quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
that can be construed as patronising
In what way?
In what way?
putting all people who dislike Freddie in one box it wouldn't pay to all take the moral highground just because we don't like one personquote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
that can be construed as patronising
In what way?
Sorry off topic but its only one third of the way through the show.
Is anyone else bored with them already?
Is anyone else bored with them already?yes Moonbeams most of them tbhquote:Originally posted by Moonbeams:
Sorry off topic but its only one third of the way through the show.
quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:putting all people who dislike Freddie in one box it wouldn't pay to all take the moral highground just because we don't like one personquote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
that can be construed as patronising
In what way?
Oh right thank you. Some people then.
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
I'm sorry I know most of you like him, but me I just see a whiny, conniving, patronising idiot.
He knows exactly what he's doing and yes here's the word GAMEPLAN, he said at the beginning he knows how BB works and is using it to his full advantage and by the looks of it, seems to be working very well.
I also think he's getting quite smug and cocksure about being saved every week, I just don't like him at all and no I'm not a fan of the others either before I get accused of supporting team nasty.
Absolutely disagree with everything you say. I can see that Freddy has faults, we all have, but to survive in that house you need some sort of gameplan. They all have one.
So, good luck to Freddy and I hope he stays and wins.
I agree with you Lassie.
We all have faults and Freddie is no exception BUT, that apart, they are using him as a whipping boy and it isn't pleasant to witness. Reminds me somewhat of Lord of the Flies.
All this talk of 'a gameplan' by the others is ridiculous. THEY ALL HAVE GAMEPLANS - that's why they're in there TO PLAY THE GAME.
Why is it that that term should only be applied to one person?
If he did have such in mind, how come he gets nominated every single week? Surely that fact just proves that he doesn't have a gameplan and is merely an easy target and that is the reason why.
The majority of the other HM's are too unintelligent to communicate with Freddie and are unable to engage in a proper conversation with him. They're only interested in hair extensions, latest fashions, looking pretty and, all in all, just being totally shallow and thick.
God, if I were Freddie, I'd be bored out of my tiny mind with that vacuous bunch of numbskulls. Thank goodness he has Siavash and Marcus who do, at least, have knowledge of world events outside the realms of what celebrity is dating whom etc!
I do wish BB would give us some sensible, normal HM's for a change. Some people with good communication skills would make a welcome change.
quote:Originally posted by HyacinthB:
I agree with you Lassie.
We all have faults and Freddie is no exception BUT, that apart, they are using him as a whipping boy and it isn't pleasant to witness. Reminds me somewhat of Lord of the Flies.
All this talk of 'a gameplan' by the others is ridiculous. THEY ALL HAVE GAMEPLANS - that's why they're in there TO PLAY THE GAME.
Why is it that that term should only be applied to one person?
If he did have such in mind, how come he gets nominated every single week? Surely that fact just proves that he doesn't have a gameplan and is merely an easy target and that is the reason why.
The majority of the other HM's are too unintelligent to communicate with Freddie and are unable to engage in a proper conversation with him. They're only interested in hair extensions, latest fashions, looking pretty and, all in all, just being totally shallow and thick.
God, if I were Freddie, I'd be bored out of my tiny mind with that vacuous bunch of numbskulls. Thank goodness he has Siavash and Marcus who do, at least, have knowledge of world events outside the realms of what celebrity is dating whom etc!
I do wish BB would give us some sensible, normal HM's for a change. Some people with good communication skills would make a welcome change.
Hiya Hyacinth
Exactly. Everyone has faults, no-one is perfect. I like Freddy but I am also aware of his faults, but like him despite them. He is a decent young man and is showing the other HM's up for the ignorant people they are. They all have a gameplan, but they make it look as though it is only Freddy - so another excuse to nominate him
They are so stupid that they cannot comprehend that Freddy is surviving each week, because he is liked by most of the public.I too would be crawling up the wall, desperate for someone I could have an intelligent conversation with. So, for his sake, I hope that Siavash stays a bit longer.
quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:putting all people who dislike Freddie in one box it wouldn't pay to all take the moral highground just because we don't like one personquote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
that can be construed as patronising
In what way?
"Patronising" means being superior. It doesn't mean disagreeing with somebody and arguing a point.
There is enough evidence spoken on these boards to suggest that the opinion of Kris, Karly, Lisa is not all that high. Why do you think that is? If Freddie is superior to them in terms of character, then would it be wrong to say so if it is in fact the truth? There is evidence to suggest that Freddie is a liked HM and people like his integrity and intelligence - but at no time has Freddie spoken in a way that I would construe as patronising
If anything he is one of the most diplomatic and humble people in the house.Just because they all used the word"patronising" after Kris' lead, doesn't mean it is true. They don't know seem to know what the word means, just as they don't seem to know the meaning of the word "hypocrisy" or "bullying".
see I don't think that Freddie is liked all that much, people seem to be going for him as a vote against the Hms they dislkie more.quote:Originally posted by Summer_Breeze:quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:putting all people who dislike Freddie in one box it wouldn't pay to all take the moral highground just because we don't like one personquote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
that can be construed as patronising
In what way?
"Patronising" means being superior. It doesn't mean disagreeing with somebody and arguing a point.
There is enough evidence spoken on these boards to suggest that the opinion of Kris, Karly, Lisa is not all that high. Why do you think that is? If Freddie is superior to them in terms of character, then would it be wrong to say so if it is in fact the truth? There is evidence to suggest that Freddie is a liked HM and people like his integrity and intelligence - but at no time has Freddie spoken in a way that I would construe as patronising
Just because they all used the word"patronising" after Kris' lead, doesn't mean it is true. They don't know seem to know what the word means, just as they don't seem to know the meaning of the word "hypocrisy" or "bullying".
quote:Originally posted by Moonbeams:quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
There are far more annoying HM's than Freddy though.
Agreed. But when he dismissed the pratice run that Karly and Rodders wanted to do, I was backing Karly and Rodders all the way in that exchange of words.So, I'm thinking that maybe he can be a bit dismissive towards people all the time but BB just hasn't been showing us it.
He didn't exactly dismiss it - he merely wanted to hold onto his headphones a little longer so he could be word perfect before doing a full practice run with Karly and Rodrigo.
I believe they only had another 4 minutes with the headphones before they had to be given back to BB so he wanted to use the maximum time available. Nothing wrong in that.
quote:Originally posted by HyacinthB:quote:Originally posted by Moonbeams:quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
There are far more annoying HM's than Freddy though.
Agreed. But when he dismissed the pratice run that Karly and Rodders wanted to do, I was backing Karly and Rodders all the way in that exchange of words.So, I'm thinking that maybe he can be a bit dismissive towards people all the time but BB just hasn't been showing us it.
He didn't exactly dismiss it - he merely wanted to hold onto his headphones a little longer so he could be word perfect before doing a full practice run with Karly and Rodrigo.
I believe they only had another 4 minutes with the headphones before they had to be given back to BB so he wanted to use the maximum time available. Nothing wrong in that.
Yes exactly, I made that point earlier, but I seem to be invisible. 
quote:Originally posted by Moonbeams:
Sorry off topic but its only one third of the way through the show.
Totally bored with the Kris/Sophie romance. They're so clearly using each other but they're just one big borefest. No substance to either of them.
BB needs to inject some new life into the show to shake this lot up.
quote:Originally posted by cologne1:
Yes exactly, I made that point earlier, but I seem to be invisible.
Who said that?
quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by HyacinthB:quote:Originally posted by Moonbeams:quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
There are far more annoying HM's than Freddy though.
Agreed. But when he dismissed the pratice run that Karly and Rodders wanted to do, I was backing Karly and Rodders all the way in that exchange of words.So, I'm thinking that maybe he can be a bit dismissive towards people all the time but BB just hasn't been showing us it.
He didn't exactly dismiss it - he merely wanted to hold onto his headphones a little longer so he could be word perfect before doing a full practice run with Karly and Rodrigo.
I believe they only had another 4 minutes with the headphones before they had to be given back to BB so he wanted to use the maximum time available. Nothing wrong in that.
Just seen your post cologne but I'd already made my post prior to seeing yours. I'm always behind when reading pages so it takes a while to catch up.
I have to say that you put the point across far more eloquently than did I so thank you.
quote:Originally posted by HyacinthB:quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by HyacinthB:quote:Originally posted by Moonbeams:quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
There are far more annoying HM's than Freddy though.
Agreed. But when he dismissed the pratice run that Karly and Rodders wanted to do, I was backing Karly and Rodders all the way in that exchange of words.So, I'm thinking that maybe he can be a bit dismissive towards people all the time but BB just hasn't been showing us it.
He didn't exactly dismiss it - he merely wanted to hold onto his headphones a little longer so he could be word perfect before doing a full practice run with Karly and Rodrigo.
I believe they only had another 4 minutes with the headphones before they had to be given back to BB so he wanted to use the maximum time available. Nothing wrong in that.
Just seen your post cologne but I'd already made my post prior to seeing yours. I'm always behind when reading pages so it takes a while to catch up.
I have to say that you put the point across far more eloquently than did I so thank you.
I didn't mean you Hy
, anyway I was just being a bit petulant. 
LL
I.m starting to think that way too. Sree staying would really wind up Marcus and Noirin, but dont want Freddie to go cos Lisa will think she has wonquote:Originally posted by Templetonpeck:
If I was in the house with Halfwit, he would wreck my head so much...I only like the thoughts of him staying because of the looks on all their faces, but I really wish he would go and Sree would stay
quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
see I don't think that Freddie is liked all that much, people seem to be going for him as a vote against the Hms they dislkie more.
The FM's that I have been speaking to about Freddie really do seem to like him for his good qualities and not just because they hate other HM's more. It took me a while to really 'get' him and I think its probably only when you do sort of 'tune in' to the guy that you can see what a quirky guy he is. I think he is totally honest, and he doesn't backstab. I can understand that to some he is just plain irritating but its a mistake I think to assume that his supporters are only supporting him so as to get rid of other HM's that they dislike.
quote:Originally posted by longcat:My thoughts exactly. I have thought it since day 1. He came in with a gameplan and its a very good one and quite easy to achieve against the other thick HMs.quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
I'm sorry I know most of you like him, but me I just see a whiny, conniving, patronising idiot.
He knows exactly what he's doing and yes here's the word GAMEPLAN, he said at the beginning he knows how BB works and is using it to his full advantage and by the looks of it, seems to be working very well.
I also think he's getting quite smug and cocksure about being saved every week, I just don't like him at all and no I'm not a fan of the others either before I get accused of supporting team nasty.
At last!! Thought I was the only one who could see through Freddie. Like you, I'm not a fan of some of the other HMs but can't believe that Freddie is as naive as portrayed. He's there to raise his profile as a politician..nothing wrong with that, save I'd be worried if he's as naive as he'd have us believe. He'll no doubt succeed with his 'charm', intellect and guile but you can only fool some of the people some of the time....