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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:

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Originally posted by Aimee:
i've left her and i'm sleeping on a mates floor, daughter *my poor dad* yeah right, i already know his new g/friends name

You've left her? Why

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Originally posted by Aimee:

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Originally posted by Deegs:

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Originally posted by Aimee:
......would you have let her go?

Are you kidding? Not in this lifetime!

You wouldn't have known a moment's peace worrying your guts out about her. And with good reason, from what you're saying about her flaky Dad.

just getting non friend/familys view

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Originally posted by Aimee

in what way?

me and daughters dad spilt up in 1998

relationship with other guy 2002 and they didn't know each other up until last year

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Originally posted by Aimee:

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Originally posted by Soozy woo:
sounds like a complete idiot ,,,,it'd probably come to nothing anyway. tell him that you're daughter hasn't got a passport and leave it up to him ....if he is bothered about going through all the rigmarole of getting her a passport .............then - think again.

put the ball into his court .......then he cannot blame you.

his plans never do he can't do anything about a passport without my permission

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:

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Originally posted by Aimee

in what way?

me and daughters dad spilt up in 1998

relationship with other guy 2002 and they didn't know each other up until last year

Because you are telling her that they are both bad people, but you chose to have an intimate relationship with them and had a child with one of them- her dad

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Originally posted by Deegs:

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Originally posted by Aimee:

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Originally posted by Deegs:

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Originally posted by Aimee:
......would you have let her go?

Are you kidding? Not in this lifetime!

You wouldn't have known a moment's peace worrying your guts out about her. And with good reason, from what you're saying about her flaky Dad.

just getting non friend/familys view

Are you saying you don't like me?!

You don't need anyone's view. You've instinctively got it bang on yourself You know what's right for your daughter and, from what I've seen, you seem to be a brilliant Mum.

Just get her a little something nice (in a few days) to make her feel guilty for ignoring you

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Originally posted by Aimee:

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:

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Originally posted by Aimee

in what way?

me and daughters dad spilt up in 1998

relationship with other guy 2002 and they didn't know each other up until last year

Because you are telling her that they are both bad people, but you chose to have an intimate relationship with them and had a child with one of them- her dad

seeing as she has seen her dad beating me up, i don't think she needed me to tell her

lets leave it at that

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:

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Originally posted by Aimee:

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:

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Originally posted by Aimee

in what way?

me and daughters dad spilt up in 1998

relationship with other guy 2002 and they didn't know each other up until last year

Because you are telling her that they are both bad people, but you chose to have an intimate relationship with them and had a child with one of them- her dad

seeing as she has seen her dad beating me up, i don't think she needed me to tell her

lets leave it at that

I'm not saying that either of their behaviour is acceptable, far from it, or that you should allow her to go on holiday with them, just that it must be confusing for her, sorry if you don't want to hear that

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would you have let her go?

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:

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Originally posted by Aimee:

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:

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Originally posted by Aimee

in what way?

me and daughters dad spilt up in 1998

relationship with other guy 2002 and they didn't know each other up until last year

Because you are telling her that they are both bad people, but you chose to have an intimate relationship with them and had a child with one of them- her dad

seeing as she has seen her dad beating me up, i don't think she needed me to tell her

lets leave it at that

I'm not saying that either of their behaviour is acceptable, far from it, or that you should allow her to go on holiday with them, just that it must be confusing for her, sorry if you don't want to hear that

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Originally posted by slimfern:

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:

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Originally posted by Aimee:

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:

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Originally posted by Aimee

in what way?

me and daughters dad spilt up in 1998

relationship with other guy 2002 and they didn't know each other up until last year

Because you are telling her that they are both bad people, but you chose to have an intimate relationship with them and had a child with one of them- her dad

seeing as she has seen her dad beating me up, i don't think she needed me to tell her

lets leave it at that

I'm not saying that either of their behaviour is acceptable, far from it, or that you should allow her to go on holiday with them, just that it must be confusing for her, sorry if you don't want to hear that

I don't think Aimee entered those relationships knowing that these blokes were bad..like alot of woman and men..relationships GO bad.

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Originally posted by Aimee:


i just don't get what you mean by confusing for her

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Originally posted by Aimee:

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Originally posted by slimfern:

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:

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Originally posted by Aimee:

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:

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Originally posted by Aimee

in what way?

me and daughters dad spilt up in 1998

relationship with other guy 2002 and they didn't know each other up until last year

Because you are telling her that they are both bad people, but you chose to have an intimate relationship with them and had a child with one of them- her dad

seeing as she has seen her dad beating me up, i don't think she needed me to tell her

lets leave it at that

I'm not saying that either of their behaviour is acceptable, far from it, or that you should allow her to go on holiday with them, just that it must be confusing for her, sorry if you don't want to hear that

I don't think Aimee entered those relationships knowing that these blokes were bad..like alot of woman and men..relationships GO bad.

i seriously don't understand what they are on about the other bloke never even met my daughter until the tried to break in

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Originally posted by slimfern


I don't think Aimee entered those relationships knowing that these blokes were bad..like alot of woman and men..relationships GO bad.

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Originally posted by slimfern:

I think the inference is that Aimee may be confused cos at one time these men were okay and now they are not...life hun..pay no heed..

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:

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Originally posted by slimfern:

I think the inference is that Aimee may be confused cos at one time these men were okay and now they are not...life hun..pay no heed..

No, the inference is that half of her identity is this nasty/selfish piece of work ..pay no heed of that at your peril

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by slimfern:
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my Pay no heed comment was aimed at your reply..QUOTE]
Yes, I was perfectly aware of that....and my reply was about the fact that no matter how much of a shit her dad turned out to be to Aimee that, at a crucial stage of her daughter's development and identity formation, she has to make sense of all of that whilst knowing that he is 'half of her'

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Originally posted by slimfern:

Which I'm sure Aimee is well aware of..and the other chap?
you seem to have backtracked a bit there because you started out by saying she chose to enter a relationship with these men and so they must have been okay at some point and then they weren't thus confusing the daughter and then when Aims said she hadn't introduced the 2nd chap you then concentrated on the violent dad.

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:

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Originally posted by slimfern:

Which I'm sure Aimee is well aware of..and the other chap?
you seem to have backtracked a bit there because you started out by saying she chose to enter a relationship with these men and so they must have been okay at some point and then they weren't thus confusing the daughter and then when Aims said she hadn't introduced the 2nd chap you then concentrated on the violent dad.

FGS I'm not backtracking at all..her dad was and is the most important hence the emphasis. The other guy is important in that her mum chose to have a relationship with him and he turned out to be scary. I never said either of them were ok at any point. I'm trying to say, (obviously not very well!) that her mum made a judgement that they were ok and then found out otherwise..surely that makes a 15 year old at her stage of identity,trying to make her own decisions, somewhat confused?

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Originally posted by slimfern:

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:

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Originally posted by Aimee:

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:

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Originally posted by Aimee

in what way?

me and daughters dad spilt up in 1998

relationship with other guy 2002 and they didn't know each other up until last year

Because you are telling her that they are both bad people, but you chose to have an intimate relationship with them and had a child with one of them- her dad

seeing as she has seen her dad beating me up, i don't think she needed me to tell her

lets leave it at that

I'm not saying that either of their behaviour is acceptable, far from it, or that you should allow her to go on holiday with them, just that it must be confusing for her, sorry if you don't want to hear that

I don't think Aimee entered those relationships knowing that these blokes were bad..like alot of woman and men..relationships GO bad.

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Originally posted by Aimee:
update

have spoke to daughter again this morning and have told her my concerns and reasons for saying NO and she accepts my decisons and after sleeping on it she agrees

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Originally posted by slimfern:

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Originally posted by Aimee:
update

have spoke to daughter again this morning and have told her my concerns and reasons for saying NO and she accepts my decisons and after sleeping on it she agrees

Good news Aims..

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
Thats a result!

No tears, no tantrums...well done.

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Originally posted by Aimee:
update

have spoke to daughter again this morning and have told her my concerns and reasons for saying NO and she accepts my decisons and after sleeping on it she agrees

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Originally posted by Aimee:
update

have spoke to daughter again this morning and have told her my concerns and reasons for saying NO and she accepts my decisons and after sleeping on it she agrees

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Originally posted by Aimee:
update

have spoke to daughter again this morning and have told her my concerns and reasons for saying NO and she accepts my decisons and after sleeping on it she agrees

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Originally posted by Aimee:
update

have spoke to daughter again this morning and have told her my concerns and reasons for saying NO and she accepts my decisons and after sleeping on it she agrees