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Originally posted by Poolshark:
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
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Originally posted by Poolshark:
I thought I would give the programme another go so started watching it on 4 plus 1, so strange seeing so many places in Notts on the telly, loads of places I have walked along.


Not sure what's going on with your posts here poolshark..and maybe your justifiably/understandably defended, in which case I apologise in advance...but don't you think you're kinda missing the point?!?


I totally understand the point of the programme and the message it is trying to tell, but I just thought I would mention that it was strange seeing my city on the telly being Notts bloke myself and living here, obviously that was part of the reason as well why I wanted to watch this programme, we in Notts are very proud of Samantha Morton.


Ok, like I said apologies in advance, maybe 'strikes home more when you can see that it's happenig right on your doorstep
FM
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Thinking that was v well done...more concentration on the way the poor mite was feeling


I know that was what I was left feeling.....taken from one 'BAD' situation and 'THROWN' into another.........without an outstretched hand, a caring glance, one of a number logged onto a piece of paper.....at the age of 16/18 the paper is ripped up..(but kept on file) incase the number turns out bad....
Syd
Crikey.. that was a tough watch. She really captured the sense of how alone Lucy was. The little girl who played her, Molly Windsor, was incredibly good.

I see Sam Morton used Nottingham as the back drop. Weird to see all the old Notts places like Arnold, Broadmarsh, Vicky Centre, Slab Square, Mansfield Road and The Park. She made Notts appear really stark.
tupps
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Originally posted by tupps:
Crikey.. that was a tough watch. She really captured the sense of how alone Lucy was. The little girl who played her, Molly Windsor, was incredibly good.

I see Sam Morton used Nottingham as the back drop. Weird to see all the old Notts places like Arnold, Broadmarsh, Vicky Centre, Slab Square, Mansfield Road and The Park. She made Notts appear really stark.


They must have filmed this last October because the Goose Fair was on it, I live near there,. How come you know loads od Nottingham places, was you from here?
Poolshark
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Originally posted by Poolshark:
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Originally posted by tupps:
Crikey.. that was a tough watch. She really captured the sense of how alone Lucy was. The little girl who played her, Molly Windsor, was incredibly good.

I see Sam Morton used Nottingham as the back drop. Weird to see all the old Notts places like Arnold, Broadmarsh, Vicky Centre, Slab Square, Mansfield Road and The Park. She made Notts appear really stark.


They must have filmed this last October because the Goose Fair was on it, I live near there,. How come you know loads od Nottingham places, was you from here?


Yep Nod
tupps
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Does anyone know what 'saved her'/ gave her a sense of resilience/ showed belief so that she did so well? Someone like Queenshak in her life ???


By all accounts it was Central Television's childrens workshop that 'saved' her.. she started the freebie acting classes there and the rest is history.
tupps
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Originally posted by Syd:
So many kids fall by they wayside tho,

left me feeling....What can I do?..


Loads of us do our v v best Syd...all the evidence shows that what makes the difference in the long run is someone, just one person.... who truly loves, believes, encourages, sticks with it and never rejects/gives up....sounds easy doesn't it????
FM
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
[QUOTE]sounds easy doesn't it????


I know Super, Its not easy, and I may be wrong in thinking this but.....People who are 'Caring' for children, should be free from paperwork, bureaucracy, let an administrator deal with that in an office that a child never enters....

The programme tonight showed a child being put into a system with people that.........were not caring..

Fair enough there will be lower paid staff..giving meals, cleaning rooms, playing games...who 'keep a look out'

But where are the University Educated People? earning the main money and expenses?
Syd
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Originally posted by Barolo:
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Originally posted by Syd:
So many kids fall by they wayside tho,

left me feeling....What can I do?..


When the present NSPCC adverts first came out, I felt the same - I felt compelled to do something, even though a little, but I like to think it helps.


Don't let me go on a multiple rant here BUT NSPCC.....arrgh, Angry know a few really good people who work for them BUT much of that bloody money people give goes into strategists/managers/ad campaigns/hotel and expenses bills etc.... Not knocking the need for strategy and management, but know sooo many great people who worked for them and left to return to local authority work 'cos they were so disgusted in how the public donations were being spent. Why oh why do people think that they are the 'saviours' and knock people who work in local authorities? My advice, for what it's worth is, if you're going to donate, give it to Barnados or Action for Children who actually do work with kids....NSPCC do v little direct work these days
FM
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Originally posted by Syd:
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
[QUOTE]sounds easy doesn't it????


I know Super, Its not easy, and I may be wrong in thinking you're sooooo not this but.....People who are 'Caring' for children, should be free from paperwork, bureaucracy, let an administrator deal with that in an office that a child never enters.... Nod Nod Nod

The programme tonight showed a child being put into a system with people that.........were not caring.. Nod

Fair enough there will be lower paid staff..giving meals, cleaning rooms, playing games...who 'keep a look out' They in my experience, are often the most caring- the ones who really love the kids

But where are the University Educated People? earning the main money and expenses?
Well, guess that's me!
FM
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Originally posted by Essex Angel:
One thing has alway's bothered me about the NSPCC, we are building contractors, we had a friend who was also a contractor, he bought 13000 pounds worth of 2nd hand carpet for his home for ÂĢ500 from an NSPCC office, it was 2 months old and the head off the office didn't like the colour.


Oi you...I said don't let me go on a rant about NSPCC Laugh but you're right Shake Head Shake Head
FM
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
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Originally posted by Barolo:
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Originally posted by Syd:
So many kids fall by they wayside tho,

left me feeling....What can I do?..


When the present NSPCC adverts first came out, I felt the same - I felt compelled to do something, even though a little, but I like to think it helps.


Don't let me go on a multiple rant here BUT NSPCC.....arrgh, Angry know a few really good people who work for them BUT much of that bloody money people give goes into strategists/managers/ad campaigns/hotel and expenses bills etc.... Not knocking the need for strategy and management, but know sooo many great people who worked for them and left to return to local authority work 'cos they were so disgusted in how the public donations were being spent. Why oh why do people think that they are the 'saviours' and knock people who work in local authorities? My advice, for what it's worth is, if you're going to donate, give it to Barnados or Action for Children who actually do work with kids....NSPCC do v little direct work these days


I realised that the money the NSPCC receive must go on other things apart from the kids - the cost of those adverts alone must have cost thousands! It's the same with a great many of these so-called charitable institutions - half the time they exist not to serve the purpose for which they were originally founded, but to keep their administrators/managers in a very comfortable lifestyle. I am very careful and selective when making donations!

The adverts did, however, make me think and question!
Barolo
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Originally posted by Syd:
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Well, guess that's me!



Super I am not being 'Personal', but it is a question that I need to ask...xxxxx


Would really love to answer Syd, but need to keep myself 'internet safe'..... let's say that some people don't exactly love me for some of my work (not the kids!)..and there's been some pretty hideous comments made about people who work in this and related fields, (though understandable given the red-top press coverage.)... If you're really interested in where I'm coming from then look at some of my previous posts- not the ones about bath products LOL! Just glad to have the opportunity on here to put another perspective on what so many people see as the 'uncaring' caring professions....
FM
Can I just say my brother suffers with Schizophrenia, he's had Social workers for more years than I care to remember, from early childhood until now in his 40's. He had a fantastic Social worker a few years ago 'Roz' she lost her job because she cared too much, she got too involved with her cases. The woman was worth her weight in gold. She has now set herself up privately advising people. She still keeps in touch with me and recently helped me enormously with legal advice when I had to attend a mental health tribunal because his existing Cnut of a social worker prefers to have her cases sectioned. I won by the way thanks to 'Roz'
E
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Originally posted by Barolo

I realised that the money the NSPCC receive must go on other things apart from the kids - the cost of those adverts alone must have cost thousands! It's the same with a great many of these so-called charitable institutions - half the time they exist not to serve the purpose for which they were originally founded, but to keep their administrators/managers in a very comfortable lifestyle. I am very careful and selective when making donations!

The adverts did, however, make me think and question!


Absolutely... just get a bit cross when people think that their tenner a month or so is going to directly work with kids/families , which is what so many people believe. To be fair, however, they are doing good stuff re raising public awareness and giving the message that it's everyone's business..just think that the money could be better spent elsewhere for the most part.
FM
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Originally posted by Essex Angel:
Can I just say my brother suffers with Schizophrenia, he's had Social workers for more years than I care to remember, from early childhood until now in his 40's. He had a fantastic Social worker a few years ago 'Roz' she lost her job because she cared too much, she got too involved with her cases. The woman was worth her weight in gold. She has now set herself up privately advising people. She still keeps in touch with me and recently helped me enormously with legal advice when I had to attend a mental health tribunal because his existing Cnut of a social worker prefers to have her cases sectioned. I won by the way thanks to 'Roz'


Great to hear a Happy story....Shame that Roz lost her job for caring to much, most probably did'nt spend enough time filling in the correct forms.
Syd
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Originally posted by Essex Angel:
Can I just say my brother suffers with Schizophrenia, he's had Social workers for more years than I care to remember, from early childhood until now in his 40's. He had a fantastic Social worker a few years ago 'Roz' she lost her job because she cared too much, she got too involved with her cases. The woman was worth her weight in gold. She has now set herself up privately advising people. She still keeps in touch with me and recently helped me enormously with legal advice when I had to attend a mental health tribunal because his existing Cnut of a social worker prefers to have her cases sectioned. I won by the way thanks to 'Roz'


Go Roz Thumbs Up
FM
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
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Originally posted by Essex Angel:
Can I just say my brother suffers with Schizophrenia, he's had Social workers for more years than I care to remember, from early childhood until now in his 40's. He had a fantastic Social worker a few years ago 'Roz' she lost her job because she cared too much, she got too involved with her cases. The woman was worth her weight in gold. She has now set herself up privately advising people. She still keeps in touch with me and recently helped me enormously with legal advice when I had to attend a mental health tribunal because his existing Cnut of a social worker prefers to have her cases sectioned. I won by the way thanks to 'Roz'


Go Roz Thumbs Up


Honestly she's a sight to behold, she's late 50's with pink hair down to her waist, she wears a multi coloured knitted Tam O Shanter and rides a bike, she once turned up to a an important tribunal wearing lime green satin ballroom dancing shoes with bicycle clips on her rainbow tights. Her legal knowledge about mental health issues is astounding.All the time she was helping me both her parents had Alzheimer’s and she was also their carer. Such a remarkable woman.
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Originally posted by Essex Angel:


Honestly she's a sight to behold, she's late 50's with pink hair down to her waist, she wears a multi coloured knitted Tam O Shanter and rides a bike, she once turned up to a an important tribunal wearing lime green satin ballroom dancing shoes with bicycle clips on her rainbow tights. Her legal knowledge about mental health issues is astounding.All the time she was helping me both her parents had Alzheimer’s and she was also their care. Such a remarkable woman.


Now that's social work as I knew it!...Should this be in the nostalgia thread LOL! Go Roz..Go Roz... Go girl! Laugh
FM
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Originally posted by Essex Angel:


Honestly she's a sight to behold, she's late 50's with pink hair down to her waist, she wears a multi coloured knitted Tam O Shanter and rides a bike, she once turned up to a an important tribunal wearing lime green satin ballroom dancing shoes with bicycle clips on her rainbow tights. Her legal knowledge about mental health issues is astounding.All the time she was helping me both her parents had Alzheimer’s and she was also their carer. Such a remarkable woman.


Get Trcy Princess in this thread...ave it!
FM

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