quote:Originally posted by fabienne:
Revenge is part of punishment, though. Maybe you're right, and people should be allowed out after a certain age.
quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
I think that there are some criminals that should never be let out - ever.
Not for illness, age or any other consideration.
Some because their crimes are so unacceptable that life should mean life and some because the impulses that led them to commit the crimes can never be neutralised by punishment, therapy etc
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quote:Originally posted by fabienne:
Have to confess, I would probably let out a lot of criminals if they weren't a danger any more.
My only concern is that they should be treated equally, and not just because they've got some kind of 'celeb' status as with Ronnie. Bless him, he obviously isn't a danger anymore, but that could go for lots of guys incarcerated for life.
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by fabienne:
Have to confess, I would probably let out a lot of criminals if they weren't a danger any more.
My only concern is that they should be treated equally, and not just because they've got some kind of 'celeb' status as with Ronnie. Bless him, he obviously isn't a danger anymore, but that could go for lots of guys incarcerated for life.
The thing is, imagine that this person has murdered someone you love and is jailed. He serves some time in jail and then because he is old and deemed not capable of harming anyone now, he is released. How would you feel? I would want the person who did that crime to remain in jail for the rest of his/her miserable life. That may not bring my loved one back, but it would certainly be justice for them.
quote:Originally posted by fabienne:
Yes, in those circumstances, I would have no mercy... although I have heard of relatives of victims who have found it in their hearts to forgive. I guess you never know unless it happens ... and hopefully we'll never be in that situation.
quote:Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:
the man is nearly at deaths door I think he should be released now
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Ronnie is innocent and a lovely man. He just loved trains and wanted to help out at the engine. Leave him alone!
quote:Originally posted by chilligrape:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Ronnie is innocent and a lovely man. He just loved trains and wanted to help out at the engine. Leave him alone!
He's not innocent! He took part in the robbery, and it wasn't cos he loved trains...it was because he knew an ex train driver, who it turned out, couldn't drive the diesel ones.
I think he should be let out now, waste of taxpayers money to keep him in, if he'd of abused a kid, or stabbed an innocent kid in the street, he'd of got half the sentance he recieved. I don't blame him for escaping when faced with 30 years in jail.
not at you chilligrape, at the situationquote:Originally posted by sciencewasrobbed:quote:Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:
the man is nearly at deaths door I think he should be released now
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I wish that the powers were as stringent with other criminals. I don't mind them keeping him in until he dies but I wish that they would do the same with certain other criminals whom I would not dare name TBH.
quote:Originally posted by Bagel Queen:
best let brady and the like out then, coz for sure it will set a precedent
). Biggs and Brady are not in the same category at all. Not saying Biggs should be released as I don't really know how I feel about that tbh.quote:Originally posted by Bagel Queen:quote:Originally posted by chilligrape:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Ronnie is innocent and a lovely man. He just loved trains and wanted to help out at the engine. Leave him alone!
He's not innocent! He took part in the robbery, and it wasn't cos he loved trains...it was because he knew an ex train driver, who it turned out, couldn't drive the diesel ones.
I think he should be let out now, waste of taxpayers money to keep him in, if he'd of abused a kid, or stabbed an innocent kid in the street, he'd of got half the sentance he recieved. I don't blame him for escaping when faced with 30 years in jail.
you obviously dont get daniels humour, sorry am PMSL here
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Ronnie is innocent and a lovely man. He just loved trains and wanted to help out at the engine. Leave him alone!
