After the crap we found out about MP's expenses, do we now not

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LuxorMember

quote:
Originally posted by Garage Joe:
quote:
Originally posted by Demantoid:
quote:
Day 27. Still waiting for the Telegraph's take on the Tax circumstances of various newspaper proprietors

Why are you concerned about this, Joe? The papers aren't paid for out of our taxes, they're private companies.

It's well documented that various British businesses do not pay Income Tax like you or I.
They have billions salted away off-shore.
Amounts of money that render the MP scandal as meaningless.
Thanks for the plug.

If the government are not clever enough to close the loopholes that allow people to get away with not paying the proper amount of income tax then good luck to them.
I for one would take every opportunity to pay as little as possible.

5/27/095:56 AM

captain marblesMember

I'm so angry.

My MP hasn't claimed for anything and even goes in everyday on one of the worst train services in the country just like a normal person.
Doesn't he realise that I need someone to point at and say "Well he does it so why cant I?" if ever I get caught liberating a pen from the post office or downloading a film from one of those nice filesharing sites?

5/27/096:03 AM

old hippy guyMember

PLEASE folks DONT spoil your papers, VOTE for someone ANYONE (except the B NAZI P of course)
a spoilt paper isnt counted and means nothing, vote for a fringe party or an independant or something,
think of it this way for every one who spoils their paper there is a BNP voter laughing his/her racist ass off,
I think it is time that we had a "none of the above" option on the ballot paper, that way a protest vote would MEAN something,
but of course our "betters" know this and are afraid of the outcome should such an option ever happen,
but VOTE fer gawds sake, men and women fought struggled and DIED so that you/we have the freedom to vote,...vote something,CHANGE something,

5/27/096:04 AM

DemantoidMember

Absolutely, OHG

Women didn't go on hunger strike, chain themselves to railings, get imprisoned or throw themselves to their deaths under the king's horse just so I could waste my vote.

5/27/096:22 AM

DemantoidMember

quote:
Originally posted by Garage Joe:
It's well documented that various British businesses do not pay Income Tax like you or I.
They have billions salted away off-shore.
Amounts of money that render the MP scandal as meaningless.
Thanks for the plug.

Of course it's well documented - it's scandalous and it needs sorting out, but I don't get the comparison between that and MPs' expenses, which are paid out of public money.

5/27/096:23 AM

Garage JoeMember

quote:
Originally posted by Demantoid:
quote:
Originally posted by Garage Joe:
It's well documented that various British businesses do not pay Income Tax like you or I.
They have billions salted away off-shore.
Amounts of money that render the MP scandal as meaningless.
Thanks for the plug.

Of course it's well documented - it's scandalous and it needs sorting out, but I don't get the comparison between that and MPs' expenses, which are paid out of public money.

People in glass houses. Because it's a newspaper that gave this such a send off. You would not know otherwise. Obviously we should know about these things but why now?
Am I the only one who is interested in how this information was sought? When the powers that be said that it was not in the public interest did that not set off any warning bells?
If I was that Comrade Ogilvy one I would be saying that this is the first stage of big business getting their revenge for being blamed for the economic circumstances and also to reduce the effective power of parliament.

A simple analogy about why it is so important and relevant is that if the correct ammounts of tax were paid they could probably build a state of the art hospital and staff it in every town.

The ammount tied up in MPs claims would probably buy a small portable X-Ray machine.

5/27/096:48 AM

DemantoidMember

quote:
Originally posted by Garage Joe:
People in glass houses. Because it's a newspaper that gave this such a send off. You would not know otherwise. Obviously we should know about these things but why now?
Am I the only one who is interested in how this information was sought? When the powers that be said that it was not in the public interest did that not set off any warning bells?
If I was that Comrade Ogilvy one I would be saying that this is the first stage of big business getting their revenge for being blamed for the economic circumstances and also to reduce the effective power of parliament.

A simple analogy about why it is so important and relevant is that if the correct ammounts of tax were paid they could probably build a state of the art hospital and staff it in every town.

The ammount tied up in MPs claims would probably buy a small portable X-Ray machine.

We know because the mole at the Fees Office was touting the list around - several papers turned it down apparently before the Telegraph snapped it up.

I wouldn't lump newspapers in with City fatcats, frankly, and I don't think they've been blamed (nor should they be, they're losing titles and employees left, right and centre) for the economic state of this country.

5/27/096:52 AM

Garage JoeMember

quote:
Originally posted by Demantoid:
quote:
Originally posted by Garage Joe:
People in glass houses. Because it's a newspaper that gave this such a send off. You would not know otherwise. Obviously we should know about these things but why now?
Am I the only one who is interested in how this information was sought? When the powers that be said that it was not in the public interest did that not set off any warning bells?
If I was that Comrade Ogilvy one I would be saying that this is the first stage of big business getting their revenge for being blamed for the economic circumstances and also to reduce the effective power of parliament.

A simple analogy about why it is so important and relevant is that if the correct ammounts of tax were paid they could probably build a state of the art hospital and staff it in every town.

The ammount tied up in MPs claims would probably buy a small portable X-Ray machine.

We know because the mole at the Fees Office was touting the list around - several papers turned it down apparently before the Telegraph snapped it up.

I wouldn't lump newspapers in with City fatcats, frankly, and I don't think they've been blamed (nor should they be, they're losing titles and employees left, right and centre) for the economic state of this country.

Not blaming the papers for the state of the country. But people like Rupert and the bloke at the Mail, whose name escapes me, seem to have fat cat status.
Even the sainted Grauniad which broke the Income Tax news were discovered to be up to no good.

5/27/097:01 AM

Garage JoeMember

This is my last word on the subject as I feel it has been done to death. The following is a letter in Monday's The Grauniad....

"My congratulations to the ex-SAS personnel who obtained the disc giving full details of MPs expenses.
Could they now procure a copy of the disc, supplied by the German government to the UK tax authorities, giving information about 300 British citizens with bank accounts in Lichtenstein. The first prosecution, based on this disc has just taken place in Germany involving Klaus Zumwinkel (a political appointee charged with the privatisation of the Post Office) He lost his job, got a two-year suspended sentence and was made to repay £2m. More than enough, I should think, to clean hundreds of moats."

That is all.

5/27/098:29 AM

Garage JoeMember

quote:
Originally posted by Smoke:
quote:
Originally posted by Garage Joe:
This is my last word on the subject as I feel it has been done to death. The following is a letter in Monday's The Grauniad....

"My congratulations to the ex-SAS personnel who obtained the disc giving full details of MPs expenses.
Could they now procure a copy of the disc, supplied by the German government to the UK tax authorities, giving information about 300 British citizens with bank accounts in Lichtenstein. The first prosecution, based on this disc has just taken place in Germany involving Klaus Zumwinkel (a political appointee charged with the privatisation of the Post Office) He lost his job, got a two-year suspended sentence and was made to repay £2m. More than enough, I should think, to clean hundreds of moats."

That is all.

It's a pity that this is your last word. I was hoping that you would, in due course, turn the spotlight on all the public service employees (especially the senior management class) who claim huge sums of money for:

unnecessary journeys (e.g first class return travel to America)

overnight allowances/five star hotel bills useless conferences, indulgent courses, 'support groups' for people who are paid enough to know better .... and so on ....

IT MAKES ME FURIOUS.

I mentioned white collar crime, local authority expense fiddles, and the black economy (No VAT if you pay me in cash) earlier Smoke.
My conclusion at the time was that if everyone on the fiddle was removed then it would leave just Anne Widecombe, Liverpool Lass, and myself to do everything.

5/27/098:44 AM

cologne 1Member Memoriam

quote:
Originally posted by Smoke:
quote:
Originally posted by Garage Joe:
quote:
Originally posted by Smoke:
quote:
Originally posted by Garage Joe:
This is my last word on the subject as I feel it has been done to death. The following is a letter in Monday's The Grauniad....

"My congratulations to the ex-SAS personnel who obtained the disc giving full details of MPs expenses.
Could they now procure a copy of the disc, supplied by the German government to the UK tax authorities, giving information about 300 British citizens with bank accounts in Lichtenstein. The first prosecution, based on this disc has just taken place in Germany involving Klaus Zumwinkel (a political appointee charged with the privatisation of the Post Office) He lost his job, got a two-year suspended sentence and was made to repay £2m. More than enough, I should think, to clean hundreds of moats."

That is all.

It's a pity that this is your last word. I was hoping that you would, in due course, turn the spotlight on all the public service employees (especially the senior management class) who claim huge sums of money for:

unnecessary journeys (e.g first class return travel to America)

overnight allowances/five star hotel bills useless conferences, indulgent courses, 'support groups' for people who are paid enough to know better .... and so on ....

IT MAKES ME FURIOUS.

I mentioned white collar crime, local authority expense fiddles, and the black economy (No VAT if you pay me in cash) earlier Smoke.
My conclusion at the time was that if everyone on the fiddle was removed then it would leave just Anne Widecombe, Liverpool Lass, and myself to do everything.

Oh: I didn't see that earlier reference.

There's a case for adding me to the list.

That would ease the workload a bit.

And me. The system has been fiddling me. I'm completely straight.

5/27/099:02 AM

captain marblesMember

I've got an overdue library book so that's me out.

5/27/099:10 AM

cologne 1Member Memoriam

quote:
Originally posted by Smoke:
So the list is:

Anne Widdecombe
Garage Joe
Liverpool Lass
Smokey
and
Cologne.

This is a great list.

We'll have to apportion roles and responsibilities.

This could be the slippery slope. Think 'Animal Farm'.

5/27/099:12 AM

Garage JoeMember

quote:
Originally posted by cologne1:
quote:
Originally posted by Smoke:
So the list is:

Anne Widdecombe
Garage Joe
Liverpool Lass
Smokey
and
Cologne.

This is a great list.

We'll have to apportion roles and responsibilities.

This could be the slippery slope. Think 'Animal Farm'.

I will work harder?

5/27/099:13 AM

cologne 1Member Memoriam

quote:
Originally posted by Garage Joe:
quote:
Originally posted by cologne1:
quote:
Originally posted by Smoke:
So the list is:

Anne Widdecombe
Garage Joe
Liverpool Lass
Smokey
and
Cologne.

This is a great list.

We'll have to apportion roles and responsibilities.

This could be the slippery slope. Think 'Animal Farm'.

I will work harder?

and the rest.

5/27/099:15 AM

LiverpoollassMember

quote:
Originally posted by Garage Joe:

I mentioned white collar crime, local authority expense fiddles, and the black economy (No VAT if you pay me in cash) earlier Smoke.
My conclusion at the time was that if everyone on the fiddle was removed then it would leave just Anne Widecombe, Liverpool Lass, and myself to do everything.

Oooh l've made a list

5/27/099:22 AM

LiverpoollassMember

quote:
Originally posted by Smoke:

You certainly have. I think you're in charge of Home Affairs.

5/27/099:34 AM

AquariusMember

Can I get on this 'ere list please?
And can I be Chancellor of Exchequer?

5/27/0910:54 AM

AquariusMember

*sits on big leather chair counting all
that money*

I'm liking this role.
Let's face it, I can't be any worse than the
present and previous incumbents.

5/27/093:08 PM

AquariusMember

quote:
Originally posted by Smoke:
quote:
Originally posted by Aquarius 11:
*sits on big leather chair counting all
that money*

I'm liking this role.
Let's face it, I can't be any worse than the
present and previous incumbents.

The idea is that we don't waste money - and we've got to be transparent. So, it's OK to sit and count money and not do anything rash.

We'll have to have a meeting - in public - when we decide what to do.

Smoke, parsimony is my middle name.

5/27/093:29 PM

LiverpoollassMember

quote:
Originally posted by Smoke:

Anne Widdecombe
Liverpool Lass (Home secretary)
Garage Joe
Me
Cologne
and Aquarius 11 as Chancellor of the Exchequer.

This is the vanguard of the new austerity.

Oooh Home Secretary, that means I will be in charge of law and order and all that

God help you all

5/27/093:32 PM

bigdaddyostrichMember

Can I be minister of, er, art?

5/27/093:32 PM

AquariusMember

quote:
Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
quote:
Originally posted by Smoke:

Anne Widdecombe
Liverpool Lass (Home secretary)
Garage Joe
Me
Cologne
and Aquarius 11 as Chancellor of the Exchequer.

This is the vanguard of the new austerity.

Oooh Home Secretary, that means I will be in charge of law and order and all that

God help you all

Are you relishing the thought LL?

Me too!

5/27/093:36 PM

cologne 1Member Memoriam

I'd like to be Minister of Reversing Policies please.

5/27/093:36 PM

LiverpoollassMember

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarius 11:

Are you relishing the thought LL?
Me too!

I have my pen and paper out as we speak

5/27/093:38 PM

AquariusMember

quote:
Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:
Can I be minister of, er, art?

Errrm....minister?
Does that mean you have a cassock?

5/27/093:38 PM

AquariusMember

quote:
Originally posted by cologne1:
I'd like to be Minister of Reversing Policies please.

You will have our full support cologne.

5/27/093:40 PM

bigdaddyostrichMember

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarius 11:
quote:
Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:
Can I be minister of, er, art?

Errrm....minister?
Does that mean you have a cassock?

I'll take 10 of 'em.

Put 'em on expenses

5/27/093:41 PM

BARMYBRUMMIE - Slickman to WIN!Member

Dearest darling speaker/PM/~~taxpayer~~

I dont mind having a back-bench job - so long
as I live in at least 2 big houses - oh and can I have a moat too?? (for parliamentary reasons) A swimming pool is a necessity also (for parliamentary reasons) - I cant live anywhere that hasnt got servants quarters... (of course I have to keep in touch with the ~~servants~~ people and... and... I like photography (it helps with my work u see - so I need to upgrade my camera every six months or so) and, erm.... there's a bit of a pond over yonder.... could do with a duck-house (even ducks vote u no) My eyesight is also quite bad so I need to have a 60" plasma in each of my houses so that I can do my parliamentary work...
I also need to employ my husband... oh yeah and my sister who lives on the other side of the world... oh AND - I dont like my place in the smoke too much - so I need to claim extortionate amounts of mileage to and from of the office.

A porno or two keeps my husbands pecker up - and I WOULD try to look squeaky clean - only I cant afford 80p for a bathplug.

Yours sincerely

An MP

PS - one has to EAT as well...

5/27/093:42 PM

AquariusMember

quote:
Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
Dearest darling speaker/PM/~~taxpayer~~

I dont mind having a back-bench job - so long
as I live in at least 2 big houses - oh and can I have a moat too?? (for parliamentary reasons) A swimming pool is a necessity also (for parliamentary reasons) - I cant live anywhere that hasnt got servants quarters... (of course I have to keep in touch with the ~~servants~~ people and... and... I like photography (it helps with my work u see - so I need to upgrade my camera every six months or so) and, erm.... there's a bit of a pond over yonder.... could do with a duck-house (even ducks vote u no) My eyesight is also quite bad so I need to have a 60" plasma in each of my houses so that I can do my parliamentary work...
I also need to employ my husband... oh yeah and my sister who lives on the other side of the world... oh AND - I dont like my place in the smoke too much - so I need to claim extortionate amounts of mileage to and from of the office.

A porno or two keeps my husbands pecker up - and I WOULD try to look squeaky clean - only I cant afford 80p for a bathplug.

Yours sincerely

An MP

PS - one has to EAT as well...

You will fit right in Barmy.

5/27/093:43 PM

cologne 1Member Memoriam

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarius 11:
quote:
Originally posted by cologne1:
I'd like to be Minister of Reversing Policies please.

You will have our full support cologne.

5/27/093:46 PM

BARMYBRUMMIE - Slickman to WIN!Member

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarius 11:
quote:
Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
Dearest darling speaker/PM/~~taxpayer~~

I dont mind having a back-bench job - so long
as I live in at least 2 big houses - oh and can I have a moat too?? (for parliamentary reasons) A swimming pool is a necessity also (for parliamentary reasons) - I cant live anywhere that hasnt got servants quarters... (of course I have to keep in touch with the ~~servants~~ people and... and... I like photography (it helps with my work u see - so I need to upgrade my camera every six months or so) and, erm.... there's a bit of a pond over yonder.... could do with a duck-house (even ducks vote u no) My eyesight is also quite bad so I need to have a 60" plasma in each of my houses so that I can do my parliamentary work...
I also need to employ my husband... oh yeah and my sister who lives on the other side of the world... oh AND - I dont like my place in the smoke too much - so I need to claim extortionate amounts of mileage to and from of the office.

A porno or two keeps my husbands pecker up - and I WOULD try to look squeaky clean - only I cant afford 80p for a bathplug.

Yours sincerely

An MP

PS - one has to EAT as well...

You will fit right in Barmy.

well I aint taking NO job without £58.00 for a salad sarnie (wot I made myself) - but pretended I bought from erm....... erm......

YOU KNOW - THAT EXPENSIVE place!

5/27/093:46 PM

cologne 1Member Memoriam

quote:
Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
quote:
Originally posted by Aquarius 11:
quote:
Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
Dearest darling speaker/PM/~~taxpayer~~

I dont mind having a back-bench job - so long
as I live in at least 2 big houses - oh and can I have a moat too?? (for parliamentary reasons) A swimming pool is a necessity also (for parliamentary reasons) - I cant live anywhere that hasnt got servants quarters... (of course I have to keep in touch with the ~~servants~~ people and... and... I like photography (it helps with my work u see - so I need to upgrade my camera every six months or so) and, erm.... there's a bit of a pond over yonder.... could do with a duck-house (even ducks vote u no) My eyesight is also quite bad so I need to have a 60" plasma in each of my houses so that I can do my parliamentary work...
I also need to employ my husband... oh yeah and my sister who lives on the other side of the world... oh AND - I dont like my place in the smoke too much - so I need to claim extortionate amounts of mileage to and from of the office.

A porno or two keeps my husbands pecker up - and I WOULD try to look squeaky clean - only I cant afford 80p for a bathplug.

Yours sincerely

An MP

PS - one has to EAT as well...

You will fit right in Barmy.

well I aint taking NO job without £58.00 for a salad sarnie (wot I made myself) - but pretended I bought from erm....... erm......

YOU KNOW - THAT EXPENSIVE place!

5/27/093:54 PM

BARMYBRUMMIE - Slickman to WIN!Member

quote:
Originally posted by cologne1:
quote:
Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
quote:
Originally posted by Aquarius 11:
quote:
Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
Dearest darling speaker/PM/~~taxpayer~~

I dont mind having a back-bench job - so long
as I live in at least 2 big houses - oh and can I have a moat too?? (for parliamentary reasons) A swimming pool is a necessity also (for parliamentary reasons) - I cant live anywhere that hasnt got servants quarters... (of course I have to keep in touch with the ~~servants~~ people and... and... I like photography (it helps with my work u see - so I need to upgrade my camera every six months or so) and, erm.... there's a bit of a pond over yonder.... could do with a duck-house (even ducks vote u no) My eyesight is also quite bad so I need to have a 60" plasma in each of my houses so that I can do my parliamentary work...
I also need to employ my husband... oh yeah and my sister who lives on the other side of the world... oh AND - I dont like my place in the smoke too much - so I need to claim extortionate amounts of mileage to and from of the office.

A porno or two keeps my husbands pecker up - and I WOULD try to look squeaky clean - only I cant afford 80p for a bathplug.

Yours sincerely

An MP

PS - one has to EAT as well...

You will fit right in Barmy.

well I aint taking NO job without £58.00 for a salad sarnie (wot I made myself) - but pretended I bought from erm....... erm......

YOU KNOW - THAT EXPENSIVE place!

my private time is YOUR money u know - I've lost count of how many 'beverages' I've had at YOUR expense 2nite - so I will just make it up (got a leccy bill not to pay on my 3rd house u see)....

5/27/093:57 PM

BARMYBRUMMIE - Slickman to WIN!Member

anyhow - sorry - I gotta phone a friend to go put the lights on in my 5th home to make it look like we live there - when in actual fact I am here in my 1st home looking for the bathplug whilst my hubby is watching something 'boring that I wouldnt like'...

niterz

(this post has cost YOU ALL lots of money lol) - one has to pay for the internet somehow

5/27/094:01 PM

AquariusMember

quote:
Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
anyhow - sorry - I gotta phone a friend to go put the lights on in my 5th home to make it look like we live there - when in actual fact I am here in my 1st home looking for the bathplug whilst my hubby is watching something 'boring that I wouldnt like'...

niterz

(this post has cost YOU ALL lots of money lol) - one has to pay for the internet somehow

That really IS milking it Barmy.

As Chancellor, I might have to have words with you.

5/27/094:18 PM

OHGsLBMember

yeah, let's get Cameron & the Eaton mafia in... it'll be great!

5/27/095:52 PM

old hippy guyMember

quote:
Originally posted by OHGsLB:
yeah, let's get Cameron & the Eaton mafia in... it'll be great!

thats my bro that is

5/27/096:39 PM

MargueritaMember

quote:
Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
Dearest darling speaker/PM/~~taxpayer~~

I dont mind having a back-bench job - so long
as I live in at least 2 big houses - oh and can I have a moat too?? (for parliamentary reasons) A swimming pool is a necessity also (for parliamentary reasons) - I cant live anywhere that hasnt got servants quarters... (of course I have to keep in touch with the ~~servants~~ people and... and... I like photography (it helps with my work u see - so I need to upgrade my camera every six months or so) and, erm.... there's a bit of a pond over yonder.... could do with a duck-house (even ducks vote u no) My eyesight is also quite bad so I need to have a 60" plasma in each of my houses so that I can do my parliamentary work...
I also need to employ my husband... oh yeah and my sister who lives on the other side of the world... oh AND - I dont like my place in the smoke too much - so I need to claim extortionate amounts of mileage to and from of the office.

A porno or two keeps my husbands pecker up - and I WOULD try to look squeaky clean - only I cant afford 80p for a bathplug.

Yours sincerely

An MP

PS - one has to EAT as well...

Ha Ha Ha LOl

5/27/096:59 PM

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