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Originally posted by RZB:

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we've a Banksy in Liverpool near china town, when i first moved over here i was like " urgh, you would think they'd paint over that" .. duh!!

I went on a tour of his work in his home town of Bristol recently, I'm fascinated by him.

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His stuff is pretty cool, my housemate bought the book - is he still 'underground'?

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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
Oh bum!

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Originally posted by Perones:

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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
Oh bum!

language! well really...

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
Even worse are the people who try to find 'the meaning' of this crap art...WTF...idiots! Lol!

*cancels post discussing the post modern irony of this particular memento mori *

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Originally posted by Cheeky-Pixie:

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Originally posted by Mummy Maz:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
You do the artist's work for him.
He said he wanted to provoke.
Why don't you just ignore it?

was only asking fgs! conversation and debate is usually welcomed in forums!

My sentiments exactly Maz

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Originally posted by carotino:
You'll live.

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Originally posted by Cagney:
I swear if I see Jade bloody Goody one more time I'm gonna scream. I'm gonna stand and protest at her bloody musical too

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Originally posted by ilovewillyoung:
I think its sick really sick

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Originally posted by ilovewillyoung:
I think its sick really sick

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Originally posted by ilovewillyoung:
I think its sick really sick

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Originally posted by JasmineJ:
Art is just a word.
I don’t think the ‘piece’ is a thing of beauty, I don’t find it pleasing in any way – I’m a traditionalist, I like stuff which makes you think jeez I wish I could draw/paint/sculpt like that.

Much of the yba’s work is about hype and only hype, some people will call it lazy and uninspiring, whilst it will make others feel superior because they think they get it - either way the value of this dudes ‘work’ goes up.

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Originally posted by atomrose:
Is this art?

The answer to that question depends upon what you consider to be the definition of 'art'.
How do you descibe art. Can anyone?
Art would seem to be a form of expression, it can come in myriad guises and forms,it has no boundaries, it can be brutal or kind, it obeys no rules, it may ask no questions or it may provide no answers, it can be beautiful or grotesque, it asks nothing other than to be acknowleged, it can make you laugh or make you cry, it can empty your heart or fill your soul, it has no practical use and has no intrinsic value and as such it is what seperates human beings from every other living thing on the planet, maybe, I rambled a bit there.

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:

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Originally posted by atomrose:
Is this art?

The answer to that question depends upon what you consider to be the definition of 'art'.
How do you descibe art. Can anyone?
Art would seem to be a form of expression, it can come in myriad guises and forms,it has no boundaries, it can be brutal or kind, it obeys no rules, it may ask no questions or it may provide no answers, it can be beautiful or grotesque, it asks nothing other than to be acknowleged, it can make you laugh or make you cry, it can empty your heart or fill your soul, it has no practical use and has no intrinsic value and as such it is what seperates human beings from every other living thing on the planet, maybe, I rambled a bit there.

I have to agree with your post despite the fact I feel that some artists and/or their promoters use this as justification to take the proverbial e.g unmade bed, pile of bricks etc.

So if I accept your definition (which I find it difficult not to) do I have to accept a pile of bricks as being art as opposed to building materials ?

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Originally posted by atomrose:

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:

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Originally posted by atomrose:
Is this art?

The answer to that question depends upon what you consider to be the definition of 'art'.
How do you descibe art. Can anyone?
Art would seem to be a form of expression, it can come in myriad guises and forms,it has no boundaries, it can be brutal or kind, it obeys no rules, it may ask no questions or it may provide no answers, it can be beautiful or grotesque, it asks nothing other than to be acknowleged, it can make you laugh or make you cry, it can empty your heart or fill your soul, it has no practical use and has no intrinsic value and as such it is what seperates human beings from every other living thing on the planet, maybe, I rambled a bit there.

I have to agree with your post despite the fact I feel that some artists and/or their promoters use this as justification to take the proverbial e.g unmade bed, pile of bricks etc.

So if I accept your definition (which I find it difficult not to) do I have to accept a pile of bricks as being art as opposed to building materials ?

I have to agree with what you say. I would go further and suggest that so called 'modern art' is a form of elitism. In homes up and down the country we have people with works of art in their homes, prints of paintings from Monet, Jack Vetrianno and countless others, the so called traditional stuff. Now imagine yourself to be some arty type who sees the working class enjoying art, not good for the elite image, for elitism is for the favoured few and to preserve this they must appreciate something that they know 99.9% of the population will consider rubbish, unmade bed, blue tac on a wall, light switch going on and off, sheep in formaldahyde,
and coupled to it is the emporers new clothes syndrome, if you dont see it, you are a fool.
As a footnote, Andy Warhol was asked for his definition of art, his reply "whatever you can get away with "

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:

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Originally posted by atomrose:

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:

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Originally posted by atomrose:
Is this art?

The answer to that question depends upon what you consider to be the definition of 'art'.
How do you descibe art. Can anyone?
Art would seem to be a form of expression, it can come in myriad guises and forms,it has no boundaries, it can be brutal or kind, it obeys no rules, it may ask no questions or it may provide no answers, it can be beautiful or grotesque, it asks nothing other than to be acknowleged, it can make you laugh or make you cry, it can empty your heart or fill your soul, it has no practical use and has no intrinsic value and as such it is what seperates human beings from every other living thing on the planet, maybe, I rambled a bit there.

I have to agree with your post despite the fact I feel that some artists and/or their promoters use this as justification to take the proverbial e.g unmade bed, pile of bricks etc.

So if I accept your definition (which I find it difficult not to) do I have to accept a pile of bricks as being art as opposed to building materials ?

I have to agree with what you say. I would go further and suggest that so called 'modern art' is a form of elitism. In homes up and down the country we have people with works of art in their homes, prints of paintings from Monet, Jack Vetrianno and countless others, the so called traditional stuff. Now imagine yourself to be some arty type who sees the working class enjoying art, not good for the elite image, for elitism is for the favoured few and to preserve this they must appreciate something that they know 99.9% of the population will consider rubbish, unmade bed, blue tac on a wall, light switch going on and off, sheep in formaldahyde,
and coupled to it is the emporers new clothes syndrome, if you dont see it, you are a fool.
As a footnote, Andy Warhol was asked for his definition of art, his reply "whatever you can get away with "

You've summed it up perfectly, and lol @ the Warhol quote, wasn't familiar with that one.

On a semi related note, ever saw the Tony Hancock movie calld The Rebel ?

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
On a semi related note, ever saw the Tony Hancock movie calld The Rebel ?

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Originally posted by RZB:
More like bad taste to me.

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Originally posted by atomrose:

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:

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Originally posted by atomrose:

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:

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Originally posted by atomrose:
Is this art?

The answer to that question depends upon what you consider to be the definition of 'art'.
How do you descibe art. Can anyone?
Art would seem to be a form of expression, it can come in myriad guises and forms,it has no boundaries, it can be brutal or kind, it obeys no rules, it may ask no questions or it may provide no answers, it can be beautiful or grotesque, it asks nothing other than to be acknowleged, it can make you laugh or make you cry, it can empty your heart or fill your soul, it has no practical use and has no intrinsic value and as such it is what seperates human beings from every other living thing on the planet, maybe, I rambled a bit there.

I have to agree with your post despite the fact I feel that some artists and/or their promoters use this as justification to take the proverbial e.g unmade bed, pile of bricks etc.

So if I accept your definition (which I find it difficult not to) do I have to accept a pile of bricks as being art as opposed to building materials ?

I have to agree with what you say. I would go further and suggest that so called 'modern art' is a form of elitism. In homes up and down the country we have people with works of art in their homes, prints of paintings from Monet, Jack Vetrianno and countless others, the so called traditional stuff. Now imagine yourself to be some arty type who sees the working class enjoying art, not good for the elite image, for elitism is for the favoured few and to preserve this they must appreciate something that they know 99.9% of the population will consider rubbish, unmade bed, blue tac on a wall, light switch going on and off, sheep in formaldahyde,
and coupled to it is the emporers new clothes syndrome, if you dont see it, you are a fool.
As a footnote, Andy Warhol was asked for his definition of art, his reply "whatever you can get away with "

You've summed it up perfectly, and lol @ the Warhol quote, wasn't familiar with that one.

On a semi related note, ever saw the Tony Hancock movie calld The Rebel ?

Was that the one where he was the artist who went to France or somewhere, churning out his 2 minute masterpieces.

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Originally posted by Syd:

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
On a semi related note, ever saw the Tony Hancock movie calld The Rebel ?

Great film..