She didn't have to say what she said to the group. She didn't have to drop Kenny and Tom in it. Now I'm definately back to being unsure about her.
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quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:
After the way they spoke to her in the bedroom, Kenny telling her to STFU because she wasn't obeying his orders, I think she has every room to drop them in it.
Ken and Tom are both nasty pieces of work.
No one would say anything if Mr campboy, Kenny and Tom slaughtered her behind her back, shes just making sure the truth is out there.
quote:Originally posted by Reality Junkie:
Her patronising attitude to Kenny only wound him up more AND SHE KNEW IT.
Agreed, she clocked on very early, and started yanking his chain thereon.
quote:Originally posted by JacksonB:
fair play to her, gave her shit for 3 days and tommy twat starts a speech about much it upset him to do the task. too right she spilt the beans.
she wasn't going to let him claim all the glory
quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:
After the way they spoke to her in the bedroom, Kenny telling her to STFU because she wasn't obeying his orders, I think she has every room to drop them in it.
Ken and Tom are both nasty pieces of work.
What's worse, him telling her to STFU or her calling him someone who is threatening murder?
she was very clever, she got him to expose his nasty side without being confrontational, I like her, shes smart, I hope she keeps it up, HE (wanKEN) thinks he is SO clever,
quote:Originally posted by JacksonB:quote:Originally posted by Free Thinking:quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:
After the way they spoke to her in the bedroom, Kenny telling her to STFU because she wasn't obeying his orders, I think she has every room to drop them in it.
Ken and Tom are both nasty pieces of work.
What's worse, him telling her to STFU or her calling him someone who is threatening murder?
so we can't fall for bea's game of appearing an innocent in the world, but we can fall for ken's lame reasons for his threats?
The truth is some 'threats' on Big Brother are overlooked while others are made into monumental events. How much it was a threat is questionable, it was Charlie who made it into a big deal and it wasn't even said to Bea.
well that's what he said, after he admitted to tommy twat, that he'd just dropped himself in it..quote:Originally posted by hal:quote:Originally posted by JacksonB:quote:Originally posted by Free Thinking:quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:
After the way they spoke to her in the bedroom, Kenny telling her to STFU because she wasn't obeying his orders, I think she has every room to drop them in it.
Ken and Tom are both nasty pieces of work.
What's worse, him telling her to STFU or her calling him someone who is threatening murder?
so we can't fall for bea's game of appearing an innocent in the world, but we can fall for ken's lame reasons for his threats?
I thought he meant she wouldn't get the chance to argue with him, cos he will just ask someone to remove her from his presence etc etc....but it could be interpreted as a threat too, the way things are nowadays.
His pomposity would be his downfall
quote:Originally posted by fz:quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:Agreed Senora....I wish David had said to her what he said to Lisa I'd love to have saw her response.
I bet he'll make sure everyone knows....
It's his own quiet unassuming way as always
she's probably just crap at getting out o bed.quote:Originally posted by strike:quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:quote:Originally posted by strike:
has she been fired from all her jobs ?
does anyone know this ?
That's what Davina said on the newbies launch night.
does make you wonder how much "peace loving" she actually is
quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:quote:Originally posted by Free Thinking:quote:Originally posted by JacksonB:quote:Originally posted by Free Thinking:quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:
After the way they spoke to her in the bedroom, Kenny telling her to STFU because she wasn't obeying his orders, I think she has every room to drop them in it.
Ken and Tom are both nasty pieces of work.
What's worse, him telling her to STFU or her calling him someone who is threatening murder?
so we can't fall for bea's game of appearing an innocent in the world, but we can fall for ken's lame reasons for his threats?
The truth is some 'threats' on Big Brother are overlooked while others are made into monumental events. How much it was a threat is questionable, it was Charlie who made it into a big deal and it wasn't even said to Bea.
Wrong. Charlie questioned him because he was shocked at what he'd just heard, same as I and many others were shocked and horrified by the nastiness spewing from Kenny the Creep's mouth.
Alex was chucked out last year for basically the same kind of threat. I'm stunned that small cock kenny wasn't thrown out as well.
and perhaps even more surprisingly not given a formal warning.
She did expose herself a bit and it could backfire, if the existing housemates see the same thing as the viewer. She has now also alienated herself from the newbies.
She knew exactly how to wind up Kenneth without appearing to incite anything, he knew it, she knew it but she is certainly the intellectually superior. She clearly dented his ego, and he could only react with empty threats which only served to make him look even more pathetic.
She has played someone who would deem themselves to be untouchable and thrown the game right back in his face. She's got to be admired from that standpoint although I agree she is not the character she would like us to think. She is very shrewd and a class manipulator. I like her I think. Its interesting.
She knew exactly how to wind up Kenneth without appearing to incite anything, he knew it, she knew it but she is certainly the intellectually superior. She clearly dented his ego, and he could only react with empty threats which only served to make him look even more pathetic.
She has played someone who would deem themselves to be untouchable and thrown the game right back in his face. She's got to be admired from that standpoint although I agree she is not the character she would like us to think. She is very shrewd and a class manipulator. I like her I think. Its interesting.
quote:Originally posted by Forest:
She did expose herself a bit and it could backfire, if the existing housemates see the same thing as the viewer. She has now also alienated herself from the newbies.
She knew exactly how to wind up Kenneth without appearing to incite anything, he knew it, she knew it but she is certainly the intellectually superior. She clearly dented his ego, and he could only react with empty threats which only served to make him look even more pathetic.
She has played someone who would deem themselves to be untouchable and thrown the game right back in his face. She's got to be admired from that standpoint although I agree she is not the character she would like us to think. She is very shrewd and a class manipulator. I like her I think. Its interesting.
Yes I agree .........but then she went and spoilt it all at the end by revealing all what had gone on in the task. She may well have ingratiated herself with some of the original FM's but will undoubtdly have lost friends on the way.
she was far too quick and eager to spill the beans and make the rest of the newbies look like s**t. I think she's overplayed her hand too early TBH.
Which happily for her made everyone else out to be schemers and her to have a shining halo.quote:Originally posted by WILDER X:quote:because SOME people have strong ideas of what is right and what is wrong, and in MY eyes that task was just WRONG, it was nasty and underhand and I would have refused to do it and to hell with consiquences
It's bb.
Also she couldn't wait to spill the beans.
So she hopes anyway!
I don't like her at all.
She's a scheming little witch pretending to be a hippy dipstick.
quote:Originally posted by Jenny:
She could come to regret what she said. If the old housemates start to think that she is either ingratiating herself, or not a team player, they may target her for their nominations.
I still don't hold it against her that she 'dropped them in it' as has been said. She was covering her arse. What's the betting the other newbies would have started to tell their version of it to the oldies sooner or later.
I'm still liking her.
Yes .....but it's all about timing IMO. She'd have done herself a lot more favours if she'd kept her mouth shut for a wee bit longer (even half an hour) it all looked a bit desperate IMO .....never a good thing.
quote:Originally posted by Soozy woo:quote:Originally posted by Jenny:
She could come to regret what she said. If the old housemates start to think that she is either ingratiating herself, or not a team player, they may target her for their nominations.
I still don't hold it against her that she 'dropped them in it' as has been said. She was covering her arse. What's the betting the other newbies would have started to tell their version of it to the oldies sooner or later.
I'm still liking her.
Yes .....but it's all about timing IMO. She'd have done herself a lot more favours if she'd kept her mouth shut for a wee bit longer (even half an hour) it all looked a bit desperate IMO .....never a good thing.
She has left herself wide open by trying to make herself look good ....she's probably earned herself a vote from david, tom and lisa....I would add Hira but I think she went home for tea yesterday and forgot to come back.
quote:Originally posted by cup:
her whole issue was putting fred up
why not just tell fred her reasons
obviously it wasnt the case she sung like a big canary to everyone how wonderful she was
It was her public display of loyalty to Freddie, and in Freddie's presence
, that made me think this girl is not what she seems. She over-egged the pudding and it could be her downfall. Her little loyalty spiel had insincerity written all over it.
I watched BB over again on + and she seemed very cold and calculating .
quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
She over-egged the pudding and it could be her downfall. .
Exactly my thoughts.
Enjoy 'Desperate Romantics', btw? I thought it was fab.
No - he said he would get someone to 'sort her out on the outside.' Nasty pathetic cowardly threats that the teeny weenied boy could never carry outquote:Originally posted by Free Thinking:
And the comment about having met some of the most dangerous people in the world and this one about her not being able to confront him on the outside were completely SEPARATE statements, it's extremely disingenuous of you to try and link them together.
quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:quote:Originally posted by cup:
her whole issue was putting fred up
why not just tell fred her reasons
obviously it wasnt the case she sung like a big canary to everyone how wonderful she was
It was her public display of loyalty to Freddie, and in Freddie's presence
yes that was so calculating i thought freddie looked bemused.
quote:Originally posted by roland rat:
i have not read so much rubbish the girl stood up for herself against a bully and you all think she is wrong i thought she showed courage ken is a self satisfied nob who thinks he is betterthan everyone else and he dont like being challenge.its could being a dictator he who must be obeyed or your taken away.bea is ok by me
GREAT POST. Can't believe all the negativity against BEA on this thread. Quite shocked actually. If a MAN had behaved the same as her; it would probably have been 'acceptable behaviour,' but God Forbid a WOMAN stick up for herself; she is obviously a scheming cow, and a 'game player' and there is something 'suspicious' about her behaviour. It's like a woman in business is classed as a bitch and a cow if she runs the office place with a rod of iron, but a man is ambitious and 'strong..' Total double standards. 
Come off it: she made Ken look like a fool, and he did not like it. End of.
quote:Originally posted by cup:quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:quote:Originally posted by cup:
her whole issue was putting fred up
why not just tell fred her reasons
obviously it wasnt the case she sung like a big canary to everyone how wonderful she was
It was her public display of loyalty to Freddie, and in Freddie's presence
yes that was so calculating i thought freddie looked bemused.
Me too.... and i am hoping he sees straight through her.... if only cos he doesn't want to share the prize
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by mary_bee:quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
She didn't have to say what she said to the group. She didn't have to drop Kenny and Tom in it. Now I'm definately back to being unsure about her.
Yes, so much for integrity and her moral compass or whatever the hell it was she was preaching on about last night.
hmmmmmmmm
What 'choo hmmming at
quote:Originally posted by Free Thinking:
Bea dropped the other new HMs into it DURING the task in a talk to Freddie:
"It's a dilemma," she sighed back. "Cos it would be, I believe, the fair thing. But not everyone wants things to be fair. And I've already done the fair thing as much as it's in my power to do. That was why Kenny was having a go at me this morning. Cos I wasn't willing to do something that goes against my morals. I don't think this is a game show, I think it's a personality show. I'd rather do something that was not beneficial to me, than do something that is not me."
"That does make sense," Halfwit nodded.
"Now I could still do something that would turn it all on its head," she said mysteriously, with another big sigh. "I don't know if saying, it would be too late. And I don't want to win, so I have different motivations from one or two people out there. I think that there are people out there who think 100 grand will make them happy. But I think I know better. Being honourable is better."
http://www.channel4.com/bigbro...d8c11d94d1e7/view.c4
OMG how bile inducing is that little spiel.
quote:Originally posted by storm:quote:Originally posted by roland rat:
i have not read so much rubbish the girl stood up for herself against a bully and you all think she is wrong i thought she showed courage ken is a self satisfied nob who thinks he is betterthan everyone else and he dont like being challenge.its could being a dictator he who must be obeyed or your taken away.bea is ok by me
Come off it: she made Ken look like a fool, and he did not like it. End of.
Nor did some people on this forum.
quote:Originally posted by storm:LOL, I agree Spidermonkey. I am finding the posts on here against Bea most extraordinary.quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:
Nor did some people on this forum.
They've started their hate campaign a bit too early I think. At least wait until she's not having her life threatened.
quote:Originally posted by storm:LOL, I agree Spidermonkey. I am finding the posts on here against Bea most extraordinary.quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:
Nor did some people on this forum.
I was unsure about Bea, I didn't take an instant liking to her like some did, the jury was still very much out, I still think how she stood up to Kenny was right, what she did aftwards with the group was self serving, and totally unecessary, so for now I'm squarely back to being unsure of her motives.
quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:quote:Originally posted by Free Thinking:quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:quote:Originally posted by storm:LOL, I agree Spidermonkey. I am finding the posts on here against Bea most extraordinary.quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:
Nor did some people on this forum.
They've started their hate campaign a bit too early I think. At least wait until she's not having her life threatened.
But was her life even threatened? Also the remark wasn't even made to her.
Yes it was threatened.
That's a matter of opinion.
quote:Originally posted by Free Thinking:quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:quote:Originally posted by Free Thinking:quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:quote:Originally posted by storm:LOL, I agree Spidermonkey. I am finding the posts on here against Bea most extraordinary.quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:
Nor did some people on this forum.
They've started their hate campaign a bit too early I think. At least wait until she's not having her life threatened.
But was her life even threatened? Also the remark wasn't even made to her.
Yes it was threatened.
That's a matter of opinion.
On that I will agree.
quote:Originally posted by fz:quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:quote:Originally posted by Soozy woo:
I think some people are missing the point. Most people admire the way she stood up to Ken .......that's not what this is about.
It's the fact that as soon as the task was revealed she told everyone all the plots and schemes that had taken place (not nice - it was a task after all) then went on to make out she was Mother Theresa .............that's why she earned respect and quickly lost it.
I totally admired her for her run-in with Kenny and how she wiped the floor with him throughout his weasle-like like like like like apology but she picked the wrong time and moment to blurt everything out. Maybe it was just the stress of the whole thing?
I still like her a lot but shall be watching her closely
I still like her a lot but shall be watching her closely
I thought it was the right moment to do it. Sleazy Kenneth and Letchy Tom were busy saying how they had not wanted to do it and they were lieing. They were revelling in it making excuses about how Noirin would be up anyway and Freddie was safe! Thick as mince the pair of them to not realise even at the last knockings, that their daft plan to make Freddie say something about Nominations and therefore be up, was not in fact the task! The task was to get the old hms to nominate both freddie and noirin in such numbers that they would be up not just to rely on trickery!
Hi Lessa 