I see it exactly as you do erin.

You've kind of summed up how I feel Erin. I still like Freddie, but I feel let down by him. I hope he pulls himself together forget about hateful witch Bea, and get back to being the kind hearted soul I like.

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Originally posted by erinp:
I havn't forgot how Lisa ans Co treated Freddie,but Freddie lost credibility tonight ,he reduced himself to her level,so they are both even now ,Freddie if anything may just have saved Lisa.I really hope he can turn it around,but I doubt it as long as Bea is in the house.

I agree with some of your points but I'm snot sure that I can entirely blame Bea (the b.t.h) for influencing Freddie as there comes a time when everyone is responsible for their own actions.

i dont feel sorry one bit for Lisa she has picked on people for 9 weeks and now its coming back round Karmas a bitch aint it Lisa .

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Originally posted by watcher1:

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Originally posted by erinp:
I havn't forgot how Lisa ans Co treated Freddie,but Freddie lost credibility tonight ,he reduced himself to her level,so they are both even now ,Freddie if anything may just have saved Lisa.I really hope he can turn it around,but I doubt it as long as Bea is in the house.

I agree with some of your points but I'm snot sure that I can entirely blame Bea (the b.t.h) for influencing Freddie as there comes a time when everyone is responsible for their own actions.

In agree....It would be like a child doing wrong and rather than address the issue blaming others

Feel let down by Freddie

I don`t feel sorry for her at all. She can give it out but can`t take it.

I`ll never forget what she did to Freddie..never.

i just think freddie needed to vent
revenge is a sweet thing sometimes
but people are so fickle and dont remember just how nasty lisa was to freddie at the beggining

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Originally posted by watcher1:

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Originally posted by erinp:
I havn't forgot how Lisa ans Co treated Freddie,but Freddie lost credibility tonight ,he reduced himself to her level,so they are both even now ,Freddie if anything may just have saved Lisa.I really hope he can turn it around,but I doubt it as long as Bea is in the house.

I agree with some of your points but I'm snot sure that I can entirely blame Bea (the b.t.h) for influencing Freddie as there comes a time when everyone is responsible for their own actions.

i do blame Bea ,a big give away was when Freddie mocked the way David speaks ,that is so Bea.

I`m not disappointed in Freddie. I thought he was great tonight.
Lisa remains as nasty as ever.

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Originally posted by Scotty:
I don`t feel sorry for her at all. She can give it out but can`t take it.

I`ll never forget what she did to Freddie..never.

thats the truth she cant take it but she dishes it out

Nobody deserves to be taunted and ridiculed like that.. Thats why I supported Freddie in the beginning but he stooped down to the gutter tonight... He also thinks he has it in the bag, I can only imagine how pissed off the housemates are about his pathetic glorification of himself .....

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Originally posted by Scotty:
I don`t feel sorry for her at all. She can give it out but can`t take it.

I`ll never forget what she did to Freddie..never.

the thread says I dont feel sorry for Lisa !

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Originally posted by erinp:

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Originally posted by watcher1:

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Originally posted by erinp:
I havn't forgot how Lisa ans Co treated Freddie,but Freddie lost credibility tonight ,he reduced himself to her level,so they are both even now ,Freddie if anything may just have saved Lisa.I really hope he can turn it around,but I doubt it as long as Bea is in the house.

I agree with some of your points but I'm snot sure that I can entirely blame Bea (the b.t.h) for influencing Freddie as there comes a time when everyone is responsible for their own actions.

i do blame Bea ,a big give away was when Freddie mocked the way David speaks ,that is so Bea.

Yep, mocked his speech. Nasty little deviant.

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Originally posted by erinp:

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Originally posted by Scotty:
I don`t feel sorry for her at all either. She can give it out but can`t take it.

I`ll never forget what she did to Freddie..never.

the thread says I dont feel sorry for Lisa !

Ooops..edit.

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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
You've kind of summed up how I feel Erin. I still like Freddie, but I feel let down by him. I hope he pulls himself together forget about hateful witch Bea, and get back to being the kind hearted soul I like.

Bea did not make him say or do anything Senora she just brought out his true colours I started to see them before Bea went into the house I really was in the minority then, if Lisa who I have never liked or Dave goes Friday all I can see happening is Freddie getting more smug he has done himself no favours

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Originally posted by Marguerita:

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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
You've kind of summed up how I feel Erin. I still like Freddie, but I feel let down by him. I hope he pulls himself together forget about hateful witch Bea, and get back to being the kind hearted soul I like.

Bea did not make him say or do anything Senora she just brought out his true colours I started to see them before Bea went into the house I really was in the minority then ,if Lisa who I have never liked or Dave goes Friday all I can see happening is Freddie getting more smug he has done himself no favours

when he mocked the way David speaks it was so Bea's influence.the rest was his own doing ,the "I'm coming I'm coming" made me want to heave

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Originally posted by erinp:

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Originally posted by Marguerita:

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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
You've kind of summed up how I feel Erin. I still like Freddie, but I feel let down by him. I hope he pulls himself together forget about hateful witch Bea, and get back to being the kind hearted soul I like.

Bea did not make him say or do anything Senora she just brought out his true colours I started to see them before Bea went into the house I really was in the minority then ,if Lisa who I have never liked or Dave goes Friday all I can see happening is Freddie getting more smug he has done himself no favours

when he mocked the way David speaks it was so Bea's influence.the rest was his own doing ,the "I'm coming I'm coming" made me want to heave

Everything he does is associated with orgasmic behaviour really strange

I wasn't disappointed with Freddie at all, he was simply acting and speaking in language that falls within Lisa's limited range of comprehension. I hope he enjoyed every single second of it too after more than the TWO MONTHS of sheer torture she delighted in putting him through.

i wouldnt say freddie is smug ...... just getting his own back on lisa who has made it crystal clear she wanted him out from day 1 and was gobsmacked that he was'nt ( ie... kris is in secret house ) she is cacking it and rightly so

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Originally posted by Joods:
I wasn't disappointed with Freddie at all, he was simply acting and speaking in language that falls within Lisa's limited range of comprehension. I hope he enjoyed every single second of it too after more than the TWO MONTHS of sheer torture she delighted in putting him through.

Well said Joods.

Freddie has been influenced heavily by Bea and Marcus who IMO, revel in other poeple's misery, I don't think at heart Freddie is like that, I get the impression that a lot of what he did tonight, was to impress Bea, as he's fallen for her victimisation crap regarding Dave and Lisa...

Her ego will not allow that other HM's might not like her, it suits her ego to say "It's a conspiracy".

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Originally posted by erinp:
I havn't forgot how Lisa ans Co treated Freddie,but Freddie lost credibility tonight ,he reduced himself to her level,so they are both even now ,Freddie if anything may just have saved Lisa.I really hope he can turn it around,but I doubt it as long as Bea is in the house.

I agree, he lost a lot of credibility tonight and behaved more like a bullying, spoilt brat. What I found most distasteful about it was, he would not let it rest, but kept following Dave to keep the arguing going, when Dave tried to take himself away from the situation.

Can A Freddie fan explain his "I'm coming" retort?

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Originally posted by paace:

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Originally posted by erinp:
I havn't forgot how Lisa ans Co treated Freddie,but Freddie lost credibility tonight ,he reduced himself to her level,so they are both even now ,Freddie if anything may just have saved Lisa.I really hope he can turn it around,but I doubt it as long as Bea is in the house.

I agree, he lost a lot of credibility tonight and behaved more like a bullying, spoilt brat. What I found most distasteful about it was, he would not let it rest, but kept following Dave to keep the arguing going, when Dave tried to take himself away from the situation.

I agree he followed, taunted and ridiculed him.... How soon he has forgotten what happened in the beginning to him... The only reason why people supported him was because he was a victim now he is using that to victimise poor David

POOR DAVID ????????????

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Originally posted by carotino:
Can A Freddie fan explain his "I'm coming" retort?

I honestly don't know what I would do if I was arguing with a guy who then started to hum and say "I'm coming" "I'm coming".

Whether you think Lisa deserved Freddies taunting tonight or not, you can hardly think David deserved what happened!

OMG I was so annoyed by Freddie marcus's and Bea's behavior.. not acceptable.

And David showed he is a better man then Marcus by apologising for mishearing him... omg what a horrible mess...

Still want Saivash to win!!

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Originally posted by Mollie:
Whether you think Lisa deserved Freddies taunting tonight or not, you can hardly think David deserved what happened!

OMG I was so annoyed by Freddie marcus's and Bea's behavior.. not acceptable.

And David showed he is a better man then Marcus by apologising for mishearing him... omg what a horrible mess...

Still want Saivash to win!!

I feel like I`ve been watching a different show!

Freddie done well. She's a nasty piece of work who has made his life hell from day one.

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Originally posted by brisket:
I feel like I`ve been watching a different show!

It is funny Brisket how we all have different views and takes of what happened

Live feed we need all the facts

Some people think freddie was right and some think he was wrong

Yes he suffered at the hands of Lisa no doubt who could defend her on that

But over the last few weeks and tonights climax he has done himself no favours imo and the sad thing is its all started when Bea went in and she couldnt care less about him which makes it worse.