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Originally posted by tupps:
Until recently I've kind of sympathised with Noirin's predicament regarding Marcus. What did it for me was when she started in on Siavash. Now, yes, I fully accept that Siavash has his responsibilities in this too.. but then we are talking about Noirin in this instance. It became apparent, for me, that she was essentially toying with people with no regard.

Like I've said in another thread, she started, continued and escalated things with Siavash:

knowing he had a girl (of some description, the jury is out on whether she was a GF and for how long) on the outside..
knowing she had an ex she was 'in lurve with' and who asked she didn't get up to any shannanigans in there..
knowing that she wouldn't touch Siavash with a shitty stick if she'd met him in a club on the outside..
knowing that she fancied Tom more and would '**** him every day' given the chance..
knowing that she fancied her ex more..
knowing that Siavash and Marcus had a friendship that would be damaged..
knowing that Siavash liked her.. alot.. enough to risk all he may have had on the outside..
knowing that.. as she herself said.. she shouldn't be doing what she did, because people would be hurt.. but then doing it anyway..

It is one thing to flirt and have fun.. quite another to, in her own words, be 'very manipulative' and go after what she wants and to hell with the consequences. It displays, to me, a lack of empathy and concern for the feelings of others. It also displays an amazing level of self absorption.

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Originally posted by Princess Gollum:
It's just the old hags that don't like her, pure jealousy. Probably all got covers on the legs of their pianos too.

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Originally posted by Princess Gollum:
It's just the old hags that don't like her, pure jealousy. Probably all got covers on the legs of their pianos too.

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Originally posted by Soozy woo:

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Originally posted by greenandpink:
She is a beautiful woman who gets a lot of attention, and she enjoys it. Good for her!!.

She is bright and has an opinion. Good for her!!.

She should have told Shree and Marcus in no uncertain terms that she didn't fancy them. That is the only thing I can think she could have done differently.

Noirin is not arrogant, or up herself, as far as I can see. She loves to be loved or liked. Nothing wrong with that.

I don't get what she has done wrong.

I pretty much agree with you but I'm getting exhausted penning my support against hefty (but misguided) opposition.

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Originally posted by darloboy07:

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Originally posted by greenandpink:

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Originally posted by darloboy07:
Not been impressed with some of her behaviour but still like her .

Lol!! another worthy Victim

What behaviour precisely though darloboy??

She's a flirt nothing wrong with that whatsoever my problem is that she leads the guys on, but the guys are enjoying it and there would probably be less criticism if it was the other way around. She's coming across as being a manipulative and she's playing with peoples feelings and emotions at times but all in all an interesting hosuemate

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by ali:

I dont think shes the big villain shes being portrayed as, but could handle the male attention in a more appropriate manner. Part of me believes she doesn't realize the effect she has on men, but should be aware of it by now

That's what I used to think..

I just thought she hadn't any real capacity to control her 'allure' and that she was perhaps a little naive. That she had this sexual power and really didn't know what to do with it or how to handle it.

Having seen a little more of her, I really don't think that's the case. She has a 'power' which she could choose to use for good or evil, responsibly or irresponsibly. She chooses the latter in both.

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knowing she had an ex she was 'in lurve with' and who asked she didn't get up to any shannanigans in there..

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Originally posted by Mentalist:

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knowing she had an ex she was 'in lurve with' and who asked she didn't get up to any shannanigans in there..

I agree with everything except this one, I don't think an ex has the right to ask you not to get up to anything, they are an ex after all.

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
I posted this in another thread:

I think she would have kept him (Marcus) in reserve, much like she did when Sree was in the house and she kept Marcus on the bench, so to speak.

She got everything from Sree that she wanted - an unrequited love story, a stalker, and airtime. When she felt the situation had run its course, she ran to Marcus to "save her" from the stalker Sree.

Then she played 'chase me, kiss me' with Marcus and once again she had the unrequited love story, a stalker and most importantly - AIRTIME. Marcus had run his course, and she moved onto Siavash, but Siavash wasn't what she expected, or needed. Siavash was actually concerned about Marcus' feelings, something that Noirin cares nothing about, so she moved onto Tom.

Now that Tom is gone, the big question is whether she will go back after Siavash, hoping to twist him around her finger, or move onto Freddie - or even Lisa.

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Originally posted by Mentalist:

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knowing she had an ex she was 'in lurve with' and who asked she didn't get up to any shannanigans in there..

I agree with everything except this one, I don't think an ex has the right to ask you not to get up to anything, they are an ex after all.

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Now that Tom is gone, the big question is whether she will go back after Siavash, hoping to twist him around her finger, or move onto Freddie - or even Lisa.

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:

Now that Tom is gone, the big question is whether she will go back after Siavash, hoping to twist him around her finger, or move onto Freddie - or even Lisa.

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Mentalist:

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knowing she had an ex she was 'in lurve with' and who asked she didn't get up to any shannanigans in there..

I agree with everything except this one, I don't think an ex has the right to ask you not to get up to anything, they are an ex after all.

No, he probably doesn't.. but then I don't know enough about their current relationship other than what Noirin has let slip. But then I'm not saying anything about the rights and wrongs of that.

The point being, she has all these cons on HER list, reasons why she says she shouldn't do what she is doing.. one being it'd cause some kind of trouble with a man she says she is still in love with.. and she does it anyway.

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I don't think an ex has the right to ask you not to get up to anything, they are an ex after all.

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Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:

Now that Tom is gone, the big question is whether she will go back after Siavash, hoping to twist him around her finger, or move onto Freddie - or even Lisa.

She would have to be incredibly brave or totally stupid to try and go back to Siavash.

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Originally posted by Mentalist:

Thinking of my own exs, there a couple who if they had asked me that, I would have probably shannaniganed half the british population

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Mentalist:

Thinking of my own exs, there a couple who if they had asked me that, I would have probably shannaniganed half the british population

I can't say I'd be having any bugger I'd split up with dictating to me what I could and couldn't do..

I reckon she wants him back.. big style. From what I've seen about how it ended, he dumped her... that's gotta smart for a gal like Noirin who says she is used to having what she wants and to getting her own way.

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Originally posted by shar69:
The psychology babble says, sub consciously, we dislike traits in other people that we dislike in ourselves

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Originally posted by Duckypup:

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Originally posted by shar69:
The psychology babble says, sub consciously, we dislike traits in other people that we dislike in ourselves

I like her. A LOT

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Originally posted by Videostar:
If people still dont know what Noirin has done wrong then theres no point in me or anyone else bothering to enlighten them as they are clearly are blinkered over Noirin and wont accept that shes not perfect by any means.

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Originally posted by shar69:

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Originally posted by Videostar:
If people still dont know what Noirin has done wrong then theres no point in me or anyone else bothering to enlighten them as they are clearly are blinkered over Noirin and wont accept that shes not perfect by any means.

Mmmmmmm. The same can be said of any housemate. Some people feel the need to defend Noirin because they can't understand the 'hate' raged against her. Most will tell you that Noirin is not their favourite. Some of the comments are and make you wonder 'did I miss the bit in the show where she stripped naked and straddled every man in the house, and then stabbed them through the heart afterwards'.

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Originally posted by shar69:

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Originally posted by Videostar:
If people still dont know what Noirin has done wrong then theres no point in me or anyone else bothering to enlighten them as they are clearly are blinkered over Noirin and wont accept that shes not perfect by any means.

Mmmmmmm. The same can be said of any housemate. Some people feel the need to defend Noirin because they can't understand the 'hate' raged against her. Most will tell you that Noirin is not their favourite. Some of the comments are and make you wonder 'did I miss the bit in the show where she stripped naked and straddled every man in the house, and then stabbed them through the heart afterwards'.

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Originally posted by greenandpink:

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Originally posted by darloboy07:
Not been impressed with some of her behaviour but still like her .

Lol!! another worthy Victim

What behaviour precisely though darloboy??

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Originally posted by Mentalist:

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Originally posted by Duckypup:

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Originally posted by shar69:
The psychology babble says, sub consciously, we dislike traits in other people that we dislike in ourselves

I like her. A LOT

I knew it Why aren't you in the Sree thread

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Originally posted by Duckypup:

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Originally posted by Mentalist:

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Originally posted by Duckypup:

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Originally posted by shar69:
The psychology babble says, sub consciously, we dislike traits in other people that we dislike in ourselves

I like her. A LOT

I knew it Why aren't you in the Sree thread

It's become almost acceptable to like Sree..

I might go and join the Noirin fan club.

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Originally posted by Mentalist:

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Originally posted by Duckypup:

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Originally posted by Mentalist:

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Originally posted by Duckypup:

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Originally posted by shar69:
The psychology babble says, sub consciously, we dislike traits in other people that we dislike in ourselves

I like her. A LOT

I knew it Why aren't you in the Sree thread

It's become almost acceptable to like Sree..

I might go and join the Noirin fan club.

Get Strike to change it, he loves a lost cause

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Originally posted by Mentalist:

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Originally posted by shar69:

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Originally posted by Videostar:
If people still dont know what Noirin has done wrong then theres no point in me or anyone else bothering to enlighten them as they are clearly are blinkered over Noirin and wont accept that shes not perfect by any means.

Mmmmmmm. The same can be said of any housemate. Some people feel the need to defend Noirin because they can't understand the 'hate' raged against her. Most will tell you that Noirin is not their favourite. Some of the comments are and make you wonder 'did I miss the bit in the show where she stripped naked and straddled every man in the house, and then stabbed them through the heart afterwards'.

Yes that was on a week ago Thursday. She is very limber

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
It's human nature to like some people and dislike others based on their personality traits and characteristics. I happen to dislike Noirin based on what *I* perceive to be personality traits that I do not like.

It amused me to no end in BB7 when some people called Aisleyne "fake" and yet loved it when Nicky acted like a four year old child.

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Originally posted by tupps:
I wonder how many of the forum ladies supporting Noirin would feel if she was doing what she is doing with their OHs/sons/brothers etc.

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Originally posted by Cariad:

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Originally posted by tupps:
I wonder how many of the forum ladies supporting Noirin would feel if she was doing what she is doing with their OHs/sons/brothers etc.

I think I'd be more embarrassed to have raised such as numpty as to take it seriously.

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Originally posted by shar69:

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
It's human nature to like some people and dislike others based on their personality traits and characteristics. I happen to dislike Noirin based on what *I* perceive to be personality traits that I do not like.

It amused me to no end in BB7 when some people called Aisleyne "fake" and yet loved it when Nicky acted like a four year old child.

I've said it before, but if we dislike someone, for whatever reason, we tend to see bad in all that they do. Its evident year after year in forum threads. A person will defend one of their favourites for certain behaviour and then totally slate another hm for doing the exact same thing, saying 'its not the action its the intent behind it'. I have defended Noirins actions, I have also defended Marcus'. Do I want either of them to win.....HELL NO. I think the only housemate that I wouldn't defend is Lisa, why, cause I really cannot stand her.

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Originally posted by suzybean:

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Originally posted by Cariad:

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Originally posted by tupps:
I wonder how many of the forum ladies supporting Noirin would feel if she was doing what she is doing with their OHs/sons/brothers etc.

I think I'd be more embarrassed to have raised such as numpty as to take it seriously.

absolutely.