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Originally posted by Hicky:
Hi Latecomer.

Good question.

Firstly, I'm not female and not Gay, but maybe they are dressing not as females because they don't want to look attractive to men, but as dressing more as men maybe they seem more attractive to females.
Only a thought of course, could be wrong.

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Originally posted by Latecomer:

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Originally posted by Hicky:
Hi Latecomer.

Good question.

Firstly, I'm not female and not Gay, but maybe they are dressing not as females because they don't want to look attractive to men, but as dressing more as men maybe they seem more attractive to females.
Only a thought of course, could be wrong.

That` a good point Hicky, but if they`re not attracted to men in the first place, why would they try to look like men?

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Originally posted by Hicky:
I suppose we could sort this out if someone asked them.

Not me though.

And Latecomer hasn't got the nerve.

Anyone with the nerve?

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Originally posted by fairy_suzie:

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Originally posted by Hicky:
I suppose we could sort this out if someone asked them.

Not me though.

And Latecomer hasn't got the nerve.

Anyone with the nerve?

Point me in the right direction I'll ask

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Originally posted by Hicky:

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Originally posted by fairy_suzie:

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Originally posted by Hicky:
I suppose we could sort this out if someone asked them.

Not me though.

And Latecomer hasn't got the nerve.

Anyone with the nerve?

Point me in the right direction I'll ask

You Dare Devil you.
All you need now is to know who to ask.

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Originally posted by Hicky:

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Originally posted by fairy_suzie:

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Originally posted by Hicky:
I suppose we could sort this out if someone asked them.

Not me though.

And Latecomer hasn't got the nerve.

Anyone with the nerve?

Point me in the right direction I'll ask

You Dare Devil you.
All you need now is to know who to ask.

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Originally posted by fairy_suzie:
Hiya Peeps
Have got the answer back

So for Latecomer's curiousity and others who have been reading this

In the majority of cases in all relationships there is usually a dominant partner whether straight or gay. So the reason for dressing in this style is to purely express that they want to be dominant in the relationship. The same as you get gay men dressing girly they are expressing that they are looking for a dominant man. Now in latecomer's case you have 2 that are dominant. But I did say in most cases, even in straight couples you can get 2 dominant people, which in my experience with some friends doesn't usually work too well.

So in short it's to express the role they wish to take in a relationship

Hope this helps

Now there's a question Mike that could take some research Not unless someone already knows the answer

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Originally posted by fairy_suzie:

In the majority of cases in all relationships there is usually a dominant partner whether straight or gay. So the reason for dressing in this style is to purely express that they want to be dominant in the relationship. The same as you get gay men dressing girly they are expressing that they are looking for a dominant man. Now in latecomer's case you have 2 that are dominant. But I did say in most cases, even in straight couples you can get 2 dominant people, which in my experience with some friends doesn't usually work too well.

So in short it's to express the role they wish to take in a relationship

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Originally posted by Sarum:

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Originally posted by fairy_suzie:

In the majority of cases in all relationships there is usually a dominant partner whether straight or gay. So the reason for dressing in this style is to purely express that they want to be dominant in the relationship. The same as you get gay men dressing girly they are expressing that they are looking for a dominant man. Now in latecomer's case you have 2 that are dominant. But I did say in most cases, even in straight couples you can get 2 dominant people, which in my experience with some friends doesn't usually work too well.

So in short it's to express the role they wish to take in a relationship

Actually, that's a myth perpetuated by straight people, who assume that gay people's relationships follow the same rules as straight people's.
Most lesbian couples I know don't have a 'butch' and a 'femme' partner; and none of the gay men I know have that sort of division either.

The two women in Latecomer's post both have a gender expression that is in the masculine end of the spectrum. Gender expression is separate from sexual orientation (although most straight people confuse the two), which is why you can have crossdressing men who are completely straight, and men who are totally gay, but appear macho and 'straight'.

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Originally posted by Sarum:

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Originally posted by fairy_suzie:

In the majority of cases in all relationships there is usually a dominant partner whether straight or gay. So the reason for dressing in this style is to purely express that they want to be dominant in the relationship. The same as you get gay men dressing girly they are expressing that they are looking for a dominant man. Now in latecomer's case you have 2 that are dominant. But I did say in most cases, even in straight couples you can get 2 dominant people, which in my experience with some friends doesn't usually work too well.

So in short it's to express the role they wish to take in a relationship

Actually, that's a myth perpetuated by straight people, who assume that gay people's relationships follow the same rules as straight people's.
Most lesbian couples I know don't have a 'butch' and a 'femme' partner; and none of the gay men I know have that sort of division either.

The two women in Latecomer's post both have a gender expression that is in the masculine end of the spectrum. Gender expression is separate from sexual orientation (although most straight people confuse the two), which is why you can have crossdressing men who are completely straight, and men who are totally gay, but appear macho and 'straight'.

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Originally posted by Latecomer:


Hi Sarum. I remember you from the old forum.

How`s life been for you since your surgery? (Hope I`m asking the right person...)

Thanks for explaining all that, I think I understand it. (I`ve only got a little brain, lol.)
It`s certainly a lot more complex than I thought, but then human nature is certainly that isn`t it!!!

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Originally posted by *BB*:


I'm relieved you answered the question Sarum, as I was trying to put words together to make sense but failed. My daughter is lesbian, and has always dressed in a more masculine way eg. jeans, shirts etc and always wears her hair very short and not in a particularly feminine style. She just isn't interested in anything feminine such as jewelry, makeup, nice shoes, just prefers to wear trainers all the time. She's been like this ever since the start of puberty. I knew full well it has nothing to do with attracting a partner as she has never been interested in having a relationship with another woman and probably never will. It goes much deeper than that and you explained it so eloquently.

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Originally posted by Well-Wisher:
Alot of heterosexual women dress like men while
alot of lesbians don't dress like men, it's just a matter of personal taste. Men's clothes are more casual and often more practical.

Furthermore a lot of straight men like dressing up as women. Eddie Izzard is an example of a straight man who likes womens clothes.

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Originally posted by Sarum:

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Originally posted by Latecomer:


Hi Sarum. I remember you from the old forum.

How`s life been for you since your surgery? (Hope I`m asking the right person...)

Thanks for explaining all that, I think I understand it. (I`ve only got a little brain, lol.)
It`s certainly a lot more complex than I thought, but then human nature is certainly that isn`t it!!!

Hiya; yes, c'est moi.

Life is mostly good, thank you; I have had a few issues lately (old wounds, not surgery-related) but I'm getting on top of them.

And yes; humans are complicated, especially when it comes to sex and gender. It's not as polarised as most people seem to think it is

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Originally posted by MikeOxlong:
I have another that has always puzzled me but have never had the nerve to ask.
I hope that any black forum members will not be offended by my question as none is intended.
My memory went back to the only black car I have ever owned - a 1968 Ford Corsair.
It was absolutely unbearable to be in during the summer-the colour just soaked up the heat like a sponge.
I am sure anyone who has owned a car with black leather/vinyl seats will know about how hot they get and how painful they can be to sit on once warmed through by the sun!.
So my question relates to black skin.
Is it necessary to take as much care re: sunburn as white skin or even more so?
And where white skin can go red and peel - does black skin just get darker or can it also peel?
Many thanks in advance for your answers!

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Originally posted by Mike Strutter:
Why have all the Grey Foreigner Squirrels killed off the Natural Red Squirrels....???

Can we have a RED SQUIRREL NATIONAL PARTY ?????