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She just can't win can she?...She's called all sorts for not speaking/being nice to Freddy but when she does she's an ulterior motive/a**e licking....As for moving groups would Marcus Saviash and Freddys gentle persuasion not have played a part?....No it's Noirin so off course not.


I would agree with you Lee had i not heard her conversation the night before when Freddie and Siavash were freak's and weirdo's. Also Siavash wasn't even talking to her since that aruement, yet she was still sitting in their company. It must have been extremely awkward for her.
I still prefer Noirin to any of the other females in there, i don't think she's naive, i think she's a smart young woman, used to getting her own way and there's nothing wrong with that.
I DO still believe she was sucking up to Freddie last night, she told him on more than one occassion within a short space of time that she trusted him and found him the most sincere person in there. Yet the night before she called him a freak, weirdo and she would never talk to him again.
There's nothing wrong with she's doing, hell we probably have all tried it at one time or another, i'm probably just jealous that i wasn't as good at it as she is. Smiler
Bethni
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Originally posted by Bethni:
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She just can't win can she?...She's called all sorts for not speaking/being nice to Freddy but when she does she's an ulterior motive/a**e licking....As for moving groups would Marcus Saviash and Freddys gentle persuasion not have played a part?....No it's Noirin so off course not.


I would agree with you Lee had i not heard her conversation the night before when Freddie and Siavash were freak's and weirdo's. Also Siavash wasn't even talking to her since that aruement, yet she was still sitting in their company. It must have been extremely awkward for her.
I still prefer Noirin to any of the other females in there, i don't think she's naive, i think she's a smart young woman, used to getting her own way and there's nothing wrong with that.
I DO still believe she was sucking up to Freddie last night, she told him on more than one occassion within a short space of time that she trusted him and found him the most sincere person in there. Yet the night before she called him a freak, weirdo and she would never talk to him again.
There's nothing wrong with she's doing, hell we probably have all tried it at one time or another, i'm probably just jealous that i wasn't as good at it as she is. Smiler


I think she is self centered and bossy. Marcus seems to try and get her to realize this but she just wants to close her eyes.
Free Thinking
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Originally posted by Bethni:
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She just can't win can she?...She's called all sorts for not speaking/being nice to Freddy but when she does she's an ulterior motive/a**e licking....As for moving groups would Marcus Saviash and Freddys gentle persuasion not have played a part?....No it's Noirin so off course not.


I would agree with you Lee had i not heard her conversation the night before when Freddie and Siavash were freak's and weirdo's. Also Siavash wasn't even talking to her since that aruement, yet she was still sitting in their company. It must have been extremely awkward for her.
I still prefer Noirin to any of the other females in there, i don't think she's naive, i think she's a smart young woman, used to getting her own way and there's nothing wrong with that.
I DO still believe she was sucking up to Freddie last night, she told him on more than one occassion within a short space of time that she trusted him and found him the most sincere person in there. Yet the night before she called him a freak, weirdo and she would never talk to him again.
There's nothing wrong with she's doing, hell we probably have all tried it at one time or another, i'm probably just jealous that i wasn't as good at it as she is. Smiler

She also told him she saw him through a wall of red or words to that affect....In other words she was very angry with him ....I think we all say things we don't really mean when we're very upset no?.....TBH when she comes out and can see for sure despite what he said indeed he was sat right beside her when Saviash said the names Freddy may head for the hills for lying to her Laugh
~Lee~
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Originally posted by cup:
if only marcus wasnt so in love with her

he would have told her to pee off the way she dumped him when he was of no use to her

she went back of her own accord to marcus and chooses to sit with him etc

what a user

Big GrinSo in love with her?...Now now Cup stop being so dramatic....As for dumping him surely there'd have to be an established relationship inorder for him to be dumped no?
~Lee~
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Originally posted by cup:
if only marcus wasnt so in love with her

he would have told her to pee off the way she dumped him when he was of no use to her

she went back of her own accord to marcus and chooses to sit with him etc

what a user


There's that, but it's also convenient just to have someone to chat to and hang out with on this show, it makes it easier.

And feelings can be heightened because of the confined surroundings and at the same time repressed because of the cameras.
Free Thinking
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When I watched the live feed I really didn't know if Noirin was for real when she said she didn't know about the game planning all around her. Either she is very naive about BB, or she is playing little miss innocent to give off the idea that she doesn't know anything. But it is possible that she could be the former. It didn't dawn on me until last night that she may not be the player that people accuse her of being, maybe giving her more credit than is her due. When she makes her nominations tomorrow, the truth will out. She might be able to fox the people in the house, but her nominations will be the decider as to what sort of person she really is.


Very true...her nominations will be interesting. And probably the only ones we can't second guess.


hi fz. Watching her changing sides and giving off the impression she is one of the Marcus gang now may be all acting. But her nominations will reveal which side she is on. If she nominates two of the Lisa gang, then she really is in Marcus' gang. If she goes for one or more of the Marcus gang, then she has proved that she has been telling lies to stay in the game. That's why I need to see her nominations because only then will I know what she is all about. She is a bit inscrutable atm.


I am interested in who she nomiantes but it won't make me dislike her either way.....they are all playing the game...lisa and marcus the most...if noirin votes to try and evict a favourite then she is also playing the game....I think sensibly she should keep team nice close....but she may think siavash will nominate her and she'll then have to nominate him to cancel out the vote.

I dont expect loyalty from any of them. Wink


This is a decider week. You are either in team Lisa or team Marcus. They will all have to make the decision which side they are on. The lines are drawn, and not only in the bedroom arrangements. It's going to be the survival of the fittest group from now on, even with the new people coming in. Numbers are everything. Noirin's nominations, and maybe Rodrigo's, are vitally important for their future in the show imo.
Twee Surgeon
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Originally posted by cup:
if only marcus wasnt so in love with her

he would have told her to pee off the way she dumped him when he was of no use to her

she went back of her own accord to marcus and chooses to sit with him etc

what a user

Big GrinSo in love with her?...Now now Cup stop being so dramatic....As for dumping him surely there'd have to be an established relationship inorder for him to be dumped no?


They do have some kind of connection (or whatever you want to call it). But any 'relationship' in Big Brother isn't real as it's in an artificial environment, it's only defined properly on the outside. On the inside it's caught up in the glare of the cameras, the playing of the game etc.
Free Thinking
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She also told him she saw him through a wall of red or words to that affect....In other words she was very angry with him ....I think we all say things we don't really mean when we're very upset no?.....TBH when she comes out and can see for sure despite what he said indeed he was sat right beside her when Saviash said the names Freddy may head for the hills for lying to her



I've said before somewhere on here... the amount of times i have been asked by my mother when my sibbling's done something, 'what happened', and ive answered, 'i don't know, i wasn't there',.. still technically lying but not as much as i would if i opened my mouth. Freddie has been on the recieving end of all that group before remember, he know's what their like when they get going. He knew what Siavash was going though and was trying to stop it. Did he do as bad as Noirin did when she betrayed her word not to mention the conversation, i don't know. However i do know who handled it better.
Bethni
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by cup:
if only marcus wasnt so in love with her

he would have told her to pee off the way she dumped him when he was of no use to her

she went back of her own accord to marcus and chooses to sit with him etc

what a user


There's that, but it's also convenient just to have someone to chat to and hang out with on this show, it makes it easier.

And feelings can be heightened because of the confined surroundings and at the same time repressed because of the cameras.


no marcus would have thought it was relationship after half can of cider on lap he did

even though she treated him like rubbish and ran to lisa and co and made a fool of him behind back

he still welcomed her back because he has it bad

and marcus in his world would be in love,he was waiting to take it futher with it outside house god love him
C
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by cup:
if only marcus wasnt so in love with her

he would have told her to pee off the way she dumped him when he was of no use to her

she went back of her own accord to marcus and chooses to sit with him etc

what a user

Big GrinSo in love with her?...Now now Cup stop being so dramatic....As for dumping him surely there'd have to be an established relationship inorder for him to be dumped no?


They do have some kind of connection (or whatever you want to call it). But any 'relationship' in Big Brother isn't real as it's in an artificial environment, it's only defined properly on the outside. On the inside it's caught up in the glare of the cameras, the playing of the game etc.


l know but it is marcus half can cider on the lap norin and she is his bird

Big Grin
C
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Originally posted by Bethni:


I've said before somewhere on here... the amount of times i have been asked by my mother when my sibbling's done something, 'what happened', and ive answered, 'i don't know, i wasn't there',.. still technically lying but not as much as i would if i opened my mouth. Freddie has been on the recieving end of all that group before remember, he know's what their like when they get going. He knew what Siavash was going though and was trying to stop it. Did he do as bad as Noirin did when she betrayed her word not to mention the conversation, i don't know. However i do know who handled it better.

Well tbh my dad would have gone ballistic if he knew for sure we were there and were telling bare faced lies...Likewise I'd be the same with my children .....Then again as Freddy wants to be a politician perhaps he's perfecting the technique Big Grin
~Lee~
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by cup:
if only marcus wasnt so in love with her

he would have told her to pee off the way she dumped him when he was of no use to her

she went back of her own accord to marcus and chooses to sit with him etc

what a user

Big GrinSo in love with her?...Now now Cup stop being so dramatic....As for dumping him surely there'd have to be an established relationship inorder for him to be dumped no?


They do have some kind of connection (or whatever you want to call it). But any 'relationship' in Big Brother isn't real as it's in an artificial environment, it's only defined properly on the outside. On the inside it's caught up in the glare of the cameras, the playing of the game etc.


l know but it is marcus half can cider on the lap norin and she is his bird

Big Grin


I don't think it's quite that simple. They do have long conversations together nearly every night. Obviously alot of that isn't shown on the highlights.

Of course outside the house it's probably rare that friendships continue that long. For example people live in different regions and so find it hard to see each other.
Free Thinking
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by cup:
if only marcus wasnt so in love with her

he would have told her to pee off the way she dumped him when he was of no use to her

she went back of her own accord to marcus and chooses to sit with him etc

what a user

Big GrinSo in love with her?...Now now Cup stop being so dramatic....As for dumping him surely there'd have to be an established relationship inorder for him to be dumped no?


They do have some kind of connection (or whatever you want to call it). But any 'relationship' in Big Brother isn't real as it's in an artificial environment, it's only defined properly on the outside. On the inside it's caught up in the glare of the cameras, the playing of the game etc.


l know but it is marcus half can cider on the lap norin and she is his bird

Big Grin


I don't think it's quite that simple. They do have long conversations together nearly every night. Obviously alot of that isn't shown on the highlights.

Of course outside the house it's probably rare that friendships continue that long. For example people live in different regions and so find it hard to see each other.


i know what you mean although marcus is desperate for it to be something it is not and i do think the friendship she had with him she dumped on him running to lisa and slagging him she was rude to him

now she seems different toward him and is it to her advantage of genuine

friendship she wants

i would like to think it is,but after what she done on him i will wait and see
C
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by cup:
if only marcus wasnt so in love with her

he would have told her to pee off the way she dumped him when he was of no use to her

she went back of her own accord to marcus and chooses to sit with him etc

what a user

Big GrinSo in love with her?...Now now Cup stop being so dramatic....As for dumping him surely there'd have to be an established relationship inorder for him to be dumped no?


They do have some kind of connection (or whatever you want to call it). But any 'relationship' in Big Brother isn't real as it's in an artificial environment, it's only defined properly on the outside. On the inside it's caught up in the glare of the cameras, the playing of the game etc.


l know but it is marcus half can cider on the lap norin and she is his bird

Big Grin


I don't think it's quite that simple. They do have long conversations together nearly every night. Obviously alot of that isn't shown on the highlights.

Of course outside the house it's probably rare that friendships continue that long. For example people live in different regions and so find it hard to see each other.


i know what you mean although marcus is desperate for it to be something it is not and i do think the friendship she had with him she dumped on him running to lisa and slagging him she was rude to him

now she seems different toward him and is it to her advantage of genuine

friendship she wants

i would like to think it is,but after what she done on him i will wait and see


I don't really have a clue what she wants, but she'll decide I suppose outside the house and outside of the view of the cameras. It doesn't seem to me to be at all comparable to Sree who I'm not sure if she had long conversations with at all. That seemed to be purely about a gameplan.

They have probably seemed closer to me than the Kris-Sophie story. People are obsessed with sex on the show but just being able to talk with someone and get along with them is important for a long term friendship of whatever type.

I think Marcus is probably better off without her anyway.
Free Thinking
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by cup:
if only marcus wasnt so in love with her

he would have told her to pee off the way she dumped him when he was of no use to her

she went back of her own accord to marcus and chooses to sit with him etc

what a user

Big GrinSo in love with her?...Now now Cup stop being so dramatic....As for dumping him surely there'd have to be an established relationship inorder for him to be dumped no?


They do have some kind of connection (or whatever you want to call it). But any 'relationship' in Big Brother isn't real as it's in an artificial environment, it's only defined properly on the outside. On the inside it's caught up in the glare of the cameras, the playing of the game etc.


l know but it is marcus half can cider on the lap norin and she is his bird

Big Grin


I don't think it's quite that simple. They do have long conversations together nearly every night. Obviously alot of that isn't shown on the highlights.

Of course outside the house it's probably rare that friendships continue that long. For example people live in different regions and so find it hard to see each other.


i know what you mean although marcus is desperate for it to be something it is not and i do think the friendship she had with him she dumped on him running to lisa and slagging him she was rude to him

now she seems different toward him and is it to her advantage of genuine

friendship she wants

i would like to think it is,but after what she done on him i will wait and see


I don't really have a clue what she wants, but she'll decide I suppose outside the house and outside of the view of the cameras. It doesn't seem to me to be at all comparable to Sree who I'm not sure if she had long conversations with at all. That seemed to be purely about a gameplan.

They have probably seemed closer to me than the Kris-Sophie story. People are obsessed with sex on the show but just being able to talk with someone and get along with them is important for a long term friendship of whatever type.

I think Marcus is probably better off without her anyway.


how could you survive that stint without finding a mate you do need someone in there big time
C
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Originally posted by Bethni:


I've said before somewhere on here... the amount of times i have been asked by my mother when my sibbling's done something, 'what happened', and ive answered, 'i don't know, i wasn't there',.. still technically lying but not as much as i would if i opened my mouth. Freddie has been on the recieving end of all that group before remember, he know's what their like when they get going. He knew what Siavash was going though and was trying to stop it. Did he do as bad as Noirin did when she betrayed her word not to mention the conversation, i don't know. However i do know who handled it better.

Well tbh my dad would have gone ballistic if he knew for sure we were there and were telling bare faced lies...Likewise I'd be the same with my children .....Then again as Freddy wants to be a politician perhaps he's perfecting the technique Big Grin


Lee, i didn't say my mum or dad would have been happy at me saying i didn't know. What i was saying was i would rather take the heat of my dad's wrath than land my brother's or sister's in it. I've caught my kid's at the same a few times... even though it get's me angry, i admire their loyalty.
Bethni
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how could you survive that stint without finding a mate you do need someone in there big time


Yep, that's what I said earlier. That's why for any relationship in the house it can be quite deceiving. It can seem really intense inside the house and because of that it's a bit unreal. They have only known each other for a few weeks lol. But because they have been living together 24/7 it seems more than that.
Free Thinking

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