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Originally posted by luxor:
This year in particular, we only see what the producers want us to see. The voting viewers are the ones that are being manipulated, not the housemates.
Marcus could be the most entertaining housemate ever between 8am and 11pm and we would not know,

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Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:
yeah I especially love the wrapped in a quilt looking glum and boring me to tears entertainment

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Originally posted by RZB:

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Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:
yeah I especially love the wrapped in a quilt looking glum and boring me to tears entertainment

He reminded me of a hot dog in a bread roll,
then Siavash joind in.

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:

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Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:
yeah I especially love the wrapped in a quilt looking glum and boring me to tears entertainment

I know, what was he thinking ? he should have been tucked up in bed along with the other dull HMs.

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
Alot of the HMs found Sree annoying, even those who said they were his friends (only that probably as they thought he would be popular on the outside). Alot of the teasing of Sree was actually instigated by Noirin, Marcus felt he was helping her out and that's when he started to get close to her.

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
No doubt one of the most entertaining this year. He keeps up late, is funny, makes some interesting (sometimes perceptive comments) and is also quite open with his feelings (unlike some boring ones in there). Lots for us to watch.

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Originally posted by Mollie:

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:

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Originally posted by Mollie:

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
No doubt one of the most entertaining this year. He keeps up late, is funny, makes some interesting (sometimes perceptive comments) and is also quite open with his feelings (unlike some boring ones in there). Lots for us to watch.

Don't agree, he is very underhanded, he is massively deluded, has a very sinister side to him.
I find him to have incredible double standards, for example, one of his reasons for nominating Noirin is because she was quick to judge hira! but he wasn't about Tom??? ..
He is constantly calling Noirin names saying she is stupid for what she says, does and thinks! whether he thinks that or not, why go to all the HM's saying that!
Tom was right, you don't taalk about your best friends like that and he was doing that when he proclaimed they were best friends.

All in all out of the two of them I find him far more offensive!

To call Marcus 'sinister' is just a ridiculous exaggeration. Even Bea says he is 'a big softie'.

Marcus has had to defend Noirin in the house, her behviour at times has been despicable. The only way to try and defend her properly is to try and acknowledge her faults as well. The only way to get her to act better in there is to try and get her to acknowledge her faults. Marcus has definitely been a friend. He has been loyal to her, that's why he considers Siavash's lack of loyalty to his girlfriend so bad. As for Tom...he was put in there to stir things up, Hira obviously wasn't. Two totally different situations.

Well if bea says it then I guess she must be right! by the way big softies can have a darker side, and he does!@!
Why did marcus take it upon himself to defend her?? she didn't need to be defended... are you talking about Sree? yes he was very nice about him wasn't he???
How was her behavior dispicable? she didn't want him to grope her?? yes again she is a bad bad girl for not falling for him!!

It was never HIS job to get HER to act a certain way, don't you see free thinking, they are all responsible for their own behavior, that includes Marcus!

Marcus was clinging on to a hope that she would eventually see sense and fall for him, he could not accept the truth, he resisted anything she said or did because he didn't like it... he was NEVER her friend, and to lie under that guise was worse then dispicable!!

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Originally posted by The Guru:

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
Alot of the HMs found Sree annoying, even those who said they were his friends (only that probably as they thought he would be popular on the outside). Alot of the teasing of Sree was actually instigated by Noirin, Marcus felt he was helping her out and that's when he started to get close to her.

You are kidding right? Marcus reacted the way he wanted to. He chose to react the way he did.

Sod all to do with Noirin.

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Originally posted by Reality Junkie:

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
No doubt one of the most entertaining this year. He keeps up late, is funny, makes some interesting (sometimes perceptive comments) and is also quite open with his feelings (unlike some boring ones in there). Lots for us to watch.

I agree with all that - then theres the controlling and groomng behaviours with Noirin that still, even now has her wary of his reactions, even though they werent bf/gf. I dont admire her, dont get me wrong. Ive certainly said enough against her on these forums. What I dont like in contrast is the way Marcus is now being lorded as some great guy when he clearly isnt. I've been touched by posts, possibly more on DS, where women have experienced the same kind of behavior from guys who told them what to think and how to behave as Marcus has Norin and I find that very disturbing. So no excuse for Marcus no matter how much you hate Norin, which is a very strong word anyway.

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
Well, in this 'new' version of BB, I think Marcus has been the only REAL person in there, the rest of them are just pale imitations of what they are actually like on the outside, they never ( or rarely ) let their guards down, they keep their BB heads firmly in place, and are more camera savvy than ANY previous BB HMs ( IMO )
with the exceptions of Sophie and Lisa of course, Sophie is so dim and naive she probably doesnt even know what a 'game plan' IS let alone have one,
Lisa? well we have all seen what SHE is like when her BB head slips, and its not nice, she is very used to conflict and LIKES it and quite probably usually wins when she is among her own, she has all the 'tactics' of the veteran bruiser, shout em down, get in their face, belittle them, call for suport and back up from those closest to her, she also realises that though this approach works well ( for HER ) outside the house, its not going to get her into the final, so there is a lot of ' toungue biting ' going on there,
the rest of them dont drop their guards so easily,
as for Charlie, i dont think I have ever seen a HM MORE determined to win or more convinced he is going to.
the look on his face when Tom said he thought Roddy would win, spoke volumes,
As for Marcus? well love him or hate him, I think he genuinely doesnt give a flying one about winning or what BB think or what WE think, and I also think that BB have a bit of a ' vendetta ' going with Marcus cause he shot them down in his brilliant DR rant, so I WONT be expecting much in the way of favourable editing of him from BB, either in the HL shows OR the ( not QUITE live ) 'live' feed. (cause THAT gets edited as well ya know? )

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:

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Originally posted by The Guru:

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
Alot of the HMs found Sree annoying, even those who said they were his friends (only that probably as they thought he would be popular on the outside). Alot of the teasing of Sree was actually instigated by Noirin, Marcus felt he was helping her out and that's when he started to get close to her.

You are kidding right? Marcus reacted the way he wanted to. He chose to react the way he did.

Sod all to do with Noirin.

I'm not kidding at all, Noirin used Marcus to get rid of Sree.

Marcus was Noirin's friend as he supported her when she was down (even if she didn't for him) and he also tried to get other HMs like Freddie and Siavash to understand and accept her.

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:


Marcus was Noirin's friend as he supported her when she was down (even if she didn't for him) and he also tried to get other HMs like Freddie and Siavash to understand and accept her.