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Originally posted by Marguerita:

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Originally posted by tupps:
IF... and it's a big if because we don't know what happened.. I had said that losing the house food because of the jail break was out of order and I was shocked/concerned/pissed/whatever that there was barely an acknowledgement by way of an apology.. and I was greeted by Freddie's 'c'mon dude.. like you're so negative.. like it's ok it's all just fun.. blah blah blah'.. then I'd have given him both barrels.. friend or not. Another week of lentils, without even a cursory hint of remorse, would probably have had me doing violence.

It's a good job I'm not in there Marge.. All those weeks of him hmm'ing and dude'ing and am-dram nonsense.. they'd have to change all the cutlery for plastic.

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Originally posted by evviva!:

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Originally posted by tupps:
Well.. it may be justified or it may not.. the point is we don't know do we. Without the benefit of seeing the preceding argument, how could we.

Fair & logical point, tuppsy. Maybe we should just wait and see

But I'm gonna stick my neck out here and say I'll bet whatever it was that pillock, Halfwit, did it didn't merit that cow's protracted peevish nagging at him for so long.

The only thing that would justify that kind censure is if Halfwit had commited a murderous act!

If he'd come into bed next to me.. hmmm'ing and dude'ing.. when I was pee'd off with him.. then I would have dispensed with the verbal ripping of a new one and probably gone straight to pillow over face.

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Originally posted by tupps:
Thank you cologne.. is that off the C4 website?

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Originally posted by Baz:

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Marguerita:

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Originally posted by tupps:
IF... and it's a big if because we don't know what happened.. I had said that losing the house food because of the jail break was out of order and I was shocked/concerned/pissed/whatever that there was barely an acknowledgement by way of an apology.. and I was greeted by Freddie's 'c'mon dude.. like you're so negative.. like it's ok it's all just fun.. blah blah blah'.. then I'd have given him both barrels.. friend or not. Another week of lentils, without even a cursory hint of remorse, would probably have had me doing violence.

It's a good job I'm not in there Marge.. All those weeks of him hmm'ing and dude'ing and am-dram nonsense.. they'd have to change all the cutlery for plastic.

Me too Tupps

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Originally posted by evviva!:
Now that would be a perfectly reasonable way to shut him up. Over and done with in less than a minute. Smother - roll over - go back to sleep. Simples

No matter what he did, the solution was NOT to bleat on and on and on and on, saying you don't want to talk about it, bleat on and on some more, saying you don't want your "sleep pattern disturbed", bleat on and on about sodding NEGATIVITY (God, I hate her voice SO much when she says "NEG-AT-IVI-TY" ), then - guess what? - even more bleating.....etc etc.....

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Originally posted by tupps:
Thank you cologne.. is that off the C4 website?

I got it from DS, but yea, it's from THAT site.

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Thank you cologne.. is that off the C4 website?

I got it from DS, but yea, it's from THAT site.

Thanks, Col.

Just as I suspected. She worked herself up into a fully-blown self-righteous epi over nothing And, as usual, she made the situation even worse with her Am Dram antics.

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Originally posted by cologne1:

It seems to me that Freddie said nothing that a lot on here have said about her in the past. His nether region unfortunately took some time to give way to his brain. Saying that, he appears to be doing the rounds this morning apologising to people.

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Originally posted by tupps:
Thanks cologne..

See... I agree with Bea's comments about Freddie. I don't dislike him but he is a self indulgent bugger and he does like the whole kitchen sink drama.

The piece cologne has C&P'd says Halfwit and Bea had a heated debate. It started as a discussion on Bea's ‘negativity'. That'd depend on what was said, by who and how it came across.. but if it was negative and designed to pull apart someone then I wouldn't be surprised if they gave him some of that back.

I don't hold out much hope of seeing an unabridged version on HLs.

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Baggy and tubbs, I cannot go to the dark side, so I have to defend Freddie. I think he would get on my nerves if I was cooped up with him, but I still think he is one of the most genuine in there. I have a feeling if the antipathy hadn't been so sustained in the first weeks, this whole thing would have panned out totally different and Freddie wouldn't now stand accused of game playing. I always felt he just wanted to wander through this period with a smile and a song, but, unfortunately, he was forced to become reactionary, which I don't really think is his nature.

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Originally posted by cologne1:
Baggy and tubbs, I cannot go to the dark side, so I have to defend Freddie. I think he would get on my nerves if I was cooped up with him, but I still think he is one of the most genuine in there. I have a feeling if the antipathy hadn't been so sustained in the first weeks, this whole thing would have panned out totally different and Freddie wouldn't now stand accused of game playing. I always felt he just wanted to wander through this period with a smile and a song, but, unfortunately, he was forced to become reactionary, which I don't really think is his nature.

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Originally posted by cologne1:
Baggy and tubbs, I cannot go to the dark side, so I have to defend Freddie. I think he would get on my nerves if I was cooped up with him, but I still think he is one of the most genuine in there. I have a feeling if the antipathy hadn't been so sustained in the first weeks, this whole thing would have panned out totally different and Freddie wouldn't now stand accused of game playing. I always felt he just wanted to wander through this period with a smile and a song, but, unfortunately, he was forced to become reactionary, which I don't really think is his nature.

Ah Cologne, that's your preorgative of course

I didn't like seeing him being ostracised in the early weeks, but I never really warmed to him. And all his accompanying sound effects drive me nuts ESPECIALLY the "singing"!

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She has never considered anyone a friend in there...she'd sell her own grandmother if there was something in it for her.

True, but on the surface she did give Freddie the impression she was his friend even though we could see differently

She did that from the night she went in though....but in fairness if he was stupid enough to think someone he'd only just met was his 'friend' then more fool him.

I was surprised that he didn't put two and two together, she had seen how popular/unpopular the housemates were and she homed in on him straight away, as a man who had survived 5 evictions I think by that point he might have wanted to wonder why

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team smug turn on bea and drive her into lisa's arms!

bunch numpties!

Nope, Bea turned on her own group and drove herself into Lisa's arms.

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Sadly that's true. I think she put the final nail in her own coffin last night though

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team smug turn on bea and drive her into lisa's arms!

bunch numpties!

Nope, Bea turned on her own group and drove herself into Lisa's arms.

She has betrayed Freddy in the worse possible way.

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Yup, but that was the strongest point in her psycologist's game plan. Go all out to destroy the favourite. When she feels she's succeeded in that, she'll start on the other favourite, Siavash.

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Yup, but that was the strongest point in her psycologist's game plan. Go all out to destroy the favourite. When she feels she's succeeded in that, she'll start on the other favourite, Siavash.

Thing is though, that in the process she is destroying herself with the public. She could've won or at least be in the final, up to a couple of weeks ago. The public have now seen her for what she is - thank goodness.

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But it's up to the housemates to nominate her and she is working the groups to avoid nomination. She forgets that BB can scheme as well and put them all up for eviction or saving.

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Treacherous is a word I would apply to Bea, and it is a word I used in the live feed discussion last night about her because it sums her up totally.

Of course, like everyone else, I did not see what led up to the row we witnessed and Bea's subsequent outrageous indignation at the audacity of Freddie to tell her she was negative. But we can surely make a connection with her indignation last night and her indignation in all her other rows in the house. Yes, there have been many: Lisa, David, Charlie, etc., and all in the space of three short weeks too. I really don't need to see the preliminaries, I can make an easy connection knowing her history for histronics.

She tore Freddie to pieces last night with her venomous tongue, her self-righteous self-centred self-indulgent prima donna tongue. And, by doing so, she has signed her own eviction warrant like so many before her who have also thought that Freddie was an easy target. He is not. He now has the public on his side again, which is self-defeating Bea at her very worst. Silly snobby jealous little mare Bea, who is the one who has the biggest problem with Freddie's Oxford degree.

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team smug turn on bea and drive her into lisa's arms!

bunch numpties!

Nope, Bea turned on her group and drove herself into Lisa's arms.

marcus harried and hounded her for looking surprised that he had hidden some fags, and wouldn't let up, he drove her to extreme measures.

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Treacherous is a word I would apply to Bea, and it is a word I used in the live feed discussion last night about her because it sums her up totally.

Of course, like everyone else, I did not see what led up to the row we witnessed and Bea's subsequent outrageous indignation at the audacity of Freddie to tell her she was negative. But we can surely make a connection with her indignation last night and her indignation in all her other rows in the house. Yes, there have been many: Lisa, David, Charlie, etc., and all in the space of three short weeks too. I really don't need to see the preliminaries, I can make an easy connection knowing her history for histronics.

She tore Freddie to pieces last night with her venomous tongue, her self-righteous self-centred self-indulgent prima donna tongue. And, by doing so, she has signed her own eviction warrant like so many before her who have also thought that Freddie was an easy target. He is not. He now has the public on his side again, which is self-defeating Bea at her very worst. Silly snobby jealous little mare Bea, who is the one who has the biggest problem with Freddie's Oxford degree.

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She tore Freddie to pieces last night with her venomous tongue, her self-righteous self-centred self-indulgent prima donna tongue.

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It was tactics.
She decided to find escape from niminations in the Lisa, David, Charlie group. It was easy for her to work out the numbers.
It was a survival tactic.
And such a bad one!
Bea`s performance was diabolical. Talk about over the top. The tirade was endless. On and on and on like a dog with a bone. Overacting something rotten!
"Deeply, deeply, deeply upset" she said for the umpteenth time.
This trivial issue did not merit this sad performance by any stretch of the imagination.
Heaven help us if she gets genuinely upset about something.
So put on and unconvincing.
Seconds later she joined Lurking Charlie, Sorceress Lisa and Camp David.
I suspect she was aiming to get herself safe and bring down Freddie at the same time.
Apart from see-through Charlie, this was one of the most transparent performances this year.

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She tore Freddie to pieces last night with her venomous tongue, her self-righteous self-centred self-indulgent prima donna tongue.

Wonderful post Twee
She did tear him to bits and try to sell him out to curry favour with dominant 'Team Lisa'. However, if she thinks that she'll be accepted into Lisa's collusion club, I think she may be mistaken