe you'd need a visa to get into..

Well I watched it on planet Earth - dont know where you were.

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Tayto:
He also laughed loud enough to be heard.

Good point.. well made, Madam..

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Tayto:
He also laughed loud enough to be heard.

Good point.. well made, Madam..

Not really considering it was the dead of night and the only voice to be heard was greetin` faced Beas. You`d have to be deaf not hear anyone laughing in these circumstances.

Did you measure the decibals of his laughter or are you just guessing?

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Tayto:
He also laughed loud enough to be heard.

Good point.. well made, Madam..

Not really considering it was the dead of night and the only voice to be heard was greetin` faced Beas. You`d have to be deaf not hear anyone laughing in these circumstances.

Did you measure the decibals of his laughter or are you just guessing?

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Tayto:
He also laughed loud enough to be heard.

Good point.. well made, Madam..

Not really considering it was the dead of night and the only voice to be heard was greetin` faced Beas. You`d have to be deaf not hear anyone laughing in these circumstances.

Did you measure the decibels of his laughter or are you just guessing?

I was under the table with me equipment..

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Tayto:
He also laughed loud enough to be heard.

Good point.. well made, Madam..

Not really considering it was the dead of night and the only voice to be heard was greetin` faced Beas. You`d have to be deaf not hear anyone laughing in these circumstances.

Did you measure the decibels of his laughter or are you just guessing?

I was under the table with me equipment..

What were the measurements?

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Tayto:
He also laughed loud enough to be heard.

Good point.. well made, Madam..

Not really considering it was the dead of night and the only voice to be heard was greetin` faced Beas. You`d have to be deaf not hear anyone laughing in these circumstances.

Did you measure the decibals of his laughter or are you just guessing?

He laughed loudly enough to be heard? Yes and he explained to everyone who asked in the bedroom why he had laughed. And I would have flippin laughed too!

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Tayto:
He also laughed loud enough to be heard.

Good point.. well made, Madam..

Not really considering it was the dead of night and the only voice to be heard was greetin` faced Beas. You`d have to be deaf not hear anyone laughing in these circumstances.

Did you measure the decibels of his laughter or are you just guessing?

I was under the table with me equipment..

What were the measurements?

One of them was... 7.2

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Originally posted by Scotty:
You lucky girl.

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Scotty:
You lucky girl.

it's 1 more than the national average you know..

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Scotty:
You lucky girl.

it's 1 more than the national average you know..

Do you know this through statistics only?

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by Penelope Pitstop:

He would have been better staying in bed and not trying to confront her and i think he did that because he heard Marcus support him which gave him courage. It's sad that he needs that sort of backup to make him feel brave but that's freddie for ya.

No that`s not Freddie for ya. He got up when Charlie opened the bedroom door and asked who was laughing. He got up and explained to Charlie that he was laughing at the irony of Bea`s comment to Marcus "If you can`t take it, don`t give it"

He also did NOT confront Bea. He never spoke to her at all.

Bang goes your "Freddie needing Marcus` back backup to feel brave" theory.

Well said Scotty, honestly some people would try to make Freddie look bad for just being in a room. If you want to look for aggressive people looking to boss people about try looking at Lisa and Bea and Charlie.

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Scotty:
You lucky girl.

it's 1 more than the national average you know..

Do you know this through statistics only?

Marcus said so.. so it must be true..