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Originally posted by Marguerita:

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
She will think the public is on her side whether Freddie or Marcus goes...

But if Marcus goes she will know for definate that we don't agree with her bullshit.

that wont make ANY DIFFERENCE cause ALL of them will be on Fred like a bunch of hyenas, and I just dont think Fred can take em on,.... they will "pull him down" he isnt strong enough to fight them ALL, where Marcus would RELISH it,
when the chips are down and the clock is ticking it is NOT the time to take your strongest player OFF the field,
I warn ya take Marcus out of the game and team bastard have WON,
I will repepat my predidction, within 2 days (EASILY) someone either Lisa or Charlie WILL say to OR ABOUT Fred, "hey aint so cocky now he hasnt got his mate to back him up"
they ARE afraid to take Marcus on, they are like vultures waiting ....waiting for Marcus to be out of the picture and operation destroy Freddie will start,..mark my words,

I'm totally agreeing with you here OHG, I've been saying it since nominations were announced. I don't want either to go, but Freddie coping if this continues is not looking good. Two panic attacks in as many days, I dread to think what's going to happen if BB don't step in. Charlie's stepped up to Freddie bash, Bea, Lisa won't give in, Sophie will agree with Team Twat...the list gets longer daily!

Don't forget that at one stage Freddie was completely ostracised, he wept all on his own. And no I don't sneer at that, I would have as well. He is a very gregarious person, he loves to be surrounded by positive people. It would make me sick to my stomach to see Bea's look of triumph on Friday. At least if Freddie stays she will be uncertain of how we are feeling.

It was awful in the begining for Freddie although he was not completely ostracised,but he said to Bea Noireen and Issac deserved to be ostracised, this is were Freddie lets himself down he does back to others what has been done to him.

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by Yogi 19:

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Originally posted by squiggle:
Bear in mind that if Freddie goes this week then Bea will think that she has won. Because he has been her main target. Far more than if Marcus goes.

I want Freddie to stay but I am concerned that he may not cope very well without the support of Marcus. Bea and Lisa`s group are already circling round Freddie like a pack of wolves, and I`m not sure he`ll be able to fight them off. I really wish it wasn`t Freddie V Marcus this week.

He knows what Bea is now. Siavash will be there for him

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Originally posted by Clipboard:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
She will think the public is on her side whether Freddie or Marcus goes...

But if Marcus goes she will know for definate that we don't agree with her bullshit.

that wont make ANY DIFFERENCE cause ALL of them will be on Fred like a bunch of hyenas, and I just dont think Fred can take em on,.... they will "pull him down" he isnt strong enough to fight them ALL, where Marcus would RELISH it,
when the chips are down and the clock is ticking it is NOT the time to take your strongest player OFF the field,
I warn ya take Marcus out of the game and team bastard have WON,
I will repepat my predidction, within 2 days (EASILY) someone either Lisa or Charlie WILL say to OR ABOUT Fred, "hey aint so cocky now he hasnt got his mate to back him up"
they ARE afraid to take Marcus on, they are like vultures waiting ....waiting for Marcus to be out of the picture and operation destroy Freddie will start,..mark my words,

Very true OHG. Oh what a shit week this is. My heart wants Freddie to stay but my head says Marcus should instead

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Originally posted by jennywren:

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Originally posted by 15:10:
Freddie needs to stay.


As much as it will be sad to see Marcus go.

Difficult, isn't it?

Do we keep Freddie to launch him back into her clutches?

Or do we keep Marcus who will give her as good as he gets?

If Freddie stays, again, it might give him more confidence to withstand her onslaughts. Marcus says he wants to go.

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Originally posted by squiggle:
Marcus has said he wants to go. If Freddie stays and there is another vote to save next week Bea would definitely be out. I truly believe that if Freddie goes this week then the game is over.

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Originally posted by jennywren:

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Originally posted by 15:10:
Freddie needs to stay.


As much as it will be sad to see Marcus go.

Difficult, isn't it?

Do we keep Freddie to launch him back into her clutches?

Or do we keep Marcus who will give her as good as he gets?

If Freddie stays, again, it might give him more confidence to withstand her onslaughts. Marcus says he wants to go.

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by Yogi 19:

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Originally posted by squiggle:
Bear in mind that if Freddie goes this week then Bea will think that she has won. Because he has been her main target. Far more than if Marcus goes.

I want Freddie to stay but I am concerned that he may not cope very well without the support of Marcus. Bea and Lisa`s group are already circling round Freddie like a pack of wolves, and I`m not sure he`ll be able to fight them off. I really wish it wasn`t Freddie V Marcus this week.

He knows what Bea is now. Siavash will be there for him

SORRY but Siavash will NOT "be there" for Fred, he just wont, sorry

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by jennywren:

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Originally posted by 15:10:
Freddie needs to stay.


As much as it will be sad to see Marcus go.

Difficult, isn't it?

Do we keep Freddie to launch him back into her clutches?

Or do we keep Marcus who will give her as good as he gets?

If Freddie stays, again, it might give him more confidence to withstand her onslaughts. Marcus says he wants to go.

I think IF Marcus stays he would be gob smacked, BUT he would hear "the message" loud and clear, and the message is....GO GET EM BOY,

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by jennywren:

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Originally posted by 15:10:
Freddie needs to stay.


As much as it will be sad to see Marcus go.

Difficult, isn't it?

Do we keep Freddie to launch him back into her clutches?

Or do we keep Marcus who will give her as good as he gets?

If Freddie stays, again, it might give him more confidence to withstand her onslaughts. Marcus says he wants to go.

I think IF Marcus stays he would be gob smacked, BUT he would hear "the message" loud and clear, and the message is....GO GET EM BOY,

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by jennywren:

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Originally posted by 15:10:
Freddie needs to stay.


As much as it will be sad to see Marcus go.

Difficult, isn't it?

Do we keep Freddie to launch him back into her clutches?

Or do we keep Marcus who will give her as good as he gets?

If Freddie stays, again, it might give him more confidence to withstand her onslaughts. Marcus says he wants to go.

I think IF Marcus stays he would be gob smacked, BUT he would hear "the message" loud and clear, and the message is....GO GET EM BOY,

Sorry to disagree but the most probable result would be he would follow Freddie out the door. It seems to be heads they win tails we lose.

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
She will think the public is on her side whether Freddie or Marcus goes...

But if Marcus goes she will know for definate that we don't agree with her bullshit.

that wont make ANY DIFFERENCE cause ALL of them will be on Fred like a bunch of hyenas, and I just dont think Fred can take em on,.... they will "pull him down" he isnt strong enough to fight them ALL, where Marcus would RELISH it,
when the chips are down and the clock is ticking it is NOT the time to take your strongest player OFF the field,
I warn ya take Marcus out of the game and team bastard have WON,
I will repepat my predidction, within 2 days (EASILY) someone either Lisa or Charlie WILL say to OR ABOUT Fred, "hey aint so cocky now he hasnt got his mate to back him up"
they ARE afraid to take Marcus on, they are like vultures waiting ....waiting for Marcus to be out of the picture and operation destroy Freddie will start,..mark my words,

I'm totally agreeing with you here OHG, I've been saying it since nominations were announced. I don't want either to go, but Freddie coping if this continues is not looking good. Two panic attacks in as many days, I dread to think what's going to happen if BB don't step in. Charlie's stepped up to Freddie bash, Bea, Lisa won't give in, Sophie will agree with Team Twat...the list gets longer daily!

Don't forget that at one stage Freddie was completely ostracised, he wept all on his own. And no I don't sneer at that, I would have as well. He is a very gregarious person, he loves to be surrounded by positive people. It would make me sick to my stomach to see Bea's look of triumph on Friday. At least if Freddie stays she will be uncertain of how we are feeling.

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Originally posted by jennywren:

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
She will think the public is on her side whether Freddie or Marcus goes...

But if Marcus goes she will know for definate that we don't agree with her bullshit.

that wont make ANY DIFFERENCE cause ALL of them will be on Fred like a bunch of hyenas, and I just dont think Fred can take em on,.... they will "pull him down" he isnt strong enough to fight them ALL, where Marcus would RELISH it,
when the chips are down and the clock is ticking it is NOT the time to take your strongest player OFF the field,
I warn ya take Marcus out of the game and team bastard have WON,
I will repepat my predidction, within 2 days (EASILY) someone either Lisa or Charlie WILL say to OR ABOUT Fred, "hey aint so cocky now he hasnt got his mate to back him up"
they ARE afraid to take Marcus on, they are like vultures waiting ....waiting for Marcus to be out of the picture and operation destroy Freddie will start,..mark my words,

I'm totally agreeing with you here OHG, I've been saying it since nominations were announced. I don't want either to go, but Freddie coping if this continues is not looking good. Two panic attacks in as many days, I dread to think what's going to happen if BB don't step in. Charlie's stepped up to Freddie bash, Bea, Lisa won't give in, Sophie will agree with Team Twat...the list gets longer daily!

Don't forget that at one stage Freddie was completely ostracised, he wept all on his own. And no I don't sneer at that, I would have as well. He is a very gregarious person, he loves to be surrounded by positive people. It would make me sick to my stomach to see Bea's look of triumph on Friday. At least if Freddie stays she will be uncertain of how we are feeling.

No, she'll know he's still popular. She may give him a wide berth for a while and work on some one else, then go in for the kill later.

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No, she'll know he's still popular. She may give him a wide berth for a while and work on some one else, then go in for the kill later.

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by jennywren:

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Originally posted by 15:10:
Freddie needs to stay.


As much as it will be sad to see Marcus go.

Difficult, isn't it?

Do we keep Freddie to launch him back into her clutches?

Or do we keep Marcus who will give her as good as he gets?

If Freddie stays, again, it might give him more confidence to withstand her onslaughts. Marcus says he wants to go.

I think IF Marcus stays he would be gob smacked, BUT he would hear "the message" loud and clear, and the message is....GO GET EM BOY,

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by jennywren:

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
She will think the public is on her side whether Freddie or Marcus goes...

But if Marcus goes she will know for definate that we don't agree with her bullshit.

that wont make ANY DIFFERENCE cause ALL of them will be on Fred like a bunch of hyenas, and I just dont think Fred can take em on,.... they will "pull him down" he isnt strong enough to fight them ALL, where Marcus would RELISH it,
when the chips are down and the clock is ticking it is NOT the time to take your strongest player OFF the field,
I warn ya take Marcus out of the game and team bastard have WON,
I will repepat my predidction, within 2 days (EASILY) someone either Lisa or Charlie WILL say to OR ABOUT Fred, "hey aint so cocky now he hasnt got his mate to back him up"
they ARE afraid to take Marcus on, they are like vultures waiting ....waiting for Marcus to be out of the picture and operation destroy Freddie will start,..mark my words,

I'm totally agreeing with you here OHG, I've been saying it since nominations were announced. I don't want either to go, but Freddie coping if this continues is not looking good. Two panic attacks in as many days, I dread to think what's going to happen if BB don't step in. Charlie's stepped up to Freddie bash, Bea, Lisa won't give in, Sophie will agree with Team Twat...the list gets longer daily!

Don't forget that at one stage Freddie was completely ostracised, he wept all on his own. And no I don't sneer at that, I would have as well. He is a very gregarious person, he loves to be surrounded by positive people. It would make me sick to my stomach to see Bea's look of triumph on Friday. At least if Freddie stays she will be uncertain of how we are feeling.

No, she'll know he's still popular. She may give him a wide berth for a while and work on some one else, then go in for the kill later.

And hopefully jenny before then we can get Bea out.

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Originally posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

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Originally posted by jennywren:
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No, she'll know he's still popular. She may give him a wide berth for a while and work on some one else, then go in for the kill later.

Remember though, when Bea went into the house Marcus wasn't as popular as he is now, she may think Marcus just went for all the reasons she stated in the diary room last night.

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Originally posted by jennywren:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by jennywren:

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Originally posted by 15:10:
Freddie needs to stay.


As much as it will be sad to see Marcus go.

Difficult, isn't it?

Do we keep Freddie to launch him back into her clutches?

Or do we keep Marcus who will give her as good as he gets?

If Freddie stays, again, it might give him more confidence to withstand her onslaughts. Marcus says he wants to go.

I think IF Marcus stays he would be gob smacked, BUT he would hear "the message" loud and clear, and the message is....GO GET EM BOY,

So might Freddie, if he gets enough confidence back by being kept in.

Pluse, I read somewhere, that if Freddie goes, Marcus will walk. Might lose both of them, then, and that really will be the end of the show. Other than Siavash, none of the others has any real popularity.

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Originally posted by jennywren:


She will know that Marcus's popularity has waivered, particularly during the Noirin affair. Prior to that, he became some sort of anti-hero.

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Originally posted by jennywren:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by Yogi 19:

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Originally posted by squiggle:
Bear in mind that if Freddie goes this week then Bea will think that she has won. Because he has been her main target. Far more than if Marcus goes.

I want Freddie to stay but I am concerned that he may not cope very well without the support of Marcus. Bea and Lisa`s group are already circling round Freddie like a pack of wolves, and I`m not sure he`ll be able to fight them off. I really wish it wasn`t Freddie V Marcus this week.

He knows what Bea is now. Siavash will be there for him

SORRY but Siavash will NOT "be there" for Fred, he just wont, sorry

He will, for a while.