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Originally posted by Roxi:

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Originally posted by jennywren:

No, they weren't. He never adopted them and they weren't his biologically.

They are his kids they were made by his own sperm. He said on the Bashir interview he had sex with Debbie Rowe. And he had his sperm used for the mystery mother to Blanket

Roxi have you seen these vids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PTZ3yreS-8

A friend sent this link last night. While Bashir was filming MJ there were cameras in Neverland also filming the interview - which Bashir was aware of. Bashir is proven on these vids to be a complete and utter hypocrite. I know there's a Bashir prog this week but if it's a repeat of his other one I'll definitely not be watching. He should apologise for some of the distasteful remarks he makes to ABC and other sources

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Originally posted by jennywren:
Those children are not the product of his sperm.

Those kids are Michael Jackson's kids. They were made from his sperm

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Originally posted by Yellow Rose:
Roxi have you seen these vids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PTZ3yreS-8

A friend sent this link last night. While Bashir was filming MJ there were cameras in Neverland also filming the interview - which Bashir was aware of. Bashir is proven on these vids to be a complete and utter hypocrite. I know there's a Bashir prog this week but if it's a repeat of his other one I'll definitely not be watching. He should apologise for some of the distasteful remarks he makes to ABC and other sources

Yellow Rose I have seen the other version of the Bashir interview and Bashir totally screwed Michael. He was wrong to edit out bits that should of been shown. He is the person who started the trouble for Michael. They really messed Michael up after Bashir's interview was shown. Bashir should be made to apologise for what he did. Really he should of apologised ages ago when Michael was still alive. Its so sad how everything went downhill from this interview Michael didnt deserve that. The Bashir interview is being shown on ITV1 this week I think. They have edited out that Gavin boy who accused Michael of molestering strange how they edit that out now

I was disgusted by some of Bashir's remarks after his filming at Neverland. When he was interviewing Michael about his children he was so sycophantic, and yet later to another source is completely different. And to mess up that family's life with allegation about the sick son with cancer made me furious. Yes, I loved Michael's music, hubby not so much but he also watched the vids and felt the same anger I did at his hypocracy and alleging such things, not only about that particular child with cancer but the many other children with terminal illness that are taken to Neverland.

Debbie says in todays Sun that she hasn't given up rights to the children or reached an agreement with the Jacksons.
Hard to know whats true.

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Originally posted by WILDER X:
I don't know what to believe anymore.
Some say the children are not her's she just carried them.

I bet Jeremy Kyle's trying to bag her on the show as we speak. He's used to dealing with one mum v's 4 potential fathers, but he could REALLY go to town with the preaching on THIS one

Well if we're in the realms of believing everything we see in print, LaToya said earlier int he week that she knew the youngest was from donor sperm and egg but that she didn't know who the mother was...she admitted THAT one wasn't Michael's biological child.

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
Well if we're in the realms of believing everything we see in print, LaToya said earlier int he week that she knew the youngest was from donor sperm and egg but that she didn't know who the mother was...she admitted THAT one wasn't Michael's biological child.

Yep and if we're in the realms of believing what MJ said in interviews then he admitted to having young boys he was not related to sleeping in his bed

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Originally posted by PuppyDooDoo:

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Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:
Then again, if someone offered me $4m for my spawn ...

What if they offered $1m for them?

Yours for $3m

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Originally posted by jennywren:
I imagine there's almost nothing more powerful than a Jackson lawyer.

Some reports even say MJ stopped making payments to her.

You can't judge this woman. You don't know the full story of how powerful the Jacksons could be.

Remember, MJ didn't even adopt these children, so, legally, they weren't his.

They're nobody's children. How are they going to feel when they are older and don't belong to anybody? Particularly when grandma Jackson is no more.

They were married to each other when Debbie had the first two so they are is.

MACH DAS WEG!!11!!

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
Well if we're in the realms of believing everything we see in print, LaToya said earlier int he week that she knew the youngest was from donor sperm and egg but that she didn't know who the mother was...she admitted THAT one wasn't Michael's biological child.

I find it odd that the surrogate for the third child hasn't materialised. She must know who she is.

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Originally posted by Moonbeams:

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Originally posted by jennywren:
I imagine there's almost nothing more powerful than a Jackson lawyer.

Some reports even say MJ stopped making payments to her.

You can't judge this woman. You don't know the full story of how powerful the Jacksons could be.

Remember, MJ didn't even adopt these children, so, legally, they weren't his.

They're nobody's children. How are they going to feel when they are older and don't belong to anybody? Particularly when grandma Jackson is no more.

They were married to each other when Debbie had the first two so they are is.

In old English law, that would be the case but I wonder if modern American law really is the same.

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Originally posted by Moonbeams:

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Originally posted by jennywren:
I imagine there's almost nothing more powerful than a Jackson lawyer.

Some reports even say MJ stopped making payments to her.

You can't judge this woman. You don't know the full story of how powerful the Jacksons could be.

Remember, MJ didn't even adopt these children, so, legally, they weren't his.

They're nobody's children. How are they going to feel when they are older and don't belong to anybody? Particularly when grandma Jackson is no more.

They were married to each other when Debbie had the first two so they are is.

I said the same thing last night on this thread Moonbeams.

a thug

did you see that nasty film clip f her coming ut of the supermarket

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Originally posted by jennywren:

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
Well if we're in the realms of believing everything we see in print, LaToya said earlier int he week that she knew the youngest was from donor sperm and egg but that she didn't know who the mother was...she admitted THAT one wasn't Michael's biological child.

I find it odd that the surrogate for the third child hasn't materialised. She must know who she is.

Not necessarily...it may all have been done though a middle man.

It's like a dickens novel. They need to do all they can to keep them from his scummy father; Joe Jackson you had your chance and you blew it!

If Katherine is going to be able to keep Joe Jackson away from the grandkids so well then why couldn't she manage it with her own kids?

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:

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Originally posted by jennywren:

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
Well if we're in the realms of believing everything we see in print, LaToya said earlier int he week that she knew the youngest was from donor sperm and egg but that she didn't know who the mother was...she admitted THAT one wasn't Michael's biological child.

I find it odd that the surrogate for the third child hasn't materialised. She must know who she is.

Not necessarily...it may all have been done though a middle man.

Enough of that filthy talk I can't begin to tell you the image I have in my head.

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
If Katherine is going to be able to keep Joe Jackson away from the grandkids so well then why couldn't she manage it with her own kids?

She now has the gift of hind sight maybe.

Can I just say Blanket/ Prince Michael is the most beautiful child I have ever seen.

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Originally posted by Moonbeams:
Can I just say Blanket/ Prince Michael is the most beautiful child I have ever seen.

You haven't seen mine

I agree though, I think he is a lovely looking child in fact, they all are.

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:

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Originally posted by jennywren:

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
Well if we're in the realms of believing everything we see in print, LaToya said earlier int he week that she knew the youngest was from donor sperm and egg but that she didn't know who the mother was...she admitted THAT one wasn't Michael's biological child.

I find it odd that the surrogate for the third child hasn't materialised. She must know who she is.

Not necessarily...it may all have been done though a middle man.

Of course, but the woman herself must have known where and when the baby was born, simply because she was there.

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Originally posted by jennywren:

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:

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Originally posted by jennywren:

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
Well if we're in the realms of believing everything we see in print, LaToya said earlier int he week that she knew the youngest was from donor sperm and egg but that she didn't know who the mother was...she admitted THAT one wasn't Michael's biological child.

I find it odd that the surrogate for the third child hasn't materialised. She must know who she is.

Not necessarily...it may all have been done though a middle man.

Of course, but the woman herself must have known where and when the baby was born, simply because she was there.

es but some surrogates have no idea who the father/sperm doner is. It's just a financial transaction with a lawyer acting.