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Originally posted by fabienne:
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Originally posted by captain marbles:
Darwinian but not much of a Dawkinsian.


Dawkins thinks he's the reincarnation of Darwin. I don't mind him, though - at least he's passionate about his subject.
He's a very fine writer and communicator but I disagree with some of the conclusions he reaches.
captain marbles
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Originally posted by captain marbles:
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Originally posted by fabienne:
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Originally posted by captain marbles:
Darwinian but not much of a Dawkinsian.


Dawkins thinks he's the reincarnation of Darwin. I don't mind him, though - at least he's passionate about his subject.
He's a very fine writer and communicator but I disagree with some of the conclusions he reaches.


Can you possibly put some of them in a nutshell captain?
lainy m
Err....I'll give it a try lany. The main area where I depart from his thinking is that he seems to believe in the directionality of genetic development so everything moves from lesser to greater complexity. This also implies that genes themselves are moving in the direction of perfectabilty.
In other words he believes that evolution is moving in a progressive direction. I believe that there is no inherent direction to evolution and natural selection acts purely in response to the environment in which the organism finds itself.
captain marbles
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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
Not really a question we should still be asking in the twenty first century Roll Eyes

Bible - fairy tale

Evolution - credible theory with lots of evidence to back it up


......however there are still those who believe the Adam and Eve theory. I wonder what percentage of the population believe either theory?
lainy m
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Originally posted by captain marbles:
Err....I'll give it a try lany. The main area where I depart from his thinking is that he seems to believe in the directionality of genetic development so everything moves from lesser to greater complexity. This also implies that genes themselves are moving in the direction of perfectabilty.


Greater complexity does not equate with being "perfect", whatever that is

...not sure what you mean here captain Confused...where does that idea come from, never heard it before Smiler
DanceSettee
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Originally posted by captain marbles:
Err....I'll give it a try lany. The main area where I depart from his thinking is that he seems to believe in the directionality of genetic development so everything moves from lesser to greater complexity. This also implies that genes themselves are moving in the direction of perfectabilty.
In other words he believes that evolution is moving in a progressive direction. I believe that there is no inherent direction to evolution and natural selection acts purely in response to the environment in which the organism finds itself.


So Darwins survival of the fittest theory sits well here too, would you say that natural selection is a result of the survival of the fittest organism within any given environment?
lainy m
Darwinian's are the dumest fks on earth, darwin worked out evolution and the followers haven't yet moved on one lickerty split, dumass fkrs. chit even dumb fks like me ave sussed the meaning of existance, yet those fks use darwins findings to justify cut backs on spending, as i keep saying, dumb ass fks espech that twat who keeps appearin on tv chattin crap,
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Originally posted by Paradice:
Darwinian's are the dumest fks on earth, darwin worked out evolution and the followers haven't yet moved on one lickerty split, dumass fkrs. chit even dumb fks like me ave sussed the meaning of, yet those fks use darwins findings to justify cut backs on spending, as i keep saying, dumb ass fks espech that twat who keeps appearin on tv chattin crap,
srry for the rant but Darwinian's are my pet hate
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Originally posted by Paradice:
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Originally posted by Paradice:
Darwinian's are the dumest fks on earth, darwin worked out evolution and the followers haven't yet moved on one lickerty split, dumass fkrs. chit even dumb fks like me ave sussed the meaning of, yet those fks use darwins findings to justify cut backs on spending, as i keep saying, dumb ass fks espech that twat who keeps appearin on tv chattin crap,
srry for the rant but Darwinian's are my pet hate


Given your well thought out comeback to it, I imagine Richard Dawkins is shitting it Laugh Laugh Laugh
DanceSettee
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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
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Originally posted by CaptVimes:
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Originally posted by lainy m:
Who wrote the Bible anyways?
Constantine decided what was to go in it. As to who wrote the parts, many people. Some attributed some not.


T'were Mills and Boon of it's time Thumbs Up
Nice bits of blood gore and sex in places but predictable ending though.
CaptVimes
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Originally posted by lainy m:
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Originally posted by captain marbles:
Err....I'll give it a try lany. The main area where I depart from his thinking is that he seems to believe in the directionality of genetic development so everything moves from lesser to greater complexity. This also implies that genes themselves are moving in the direction of perfectabilty.
In other words he believes that evolution is moving in a progressive direction. I believe that there is no inherent direction to evolution and natural selection acts purely in response to the environment in which the organism finds itself.


So Darwins survival of the fittest theory sits well here too, would you say that natural selection is a result of the survival of the fittest organism within any given environment?
In a word yes. Big Grin
captain marbles
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Originally posted by captain marbles:
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Originally posted by lainy m:
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Originally posted by captain marbles:
Err....I'll give it a try lany. The main area where I depart from his thinking is that he seems to believe in the directionality of genetic development so everything moves from lesser to greater complexity. This also implies that genes themselves are moving in the direction of perfectabilty.
In other words he believes that evolution is moving in a progressive direction. I believe that there is no inherent direction to evolution and natural selection acts purely in response to the environment in which the organism finds itself.


So Darwins survival of the fittest theory sits well here too, would you say that natural selection is a result of the survival of the fittest organism within any given environment?
In a word yes. Big Grin


Gosh captain you are very knowledgable on this subject, to what extent have you studied it and why are you 3 feet away from the bird bath? Ninja
lainy m
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Originally posted by lainy m:
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Originally posted by captain marbles:
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Originally posted by lainy m:
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Originally posted by captain marbles:
Err....I'll give it a try lany. The main area where I depart from his thinking is that he seems to believe in the directionality of genetic development so everything moves from lesser to greater complexity. This also implies that genes themselves are moving in the direction of perfectabilty.
In other words he believes that evolution is moving in a progressive direction. I believe that there is no inherent direction to evolution and natural selection acts purely in response to the environment in which the organism finds itself.


So Darwins survival of the fittest theory sits well here too, would you say that natural selection is a result of the survival of the fittest organism within any given environment?
In a word yes. Big Grin


Gosh captain you are very knowledgable on this subject, to what extent have you studied it and why are you 3 feet away from the bird bath? Ninja
I haven't studied it in a formal sense at all. I just find it fascinating.
I've got a bird bath just out side the window where I've got the pc parked. It's nice to watch them having a splash about.
captain marbles
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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
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Originally posted by Paradice:
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Originally posted by Paradice:
Darwinian's are the dumest fks on earth, darwin worked out evolution and the followers haven't yet moved on one lickerty split, dumass fkrs. chit even dumb fks like me ave sussed the meaning of, yet those fks use darwins findings to justify cut backs on spending, as i keep saying, dumb ass fks espech that twat who keeps appearin on tv chattin crap,
srry for the rant but Darwinian's are my pet hate


Given your well thought out comeback to it, I imagine Richard Dawkins is shitting it Laugh Laugh Laugh
Actually i have done what the richard dawkins of this world have failed to do, understand the meaning of existance
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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
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Originally posted by Paradice:

Actually i have done what the richard dawkins of this world have failed to do, understand the meaning of existance


oooh do tell Big Grin

(unless it involves the words Jesus, Christ and Saviour of course Ninja)
you have buddhists who can never explain enlightenment, as you have to work it ou for yourself, and they're bang on, whatever i would say, unless you're trully that open minded you just would not get it, your rewponse is easy, i'm full of crap, fine, you could be right
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Originally posted by Paradice:
you have buddhists who can never explain enlightenment, as you have to work it ou for yourself, and they're bang on, whatever i would say, unless you're trully that open minded you just would not get it, your rewponse is easy, i'm full of crap, fine, you could be right


By your defensive response, I can only assume that you have seen an image of Thor in a Tunnock's teacake Wink
DanceSettee
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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Paradice:
you have buddhists who can never explain enlightenment, as you have to work it ou for yourself, and they're bang on, whatever i would say, unless you're trully that open minded you just would not get it, your rewponse is easy, i'm full of crap, fine, you could be right


By your defensive response, I can only assume that you have seen an image of Thor in a Tunnock's teacake Wink[/QUOTE

defensive why? look i have to go but if you're interested pm me tell me your thoughts n if i'm in a good mmod i may may respond, do me a favour don'y do mind games
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