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Originally posted by spongebob squarepants:

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Originally posted by Videostar:
Freddie has never influenced anyone to nominate anyone, if he was sat near Bea when she was rabbiting on about nominations thats hardly his fault.

except he clearly said to bea.....'roddy sees through dave.....you should talk to roddy'......after both he and bea had sat discussing in a none to clever way about putting dave up for eviction...discussing between them how marcus and siavash would see it their way......bea then said....'but that's not enough who think our way'.....freddie then told her to speak to rodrigo....

It's no worse than what Lisa has been doing for weeks, I doubt Freddie would stoop to this (if indeed thats what they were doing)if Lisa and gang hadn't of started it.

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I'm hoping that when the Nomination Results are announced, BB will show the nominations on the plasma screen so everyone will know who lied. Devil



Awww evil.

Awwwww, fankoo......so very kind

the...'you should talk to rodrigo' discussion was shown last night.....so i'd imagine was a convo held saturday night....as we're always shown the previous day

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Originally posted by shar69:

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Originally posted by shar69:

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Originally posted by Videostar:

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Originally posted by shar69:

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Originally posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:

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Originally posted by Videostar:
As Sophie's noms talk seems to have resulted in open influencing of nominations.

This is heaven for Lisa.

Is it Sophie's punishment though? I know I may have missed it, but where is the evidence that it is?

Sophie did ask peeps to put her up for eviction. Don't know why it would just be Sophies' punishment because Bea, Halfwit, Marcus and Siavash all spoke about nominations as well, so I would imagine that the punishment is for all of them not just Sophie.

I dont think the others were openly discussing noms, Sophie was openly telling everyone to put her up.

Maybe you was making a cup of tea when Freddie and Bea were talking about David. Freddie telling Bea to talk to Roddy about David.

Was that before or after they all knew the game was up after the Sophie rule break.?

As far as I am aware, it happened before.

As far as your aware.? hmmm ok.

Well I doubt they were openly getting others to vote a certain ay because there would have been outrage on this forum.

VS read through this thread, there are a few people saying the same thing. But I guess you are just going to come back with 'Freddie haters', which to be honest VS is not the case.

I dont call everyone Freddie haters, just the ones that feel the need to blame him for everything or call him names.

last night as was majority of highlight show was bea ripping apart dave at the bus stop her usual place with freddie

she was counting up siavash was there at this stage how many votes it would take to get dave and lisa up to save them,she counted 4 herself siavash fred and marcus,she counted their votes she went on again about dave fred mentioned lisa she said DAVE will never vote her,fred said why not mention this stuff about dave to rodrigo i was shocked at him saying this,it was no debate no observing as he would say it was try and get rod in on it

She was openly saying who was nominating who just like lisa would so obvious and fred was agreeing nodding

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Originally posted by Videostar:

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Originally posted by spongebob squarepants:

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Originally posted by Videostar:
Freddie has never influenced anyone to nominate anyone, if he was sat near Bea when she was rabbiting on about nominations thats hardly his fault.

except he clearly said to bea.....'roddy sees through dave.....you should talk to roddy'......after both he and bea had sat discussing in a none to clever way about putting dave up for eviction...discussing between them how marcus and siavash would see it their way......bea then said....'but that's not enough who think our way'.....freddie then told her to speak to rodrigo....

It's no worse than what Lisa has been doing for weeks, I doubt Freddie would stoop to this (if indeed thats what they were doing)if Lisa and gang hadn't of started it.

i didn't say it was no worse.....but you're clutching at straws now saying freddie wouldn't have done it if lisa hadn't of started it.....

freddie had no nominations for a good few weeks....he was winning the game....now he's back to square one.

of course it was what he was doing.....neither he nor bea disguised it that well...

he's been shown to be trying to influence nominations and still you won't accept it when it's as clear as day

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Originally posted by cup:
last night as was majority of highlight show was bea ripping apart dave at the bus stop her usual place with freddie

she was counting up siavash was there at this stage how many votes it would take to get dave and lisa up to save them,she counted 4 herself siavash fred and marcus,she counted their votes she went on again about dave fred mentioned lisa she said DAVE will never vote her,fred said why not mention this stuff about dave to rodrigo i was shocked at him saying this,it was no debate no observing as he would say it was try and get rod in on it

She was openly saying who was nominating who just like lisa would so obvious and fred was agreeing nodding

Yes but he didn't actually say anything or indeed do anything to influence anyone.

He cant be found guilty just because he was sat next to her.

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Originally posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:

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Originally posted by Videostar:
As Sophie's noms talk seems to have resulted in open influencing of nominations.

This is heaven for Lisa.

Is it Sophie's punishment though? I know I may have missed it, but where is the evidence that it is?

Sophie did ask peeps to put her up for eviction. Don't know why it would just be Sophies' punishment because Bea, Halfwit, Marcus and Siavash all spoke about nominations as well, so I would imagine that the punishment is for all of them not just Sophie.

I dont think the others were openly discussing noms, Sophie was openly telling everyone to put her up.

Maybe you was making a cup of tea when Freddie and Bea were talking about David. Freddie telling Bea to talk to Roddy about David.

Was that before or after they all knew the game was up after the Sophie rule break.?

As far as I am aware, it happened before.

As far as your aware.? hmmm ok.

Well I doubt they were openly getting others to vote a certain ay because there would have been outrage on this forum.

VS read through this thread, there are a few people saying the same thing. But I guess you are just going to come back with 'Freddie haters', which to be honest VS is not the case.

I dont call everyone Freddie haters, just the ones that feel the need to blame him for everything or call him names.

I feel the same when everyone calls dave names

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Originally posted by spongebob squarepants:

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Originally posted by Videostar:

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Originally posted by spongebob squarepants:

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Originally posted by Videostar:
Freddie has never influenced anyone to nominate anyone, if he was sat near Bea when she was rabbiting on about nominations thats hardly his fault.

except he clearly said to bea.....'roddy sees through dave.....you should talk to roddy'......after both he and bea had sat discussing in a none to clever way about putting dave up for eviction...discussing between them how marcus and siavash would see it their way......bea then said....'but that's not enough who think our way'.....freddie then told her to speak to rodrigo....

It's no worse than what Lisa has been doing for weeks, I doubt Freddie would stoop to this (if indeed thats what they were doing)if Lisa and gang hadn't of started it.

i didn't say it was no worse.....but you're clutching at straws now saying freddie wouldn't have done it if lisa hadn't of started it.....

freddie had no nominations for a good few weeks....he was winning the game....now he's back to square one.

of course it was what he was doing.....neither he nor bea disguised it that well...

he's been shown to be trying to influence nominations and still you won't accept it when it's as clear as day

He only dislikes Lisa, he's not doing it as an evil plan to win, he just sees her as a negative influence in that house, and who can say he's wrong.

BTW how does he know that he hasn't got any noms lately, for all he knows Lisa's been nominating him every week.
NO ONE is going to tel me that Freddie is as bad as Lisa, it's just nonsense.

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Originally posted by cup:
last night as was majority of highlight show was bea ripping apart dave at the bus stop her usual place with freddie

she was counting up siavash was there at this stage how many votes it would take to get dave and lisa up to save them,she counted 4 herself siavash fred and marcus,she counted their votes she went on again about dave fred mentioned lisa she said DAVE will never vote her,fred said why not mention this stuff about dave to rodrigo i was shocked at him saying this,it was no debate no observing as he would say it was try and get rod in on it

She was openly saying who was nominating who just like lisa would so obvious and fred was agreeing nodding

Yes but he didn't actually say anything or indeed do anything to influence anyone.

He cant be found guilty just because he was sat next to her.

FRED SAID to bea What about rod you could mention all this to him

Now all this was how bad dave was how nasty completely ripping him apart and fred suggested lisa but then bea said no way she would nominate him then he said you could talk to rodrigo

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Originally posted by cup:

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Originally posted by Videostar:

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Originally posted by cup:
last night as was majority of highlight show was bea ripping apart dave at the bus stop her usual place with freddie

she was counting up siavash was there at this stage how many votes it would take to get dave and lisa up to save them,she counted 4 herself siavash fred and marcus,she counted their votes she went on again about dave fred mentioned lisa she said DAVE will never vote her,fred said why not mention this stuff about dave to rodrigo i was shocked at him saying this,it was no debate no observing as he would say it was try and get rod in on it

She was openly saying who was nominating who just like lisa would so obvious and fred was agreeing nodding

Yes but he didn't actually say anything or indeed do anything to influence anyone.

He cant be found guilty just because he was sat next to her.

FRED SAID to bea What about rod you could mention all this to him

Now all this was how bad dave was how nasty completely ripping him apart and fred suggested lisa but then bea said no way she would nominate him then he said you could talk to rodrigo

Hang on, is this today or yesterday we are talking about?

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Originally posted by cup:
last night as was majority of highlight show was bea ripping apart dave at the bus stop her usual place with freddie

she was counting up siavash was there at this stage how many votes it would take to get dave and lisa up to save them,she counted 4 herself siavash fred and marcus,she counted their votes she went on again about dave fred mentioned lisa she said DAVE will never vote her,fred said why not mention this stuff about dave to rodrigo i was shocked at him saying this,it was no debate no observing as he would say it was try and get rod in on it

She was openly saying who was nominating who just like lisa would so obvious and fred was agreeing nodding

Yes but he didn't actually say anything or indeed do anything to influence anyone.

He cant be found guilty just because he was sat next to her.

except he did.....he clearly entered the conversation with bea discussing who would see it their way....when bea said 4 wasn't enough freddie told her to speak to rodrigo about dave thus ensuring another vote....

so he wasn't just sat next to her nodding whilst she ranted....he was in discussion with her

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Originally posted by Videostar:
As Sophie's noms talk seems to have resulted in open influencing of nominations.

This is heaven for Lisa.

VS stop with twisting the truth,
BB have said this open nom talk is to do with a good few of them breaking rules.

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Originally posted by Azure:

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Originally posted by Videostar:
As Sophie's noms talk seems to have resulted in open influencing of nominations.

This is heaven for Lisa.

VS stop with twisting the truth,
BB have said this open nom talk is to do with Mucus, Smugwit and Simplvash breaking rules.

But what about the main rule breaker in Sophie?

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Originally posted by Videostar:

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Originally posted by cup:
last night as was majority of highlight show was bea ripping apart dave at the bus stop her usual place with freddie

she was counting up siavash was there at this stage how many votes it would take to get dave and lisa up to save them,she counted 4 herself siavash fred and marcus,she counted their votes she went on again about dave fred mentioned lisa she said DAVE will never vote her,fred said why not mention this stuff about dave to rodrigo i was shocked at him saying this,it was no debate no observing as he would say it was try and get rod in on it

She was openly saying who was nominating who just like lisa would so obvious and fred was agreeing nodding

Yes but he didn't actually say anything or indeed do anything to influence anyone.

He cant be found guilty just because he was sat next to her.

except he did.....he clearly entered the conversation with bea discussing who would see it their way....when bea said 4 wasn't enough freddie told her to speak to rodrigo about dave thus ensuring another vote....

so he wasn't just sat next to her nodding whilst she ranted....he was in discussion with her

Oh well if thats the case they are all as bad as eachother, only Lisa and gang are far more nasty about it and have been doing it since week one.

So i'll be sticking with Freddie, the Vash and Marcus.

Bea can bugger off.

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Maybe you was making a cup of tea when Freddie and Bea were talking about David. Freddie telling Bea to talk to Roddy about David.

But as we have no way of knowing what the intention behind this remark was, we can't really know if this was a good or bad thing.
And that goes for many things that they all say or do, not just this specific incident.

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Originally posted by Videostar:

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Originally posted by spongebob squarepants:

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Originally posted by Videostar:

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Originally posted by spongebob squarepants:

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Originally posted by Videostar:
Freddie has never influenced anyone to nominate anyone, if he was sat near Bea when she was rabbiting on about nominations thats hardly his fault.

except he clearly said to bea.....'roddy sees through dave.....you should talk to roddy'......after both he and bea had sat discussing in a none to clever way about putting dave up for eviction...discussing between them how marcus and siavash would see it their way......bea then said....'but that's not enough who think our way'.....freddie then told her to speak to rodrigo....

It's no worse than what Lisa has been doing for weeks, I doubt Freddie would stoop to this (if indeed thats what they were doing)if Lisa and gang hadn't of started it.

i didn't say it was no worse.....but you're clutching at straws now saying freddie wouldn't have done it if lisa hadn't of started it.....

freddie had no nominations for a good few weeks....he was winning the game....now he's back to square one.

of course it was what he was doing.....neither he nor bea disguised it that well...

he's been shown to be trying to influence nominations and still you won't accept it when it's as clear as day

He only dislikes Lisa, he's not doing it as an evil plan to win, he just sees her as a negative influence in that house, and who can say he's wrong.

BTW how does he know that he hasn't got any noms lately, for all he knows Lisa's been nominating him every week.
NO ONE is going to tel me that Freddie is as bad as Lisa, it's just nonsense.

i'm sure they said he received no nominations a couple of times.....and he wasn't up for eviction a few weeks either

i didn't say anything about an evil plan or doing it to win....those are your words not mine....

i'm simply saying....the very thing lisa did/does....freddie is guilty of as well....

and if he only dislikes lisa....why is he plotting in the link meaty posted to get dave up for eviction??..why not lisa if he dislikes her that much.....

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What kind of punishment is that?

It`s suited Lisa`s gang including Sophie, right down to the ground.

I hope there`s a twist otherwise it`s a farce.

In the same way that the Marcus/Siavash punishment was always going to work against one of the newbies?

Totally different, although Hira was evicted it was never guaranteed it would work out that way. We`re talking about them being allowed to talk nominations. Guaranteed to work in favour of the larger group, team nasty.

I thought Team Nasty was the Bea/Freddie group - isn't that smaller than Team Lisa?

its' not just heaven for Lisa, they have ALL been doing it.

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Originally posted by cup:

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Originally posted by Videostar:

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Originally posted by cup:
last night as was majority of highlight show was bea ripping apart dave at the bus stop her usual place with freddie

she was counting up siavash was there at this stage how many votes it would take to get dave and lisa up to save them,she counted 4 herself siavash fred and marcus,she counted their votes she went on again about dave fred mentioned lisa she said DAVE will never vote her,fred said why not mention this stuff about dave to rodrigo i was shocked at him saying this,it was no debate no observing as he would say it was try and get rod in on it

She was openly saying who was nominating who just like lisa would so obvious and fred was agreeing nodding

Yes but he didn't actually say anything or indeed do anything to influence anyone.

He cant be found guilty just because he was sat next to her.

FRED SAID to bea What about rod you could mention all this to him

Now all this was how bad dave was how nasty completely ripping him apart and fred suggested lisa but then bea said no way she would nominate him then he said you could talk to rodrigo

Hang on, is this today or yesterday we are talking about?

yesterday

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when bea said 4 wasn't enough freddie told her to speak to rodrigo about dave thus ensuring another vote....

Or he could have been subtly spiking her guns.

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when bea said 4 wasn't enough freddie told her to speak to rodrigo about dave thus ensuring another vote....

Or he could have been subtly spiking her guns.

Or he could have been telling her to go and talk to someone else and leave him alone.

Marcus and Siavash broke the rules last week. BB changed the rules to keep the loud mouths (as in everyone but Hira) in the show. The vote to save was a farce.
Lisa didn't try to influence Sophie's vote, she said "who are you nominating?" Sophie said "Marcus and Freddie" Lisa said "So are we" It doesn't take anyone with half a brain to figure out who Lisa and Dave were going to vote for, regardless of whether they ever discussed it or not. This time what big brother has done (so long as they don't turn it around) is more fair than what they did last week. This is what big brother is about, changing things ever so slightly and watching the HMs' responses. Even the doubt and paranoia on the forum must be enough to show that that is half of the fun of what BB did. Even on the website it said "Be careful what you wish for" This will drive them mental, wondering if who they say they will vote they really will and wondering about the coming weeks and if who they said they would nominate doesn't go - they can figure out now who will vote what way and try to work the game in their favour. I think this is the best thing BB has ever done.

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Originally posted by Videostar:

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Originally posted by Azure:

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Originally posted by Videostar:
As Sophie's noms talk seems to have resulted in open influencing of nominations.

This is heaven for Lisa.

VS stop with twisting the truth,
BB have said this open nom talk is to do with Mucus, Smugwit and Simplvash breaking rules.

But what about the main rule breaker in Sophie?

there were a few broke the rule according to BB, last week Mucus and Simplvash broke rules and the house was put up to save that pair, this week it looks as tho it wouldnt work as another BB fave may go so they have been given free rein

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Originally posted by spongebob squarepants:

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Originally posted by Videostar:
Freddie has never influenced anyone to nominate anyone, if he was sat near Bea when she was rabbiting on about nominations thats hardly his fault.

except he clearly said to bea.....'roddy sees through dave.....you should talk to roddy'......after both he and bea had sat discussing in a none to clever way about putting dave up for eviction...discussing between them how marcus and siavash would see it their way......bea then said....'but that's not enough who think our way'.....freddie then told her to speak to rodrigo....

It was clear to us what was being done....Follows it was clear to BB.

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Originally posted by ~LEE~:

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Originally posted by spongebob squarepants:

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Originally posted by Videostar:
Freddie has never influenced anyone to nominate anyone, if he was sat near Bea when she was rabbiting on about nominations thats hardly his fault.

except he clearly said to bea.....'roddy sees through dave.....you should talk to roddy'......after both he and bea had sat discussing in a none to clever way about putting dave up for eviction...discussing between them how marcus and siavash would see it their way......bea then said....'but that's not enough who think our way'.....freddie then told her to speak to rodrigo....

It was clear to us what was being done....Follows it was clear to BB.

So Sophie's clear rule break is to be ignored totally then.?

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So Sophie's clear rule break is to be ignored totally then.?

Sophie wanted them to nominate her....Freddie and Bea were plotting against Dave....If you can't see the difference I do despair....One was being an eeegit...the others were being devious and calculating....If it had been Sophie plotting against Freddie you know for sure you'd be fit to be tied...Again.

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Originally posted by Videostar:


So Sophie's clear rule break is to be ignored totally then.?

Sophie wanted them to nominate her....Freddie and Bea were plotting against Dave....If you can't see the difference I do despair....One was being an eeegit...the others were being devious and calculating....If it had been Sophie plotting against Freddie you know for sure you'd be fit to be tied...Again.

BUT Sophie broke the same rule Marcus did last week, and Im sure you weren't defending him.