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Originally posted by lainy m:


This may very well be Freddies downfall, Bea is already down there and Marcus has surprised me there Shake Head


Why has Marcus surprised you? He's been a woman's puppet since he entered the house.....no change there then Roll Eyes

Freddy should be ashamed of himself, I've slagged him off for many things. but always thought he had a kind heart...looks like I was wrong Frowner
DanceSettee
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Originally posted by spongebob squarepants:
freddie looked like a 3 year old child with his fake laughing.......

he's quickly forgotten that hardly anyone would go near him in the first few weeks....what did he get once 9 nominations?????

now he's swapped his individual personality to become a pack member......egged on by his master bea.....

the bloke is a tool.....


He has indeed become a pack member, Im glad Lisa stepped in when she did.
lainy m
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
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Originally posted by lainy m:
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Originally posted by cup:
Its disgusting the three of them i am surprised at freddie having been on the end of this bullying himself,and marcus i didnt think it was his form

Frowner

bea yes she enjoys it what a lovely girl



How soon he forgets Roll Eyes
Indeed Shake Head The attacked has become the attacker.....


That's how you survive, you want Freddie and Co just to lie down and be picked off one by one?
Free Thinking
If Lisa stays on Friday her and David will be plotting to probably nominate Freddie and co anyway all they have to do is convince Sophie, Charlie and Rodrigo which isn't hard. I personally don't think David has a gameplan so I think Freddie is wrong on that one but it's his opinion, but I liked the laughing at Lisa as i'm still seething about her nastiness at the start.
darloboy (Play The Game!)
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
David is just Lisa's lapdog, they are right. I much prefer ther articulates as they are actually worth listening to. And they noticed that Lisa and Co have obviously co-ordinated their efforts against Marcus and Bea.


Yep yep.. just because she has been quiet for a bit and had her little powerbase dented doesn't mean she's suddenly become Saint Lisa of Borehamwood. She's back and David is her lil soldier.
tupps
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Originally posted by lainy m:
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Originally posted by spongebob squarepants:
freddie looked like a 3 year old child with his fake laughing.......

he's quickly forgotten that hardly anyone would go near him in the first few weeks....what did he get once 9 nominations?????

now he's swapped his individual personality to become a pack member......egged on by his master bea.....

the bloke is a tool.....


He has indeed become a pack member, Im glad Lisa stepped in when she did.
Im glad too they were all attacking him...
prettycocoaeyes
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
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Originally posted by lainy m:
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Originally posted by cup:
Its disgusting the three of them i am surprised at freddie having been on the end of this bullying himself,and marcus i didnt think it was his form

Frowner

bea yes she enjoys it what a lovely girl



How soon he forgets Roll Eyes
Indeed Shake Head The attacked has become the attacker.....


That's how you survive, you want Freddie and Co just to lie down and be picked off one by one?
No but Freddie knows how terrible he felt when he was attacked yet he has joined his puppylove and Marcus in attacking David because they know he is weaker intellectually....
prettycocoaeyes
I don't know how anyone can watch the video of the row in the kitchen and not see it for what it was. Taking the David row out of the equation for a minute, and focusing on just Freddie, it is a study in revenge being a dish best served cold. For weeks Freddie was subjected to some of the worst bullying ever seen on BB. Lisa was the spearhead of the bullying and Freddie knows that. To actually be able to repay her for that horrible time, and laugh in her face, was payback time come with cherries on top.

Being articulate is nothing to do with it as far as the row was concerned. The one who wins an argument is the one who keeps their voice calm and controlled, articulate or not. Freddie made the mistake of laughing after his calm controlled outburst, but he enjoyed it so much. And who can blame him?
Twee Surgeon
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
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Originally posted by lainy m:
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Originally posted by cup:
Its disgusting the three of them i am surprised at freddie having been on the end of this bullying himself,and marcus i didnt think it was his form

Frowner

bea yes she enjoys it what a lovely girl



How soon he forgets Roll Eyes
Indeed Shake Head The attacked has become the attacker.....


That's how you survive, you want Freddie and Co just to lie down and be picked off one by one?
No but Freddie knows how terrible he felt when he was attacked yet he has joined his puppylove and Marcus in attacking David because they know he is weaker intellectually....


David is in the larger group, he is not isolated like Freddie was. I don't know why people are even trying to pretend it's similar.
Free Thinking
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
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Originally posted by lainy m:
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Originally posted by cup:
Its disgusting the three of them i am surprised at freddie having been on the end of this bullying himself,and marcus i didnt think it was his form

Frowner

bea yes she enjoys it what a lovely girl



How soon he forgets Roll Eyes
Indeed Shake Head The attacked has become the attacker.....


That's how you survive, you want Freddie and Co just to lie down and be picked off one by one?
No but Freddie knows how terrible he felt when he was attacked yet he has joined his puppylove and Marcus in attacking David because they know he is weaker intellectually....


David is in the larger group, he is not isolated like Freddie was. I don't know why people are even trying to pretend it's similar.
Its the same thing IMO... They went for him like a group of dogs to a bone.... Thank God Lisa stepped in... Freddie has really forgotten what its like to be bullyed why pick on David... He should attack Lisa not David..
prettycocoaeyes
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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
I don't know how anyone can watch the video of the row in the kitchen and not see it for what it was. Taking the David row out of the equation for a minute, and focusing on just Freddie, it is a study in revenge being a dish best served cold. For weeks Freddie was subjected to some of the worst bullying ever seen on BB. Lisa was the spearhead of the bullying and Freddie knows that. To actually be able to repay her for that horrible time, and laugh in her face, was payback time come with cherries on top.

Being articulate is nothing to do with it as far as the row was concerned. The one who wins an argument is the one who keeps their voice calm and controlled, articulate or not. Freddie made the mistake of laughing after his calm controlled outburst, but he enjoyed it so much. And who can blame him?


I thought that too, with regard to his laughing at Lisa, this moment for Freddie has been long-overdue.
Lion
I can't stand David and think he's capable of far worse bitching with Lisa, but there is a danger here of the sympathy vote switching to him ... It can be construed as bullying and ganging-up and unfortunately Freddie is coming out of it looking bad because he was bullied so relentlessly at the beginning that people wonder why he's joining in the pack mentality ...

I agree with TS about Freddie finally getting his revenge on Lisa, but I think that's going to be lost on a lot of people who see it as 'the articulates' bullying David ...
Shar
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
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Originally posted by lainy m:
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Originally posted by cup:
Its disgusting the three of them i am surprised at freddie having been on the end of this bullying himself,and marcus i didnt think it was his form

Frowner

bea yes she enjoys it what a lovely girl



How soon he forgets Roll Eyes
Indeed Shake Head The attacked has become the attacker.....


That's how you survive, you want Freddie and Co just to lie down and be picked off one by one?
No but Freddie knows how terrible he felt when he was attacked yet he has joined his puppylove and Marcus in attacking David because they know he is weaker intellectually....


David is in the larger group, he is not isolated like Freddie was. I don't know why people are even trying to pretend it's similar.
Its the same thing IMO... They went for him like a group of dogs to a bone.... Thank God Lisa stepped in... Freddie has really forgotten what its like to be bullyed why pick on David... He should attack Lisa not David..


You haven't answered my point. This was after nominations in which it was revealed that David (particularly after the Siavash fool opted out) is in the larger group in the house. That means he isn't isolated at all, unlike Freddie. Has David got anywhere near the nominations Freddie did? You are trying to create a comparison where none even exists, partly by lapping up the biased news stories on the CH4 site.
Free Thinking
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Originally posted by Shar:
I can't stand David and think he's capable of far worse bitching with Lisa, but there is a danger here of the sympathy vote switching to him ... It can be construed as bullying and ganging-up and unfortunately Freddie is coming out of it looking bad because he was bullied so relentlessly at the beginning that people wonder why he's joining in the pack mentality ...

I agree with TS about Freddie finally getting his revenge on Lisa, but I think that's going to be lost on a lot of people who see it as 'the articulates' bullying David ...


You're absolutely right.
Lion
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Originally posted by Lion:
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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
I don't know how anyone can watch the video of the row in the kitchen and not see it for what it was. Taking the David row out of the equation for a minute, and focusing on just Freddie, it is a study in revenge being a dish best served cold. For weeks Freddie was subjected to some of the worst bullying ever seen on BB. Lisa was the spearhead of the bullying and Freddie knows that. To actually be able to repay her for that horrible time, and laugh in her face, was payback time come with cherries on top.

Being articulate is nothing to do with it as far as the row was concerned. The one who wins an argument is the one who keeps their voice calm and controlled, articulate or not. Freddie made the mistake of laughing after his calm controlled outburst, but he enjoyed it so much. And who can blame him?


I thought that too, with regard to his laughing at Lisa, this moment for Freddie has been long-overdue.


hi Lion .. It has also got to be remembered that Freddie is very loyal to his friends, as evidenced by his support of Siavash during Bunnygate. At the time of the bullying, Freddie had no one to support him. Marcus and Siavash gave him token support then, but as their friendship developed Freddie realised that they may actually be trustworthy. He is now supporting the people he considers friends, and if that means that he is in the vicinity of his friends when they are being attacked, he will do the same as he did at Bunnygate and defend them. The added frisson for Freddie today was the opportunity to pay Lisa back in style for her nasty bullying in the early days.
Twee Surgeon

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