i dont kno wot that means?

Baffled???

But we didn't see much of the noms at all. And we dont know who nommed who yet, do we?

so equally there is no "in group" ?

Sorry - but what`s an `out group`?

There was an impression towards the end of last week that the more individual housemates were thinking along the same lines regarding the dynamic. There was even suggestion that either Lisa or Kris could gain a significant amount of votes this week. What we saw however, was the individuals seemingly picking at one another in the nomination process.

The 'out' group (i.e. not Lisa's gang) are all turning on each other

Ignore me - i'm clearly losing the plot!

Ah.
Sorry Cold Sweat not to have grasped it straight away.
Thanks

Is this the belly-button issue that so many mums seem to love debating?

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Originally posted by brisket:
Ah.
Sorry Cold Sweat not to have grasped it straight away.
Thanks

Sophie being up has sent him ........

So there's an "in group", Lisa, Charlie, Karly, Dogface and Kris but the opposition is fragmented then? How much of that division is down to the Noirin effect where all the spare blokes are at each others throats because they've come under her spell?

There is the Lisa gang, bloke vote,
There is the individuals,they vote "individually"

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Originally posted by captain marbles:
So there's an "in group", Lisa, Charlie, Karly, Dogface and Kris but the opposition is fragmented then? How much of that division is down to the Noirin effect where all the spare blokes are at each others throats because they've come under her spell?

I do believe that the sexual tension between Marcus/Noirin and Charlie/Rodrigo has changed things over the past week. But perhaps i simply read too much into the plan that Freddie seemed to have - which looking at his own nominations, appears to have altered. Yes, the Noirin effect.

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
There was an impression towards the end of last week that the more individual housemates were thinking along the same lines regarding the dynamic. There was even suggestion that either Lisa or Kris could gain a significant amount of votes this week. What we saw however, was the individuals seemingly picking at one another in the nomination process.

Ahhh - this is a reference to some of my posts, and I see what you mean - the 'out' group as opposed to the 'in' crowd

Yeah, I speculated that I thought that Freddie was trying to work the individuals to get them together to all vote coherently for Kris and/or Lisa and I genuinely thought at the time that it could well happen. However, Freddie seems to have lost his focus a little over the weekend, to the point that even Siavash and Marcus nominated him. It's a shame, really, it could have been very interesting.

What has happened is very interesting also though so no loss by being wrong there!

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Originally posted by littleleicesterfox:
Siavash and Marcus nominated him.

LLF he got 7 noms, Charlie didn't nom him , so only one other hm didn't

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Originally posted by littleleicesterfox:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
There was an impression towards the end of last week that the more individual housemates were thinking along the same lines regarding the dynamic. There was even suggestion that either Lisa or Kris could gain a significant amount of votes this week. What we saw however, was the individuals seemingly picking at one another in the nomination process.

Ahhh - this is a reference to some of my posts, and I see what you mean - the 'out' group as opposed to the 'in' crowd

Yeah, I speculated that I thought that Freddie was trying to work the individuals to get them together to all vote coherently for Kris and/or Lisa and I genuinely thought at the time that it could well happen. However, Freddie seems to have lost his focus a little over the weekend, to the point that even Siavash and Marcus nominated him. It's a shame, really, it could have been very interesting.

What has happened is very interesting also though so no loss by being wrong there!

If the eviction order now went Kris followed by lisa; would we in essence be looking at one group, containing all the remaining housemates?

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Originally posted by erinp:
There is the Lisa gang, bloke vote,
There is the individuals,they vote "individually"

Thats because the Lisa gang blokes all fancy each other and some of the " so called" individual blokes fancy them too (as well as each other)
Confused?
Your meant to be!

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:

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Originally posted by littleleicesterfox:
Siavash and Marcus nominated him.

LLF he got 7 noms, Charlie didn't nom him , so only one other hm didn't

I've seen the noms thread this morning and you're right, only Marcus nommed him

However - I'd like to point out that I was spot on with Lisa and she did get three votes as I'd predicted. Marcus' acting like a plonker meant that the second vote didn't split so he's up instead of Lisa. We need to keep Marcus in if we want to get Lisa up any time soon.

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by littleleicesterfox:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
There was an impression towards the end of last week that the more individual housemates were thinking along the same lines regarding the dynamic. There was even suggestion that either Lisa or Kris could gain a significant amount of votes this week. What we saw however, was the individuals seemingly picking at one another in the nomination process.

Ahhh - this is a reference to some of my posts, and I see what you mean - the 'out' group as opposed to the 'in' crowd

Yeah, I speculated that I thought that Freddie was trying to work the individuals to get them together to all vote coherently for Kris and/or Lisa and I genuinely thought at the time that it could well happen. However, Freddie seems to have lost his focus a little over the weekend, to the point that even Siavash and Marcus nominated him. It's a shame, really, it could have been very interesting.

What has happened is very interesting also though so no loss by being wrong there!

If the eviction order now went Kris followed by lisa; would we in essence be looking at one group, containing all the remaining housemates?

I'm not sure. I think Karly has marked her card and to be fair to her I think she'd rather walk than have anything to do with Freddie.

It'll be very interesting to see who emerges as the leader if those two do go; I think Freddie is trying to herd people (like a shepherd, just like he said) to a degree but I don't think he has enough support in the house. I think Siavash is one to keep an eye on - he's a very dark horse and I think he'll come through this either very well and lead the group or very badly and become more isolated. He's another one I think has an excellent gameplan (and again I'll state for the record that I do not have a problem with gameplans - it's a gameshow and I think everyone in there has one, even if it's stating 'I'm just going to be myself')

Noirin has definately split the outsider 'team' a little. Charlie's growing annoyance at Rodrigo has mixed things up a bit as well!

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
Or at least that is the impression i got from the nominations that we were shown.

Any thoughts on this?

I'm confused too but we can only go on what is shown. Hard to know what's going on. Fast beginning to dislike the whole group