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She gets worse!!!!!!

Freddie's a twat, Freddie is a tool, me me me, Freddie is this, that, it's alright to nick from him etc me me me, positive, negative, nasty, etc....

And Marcus is speaking load of sense again and she isn't buying it or listening. Telling her she will be hated when she leaves! And about her influencing people etc Go Marcus!!!! Even if it is falling on deaf ears.

I know I will get stick for this now but I truly hope she gets shunned everywhere she goes and also I hope she gets a few slaps as well. Seriously. Nasty feckin bint!

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Originally posted by langster:
OMFG!!

She is getting PWNED by Marcus. It's just a REAL shame that the only person up listening is Charlie who is too feckin stupid and influenced and biased to understand what Marcus is saying.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!! Mad Mad Mad


Charlie has a gormless look when people talk about certain things, but he takes in what suits him, and uses it when it suits hinm
Yellow Rose
Very true Nod

But he's another one who in his Audition Tape said he was "dead nice"

Now she is on about how everyone bitches about Lisa and yet she came in and hated Lisa, and didn't she say in the DR that she thought Lisa was a cockroach and she needed to go?

Her hypocrisy knows no bonds. It's astounding. Truly astounding.

Mad

GRRRRRRR! ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL!
langster
quote:
Originally posted by langster:
OMFG!!

She is getting PWNED by Marcus. It's just a REAL shame that the only person up listening is Charlie who is too feckin stupid and influenced and biased to understand what Marcus is saying.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!! Mad Mad Mad
I'm still watching, and am sitting here with my gob open!!!! Eeker Eeker Eeker

She's a freaking freak show!

I'm recording this and won't DARE wipe it, because I shall spout quotes from her, off of this recording, in order to vigorously REBUT whatever old shite she tries to come off with tomorrow!

And, yes, Charlie the Chump is sitting there like a prize mug hearing a plethora of words that he has no fooking clue what the meanings actually are.

Oh here we go, sis - she's got the 'pretendy tears voice on now' and is ONCE AGAIN going on about her not being 'negative' Roll Eyes Mad

If she shed an actual tear, I'll dance through the forum nekkid Sick

She's fooking HORRENDOUS!

Oh, she's off to the DR now, and has told Marcus she's going to tell them that he's a bully Mad Mad Mad Mad

ALL that Marcus did, was tell 'QUEEN BEA THE ALMIGHTY' that she's a nasty BITCH!

GO MARCUS!

God help em, if he goes on Friday! *cries hystereically!*

Oh she's class!

'Don't give it, if you can't take it!'

She's such a shit-stirrer!

Charlie is telling her that she's wonderful (camera, lights, action - roll Roll Eyes) and Knob must have yelled out something because Charlie told him to shut up - didn't hear what it was, cannot comment.
K
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I'll dance through the forum nekkid



WIT WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Laugh I can't wait Razzer

Charlie doesn't know what hypocrisy means.

Right, I have had it now, I am truly spitting feckin feathers and just pretended to punch the telly.

I will knock Charlie out if a female can knock Bea out please. Seriously. Charlie is starting on Freddie now and I can't stand it.

Oh and Marcus is a bulleh FFS and Freddie has no right to be involved when she has just slagged him to high heaven all day and night!!!

Mad

Seriously, I would kick off now if I was in there. Mad
langster
I'm actually laughing at her now.

How can someone who is being "victimised" actually play the victim?

Hypocritical, manipulative, nasty, evil, vindictive, calculating, horrible, pathetic, moronic, feckin orrible fake little slutbag!

LOL!

It's funny, I actually think she is definitely the worst ever BB contestant, and there have been some really bad ones for sure.

She engineered this whole thing. It's so blindingly obvious, I just wish Charlie could see it. But that aint ever gonna happen. FFS! If only it was Lisa or Rodders who were up. I think they both would have seen it for what it really was.
langster
quote:
Originally posted by langster:
I'm actually laughing at her now.

How can someone who is being "victimised" actually play the victim?

Hypocritical, manipulative, nasty, evil, vindictive, calculating, horrible, pathetic, moronic, feckin orrible fake little slutbag!

LOL!

It's funny, I actually think she is definitely the worst ever BB contestant, and there have been some really bad ones for sure.

She engineered this whole thing. It's so blindingly obvious, I just wish Charlie could see it. But that aint ever gonna happen. FFS! If only it was Lisa or Rodders who were up. I think they both would have seen it for what it really was.
She's playing them all. I can't believe they can't see it. Its making me wanna put my foot through my telly, whilst tearing my hair out and running down the road screaming.

They're the WORST load of idiots to be in there with her!

She should have been in there with the likes of Slick Vic, Science, Brian Dowling, Charley - or any of the rest of em who'd have told her to FOOKING SHUT TEH FOOK UP!
K
Exactly KG and Yellow Rose.

I just wish Marcus would stop trying to mediate and just actually be really feckin rude and just tell her how it is chav styleeeeee rather than trying to tell her in a relaxed manner.

She needs to hear it and she needs to be brought down a peg or fifty!

I am not joking I would have ripped her to shreds, and I would have done it maturely yet extremely honestly and yeah, I would not hold back at all. I wouldn't pander to her fake crocodile tears that only appeared when she finally realised she was fighting a losing battle. Grrrrrrrrrr! Mess with the bull, you get the feckin horns.

Marcus just let rip FFS! You have told her the truth now just unleash the feckin dogs of war on her.
langster
quote:
Originally posted by langster:
She gets worse!!!!!!

Freddie's a twat, Freddie is a tool, me me me, Freddie is this, that, it's alright to nick from him etc me me me, positive, negative, nasty, etc....

And Marcus is speaking load of sense again and she isn't buying it or listening. Telling her she will be hated when she leaves! And about her influencing people etc Go Marcus!!!! Even if it is falling on deaf ears.

I know I will get stick for this now but I truly hope she gets shunned everywhere she goes and also I hope she gets a few slaps as well. Seriously. Nasty feckin bint!


well said
I have watched it all tonight [again]
She is an insidious mentally cruel nasty dangerous piece of cunning work
CYBERDAZZLE
quote:
Originally posted by langster:
I'm actually laughing at her now.

How can someone who is being "victimised" actually play the victim?

Hypocritical, manipulative, nasty, evil, vindictive, calculating, horrible, pathetic, moronic, feckin orrible fake little slutbag!

LOL!

It's funny, I actually think she is definitely the worst ever BB contestant, and there have been some really bad ones for sure.

She engineered this whole thing. It's so blindingly obvious, I just wish Charlie could see it. But that aint ever gonna happen. FFS! If only it was Lisa or Rodders who were up. I think they both would have seen it for what it really was.


I agree. I said the other day that I thought she was one of the worse HM's we have had.
Liverpoollass
quote:
Originally posted by langster:
I'm actually laughing at her now.

How can someone who is being "victimised" actually play the victim?

Hypocritical, manipulative, nasty, evil, vindictive, calculating, horrible, pathetic, moronic, .


Interesting you should say that Langster - the writer Margaret Atwood wrote in her book entitled Survival that there are four basic victim positions; while she wrote of these with regard to Canada's status she believes these stages can also be applied to people:

One: To deny the fact that you are a victim.
Two: To acknowledge the fact that you are a victim, but to explain this as an act of Fate, the Will of God, the dictates of Biology (in the case of women, for instance), the necessity decreed by History, or Economics, or the Unconscious, or any other large general powerful idea.
Three: To acknowledge the fact that you are a victim but to refuse to accept the assumption that the role is inevitable.
Four: To be a creative non-victim.

Position 1 uses up a lot of energy, as you explain away the obvious, suppresses anger, pretends certain visible fact do not exiist. This position is usually adopted by by those in a victim group. They are afraid to admit they are being victimised as they fear losing privileges they possess, they are forced to account somehow, for the disadvantages suffered by the rest of the group by disparaging them - as in 'I' made it, therefore it should be obvious we aren't victims. The rest are either lazy, neurotic or stupid - therefore it's their own fault if they aren't happy and look for any opportunities available for them.

If anger is felt by victims in this position it is therefore directed against one's fellow victims, particularly those talking about their victimisation. The basic game is therefore 'Deny your victim experience'.

2 Acknowledge you're a victim by explaining it to be an act of fate, God's will, biology, history, economy or any large powerful idea.
In any case it will be the fault of this larger thing not your own - thus you cannot be blamed or do anything about it, thus you will be resigned and long suffering, or you can hit back and make a fuss - if you choose the latter you will be considered foolish or evil even by yourself - so you expect to lose and be punished as who can fight fate, God, biology etc? Everyone in this position is inferior according to oneself and others.
the basic game is: Victor/Victim

3 Acknowledges the fact that you are a victim but refuse to accept the assumption that the role is inevitable as in 'look at what's being done to me, it isn't fate or the will of God therefore I'm not a 'fated' victim'.Thus you can distinguish between the role of a victim which might lead you to seek victimisation even when there's no call for it. A dynamic position rather than static as you can quickly move to position 4. If you fail to move on from this you will fall back to position 2.
In this position the real cause of oppression is, for the first time identified. Anger can be directed to the real source and channelled into constructive action. Here you can make real decision about how much you want to change your position - eg; you may not be able to stop it snowing but you can stop blaming the snow for everything.
Basic game here is: repuidiating the victim role.

4 - To be a creative non-victim.

This is not a position for victims but for those who have never been a victim, or for ex-victims such as those who have moved from position 3 - here the internal/external causes of victimisation have been removed. In an oppressed society the whole of the society has to change.
This position allows for creative activity of all kinds - energy is no longer supressed (as in position 1) or used for displacement of the cause as in passing your victimisation along to others as in 'man kicks child, child kicks dog' as in position 2; nor is it being used for the dynamic anger as in position 3.

therefore, here you are able to accept your experience for what it is, rather thandistort it to make it correspond with others' versions of it (particularly those of your oppressors).
Position 4 the Victor/Victim games are obsolete as you do not have to concentrate on rejecting the role of victim - it is no longer a temptation.


I hope you find this interesting, I used this analogy while writing my thesis on The Handmaid's Tale.
GMA
quote:
Originally posted by gma:
quote:
Originally posted by langster:
I'm actually laughing at her now.

How can someone who is being "victimised" actually play the victim?

Hypocritical, manipulative, nasty, evil, vindictive, calculating, horrible, pathetic, moronic, .


Interesting you should say that Langster - the writer Margaret Atwood wrote in her book entitled Survival that there are four basic victim positions; while she wrote of these with regard to Canada's status she believes these stages can also be applied to people:

One: To deny the fact that you are a victim.
Two: To acknowledge the fact that you are a victim, but to explain this as an act of Fate, the Will of God, the dictates of Biology (in the case of women, for instance), the necessity decreed by History, or Economics, or the Unconscious, or any other large general powerful idea.
Three: To acknowledge the fact that you are a victim but to refuse to accept the assumption that the role is inevitable.
Four: To be a creative non-victim.

Position 1 uses up a lot of energy, as you explain away the obvious, suppresses anger, pretends certain visible fact do not exiist. This position is usually adopted by by those in a victim group. They are afraid to admit they are being victimised as they fear losing privileges they possess, they are forced to account somehow, for the disadvantages suffered by the rest of the group by disparaging them - as in 'I' made it, therefore it should be obvious we aren't victims. The rest are either lazy, neurotic or stupid - therefore it's their own fault if they aren't happy and look for any opportunities available for them.

If anger is felt by victims in this position it is therefore directed against one's fellow victims, particularly those talking about their victimisation. The basic game is therefore 'Deny your victim experience'.

2 Acknowledge you're a victim by explaining it to be an act of fate, God's will, biology, history, economy or any large powerful idea.
In any case it will be the fault of this larger thing not your own - thus you cannot be blamed or do anything about it, thus you will be resigned and long suffering, or you can hit back and make a fuss - if you choose the latter you will be considered foolish or evil even by yourself - so you expect to lose and be punished as who can fight fate, God, biology etc? Everyone in this position is inferior according to oneself and others.
the basic game is: Victor/Victim

3 Acknowledges the fact that you are a victim but refuse to accept the assumption that the role is inevitable as in 'look at what's being done to me, it isn't fate or the will of God therefore I'm not a 'fated' victim'.Thus you can distinguish between the role of a victim which might lead you to seek victimisation even when there's no call for it. A dynamic position rather than static as you can quickly move to position 4. If you fail to move on from this you will fall back to position 2.
In this position the real cause of oppression is, for the first time identified. Anger can be directed to the real source and channelled into constructive action. Here you can make real decision about how much you want to change your position - eg; you may not be able to stop it snowing but you can stop blaming the snow for everything.
Basic game here is: repuidiating the victim role.

4 - To be a creative non-victim.

This is not a position for victims but for those who have never been a victim, or for ex-victims such as those who have moved from position 3 - here the internal/external causes of victimisation have been removed. In an oppressed society the whole of the society has to change.
This position allows for creative activity of all kinds - energy is no longer supressed (as in position 1) or used for displacement of the cause as in passing your victimisation along to others as in 'man kicks child, child kicks dog' as in position 2; nor is it being used for the dynamic anger as in position 3.

therefore, here you are able to accept your experience for what it is, rather thandistort it to make it correspond with others' versions of it (particularly those of your oppressors).
Position 4 the Victor/Victim games are obsolete as you do not have to concentrate on rejecting the role of victim - it is no longer a temptation.


I hope you find this interesting, I used this analogy while writing my thesis on The Handmaid's Tale.


Sorry I passed out shortly after writing that post at about 5am lol. And I have only just logged back in now. Normally I wouldn't bump my old threads from the previous day/morning, but I felt your post deserved a reply. Yeah I did find it very interesting. Thanks, it does explain quite a bit Smiler Thumbs Up
langster

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