quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Kris's cock is safely up there already to protect him.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by CaptVimes:Exactly, when in any controversial situation he gurns inanely and pretends he doesnt understand and everything is fluffy and wonderful.quote:Originally posted by kattymieoww:
Daft Charlie sits there with a wide eyed look etc.Not falling for his act at all he's in Knobends' pocket! literally.
Like heck you dont Charlie.
But more and more people are falling for it, he's going to win BB10, I just know it.
They may be falling for it in the house but we`re not and we vote for the winner.
Charlie has no chance of winning it.
quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Miss_S:
I'm so glad he has a few people on his side - Siavash and Marcus at least.
Siavash is coming across very well in his ability to not take sides and yet still show his support for freddie ...
I agree, he is being a great HM, I was really imoressed by the way he handled Dogface, Sree and Karly when they asked him who he wanted to stay... he showed his loyalty to Freddie without upsetting Sree.
quote:Originally posted by stephsparkle:quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Miss_S:
I'm so glad he has a few people on his side - Siavash and Marcus at least.
Siavash is coming across very well in his ability to not take sides and yet still show his support for freddie ...
I agree, he is being a great HM, I was really imoressed by the way he handled Dogface, Sree and Karly when they asked him who he wanted to stay... he showed his loyalty to Freddie without upsetting Sree.
Smooth Operator
I understand that no-one wants to make themselves a target for nomination, but I wish they would be a bit more vocal in their support of Freddy.
Personally I cannot stand Freddie, to be honest I cannot stand any of them, horrible bunch.
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
I understand that no-one wants to make themselves a target for nomination, but I wish they would be a bit more vocal in their support of Freddy.
I know how you feel LL, but it some ways, it's better this way. When Lisa (or was it Karly, one of the idiots anyway) was in the DR, they seemed a bit oblivious as to how close Freddie and Siavash are. If they think Freddie is a loner that makes him an easy target, but if they are so busy picking on him, they wont realise that Siavash and Marcus (and with a bit of luck Noirin, if Marcus can win her round) have got the knives out for them until its too late.
It's hard on Freddie, but he is strong!
quote:Originally posted by stephsparkle:
I know how you feel LL, but it some ways, it's better this way. When Lisa (or was it Karly, one of the idiots anyway) was in the DR, they seemed a bit oblivious as to how close Freddie and Siavash are. If they think Freddie is a loner that makes him an easy target, but if they are so busy picking on him, they wont realise that Siavash and Marcus (and with a bit of luck Noirin, if Marcus can win her round) have got the knives out for them until its too late.
It's hard on Freddie, but he is strong!
He is showing an amazing strength of character
I doubt if I could if I was in there going through what he is going through.
I really wish Freddie would read body language a bit better tho. .I have a feeling he is constantly asking them what their problems are with him not just the bits we see on the HL show..
asking once or twice fair enough but banging on about something will get anybody's mettle up if they don't want to go there or answer him. he needs to learn when to back off sometimes too I think... and that's just my observations from the bits we see on the HL's. . he takes it too far with the 'yeah but why' stuff..
We don't know what is going on for most of the time in there.. which is a shame as it could turn out that he IS a right pain in the arse.. (he drives me bonkers after a short time tbh) still doesn't excuse the way the others are dealing with it all tho..
asking once or twice fair enough but banging on about something will get anybody's mettle up if they don't want to go there or answer him. he needs to learn when to back off sometimes too I think... and that's just my observations from the bits we see on the HL's. . he takes it too far with the 'yeah but why' stuff..
We don't know what is going on for most of the time in there.. which is a shame as it could turn out that he IS a right pain in the arse.. (he drives me bonkers after a short time tbh) still doesn't excuse the way the others are dealing with it all tho..
quote:Originally posted by Shar:
He's not playing the victim ... but he is being singled out and picked on ...
I think most people who like Freddie will agree with that Shar, but the playing the victim bit is the accusation being flung at him by all those who dislike him.
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
But more and more people are falling for it, he's going to win BB10, I just know it.
I think you are right. Even though Freddy is fav to win atm (I think), I don't think BB want him to win
They didn't want Rachel to win either LL
quote:Originally posted by Mount Olympus:
I really wish Freddie would read body language a bit better tho. .I have a feeling he is constantly asking them what their problems are with him not just the bits we see on the HL show..
asking once or twice fair enough but banging on about something will get anybody's mettle up if they don't want to go there or answer him. he needs to learn when to back off sometimes too I think... and that's just my observations from the bits we see on the HL's. . he takes it too far with the 'yeah but why' stuff..
We don't know what is going on for most of the time in there.. which is a shame as it could turn out that he IS a right pain in the arse.. (he drives me bonkers after a short time tbh) still doesn't excuse the way the others are dealing with it all tho..
Hmm, I kind of agree and Siavash said as much to Freddie in the HL show last night, saying he should back off sometimes. Its sometimes hard to tell if Freddie's persistance is a) terrible social skills, b) a real effort to clear the air and offer the olive branch or c) part of the plan to get Team Twat to expose their nasty ways. It's a probably a mx of all three, and that's fine with me!
me neither cinds, but find it hilarious that everybody is falling for a politicianquote:Originally posted by Cinds:
Personally I cannot stand Freddie, to be honest I cannot stand any of them, horrible bunch.
quote:Originally posted by stephsparkle:
Its sometimes hard to tell if Freddie's persistance is a) terrible social skills, b) a real effort to clear the air and offer the olive branch or c) part of the plan to get Team Twat to expose their nasty ways. It's a probably a mx of all three, and that's fine with me!
quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:quote:Originally posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Why is it when he confronts someone, the rest are like a pack of wolves jumping in? They just gang up against him, he can't get word in edgeways, now if that is not a form of intimidating I don't know what is. I do think BB is watching the situation, I think that's why they called them in, I hope they don't let this go on for much longer
the thing is - he IS still talking - yes I said talking - trying to reason out why they all hate him - you cant really hear him tho because theres others ganging up, effing and blinding and blood pressures soaring because they cant give him an honest answer...
Sitting next to Freddie, Sophie attempted to tackle the point that he had raised – regarding the issues that some housemates have with him, but within seconds someone had shouted over her and the argument raged on. This irritated me, because for the first time I had seen evidence of Sophie challenging a serious point, but more importantly, having an understanding of where Freddie was coming from at that moment.
I do at times wonder if i am watching the same show as some people. For instance, I read descriptions like “pack of wolves” and “sharks circling him”, Sophie gets lumped into this category – despite the fact that she was sitting next to him before the argument with Karly began.
IMO it will be a sad day if Sophie ends up labelled with the bully tags. Other than being dim, easily led and having cr*p taste in men; I think she is a decent girl.
tbh it's kinda getting on my baps now.. his pushing of the subject is making me cringe a bit. .quote:Originally posted by stephsparkle:
Hmm, I kind of agree and Siavash said as much to Freddie in the HL show last night, saying he should back off sometimes. Its sometimes hard to tell if Freddie's persistance is a) terrible social skills, b) a real effort to clear the air and offer the olive branch or c) part of the plan to get Team Twat to expose their nasty ways. It's a probably a mx of all three, and that's fine with me!
wasn't minding him but am now starting to go off him a bit, in fact he's starting to appear a tad smug. . not a good quality..
having said that the others make me want to slap them very very hard (Charlie more than most for some reason) which he doesn't.. well not yet anyway..
quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
Sitting next to Freddie, Sophie attempted to tackle the point that he had raised – regarding the issues that some housemates have with him, but within seconds someone had shouted over her and the argument raged on. This irritated me, because for the first time I had seen evidence of Sophie challenging a serious point, but more importantly, having an understanding of where Freddie was coming from at that moment.
I do at times wonder if am watching the same show as some people. For instance I read descriptions like “pack of wolves” and “sharks circling him”, Sophie gets lumped into this category – despite the fact that she was sitting next to him before the argument with Karly began.
IMO it will be a sad day if Sophie ends up labelled with the bully tags. Other than being dim, easily led and having cr*p taste in men; I think she is a decent girl.
She does bitch about him alot to the others and I have seen her snigger to the others when he is either talking or singing. Imo, that's not a decent way to behave.
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
Sitting next to Freddie, Sophie attempted to tackle the point that he had raised – regarding the issues that some housemates have with him, but within seconds someone had shouted over her and the argument raged on. This irritated me, because for the first time I had seen evidence of Sophie challenging a serious point, but more importantly, having an understanding of where Freddie was coming from at that moment.
I do at times wonder if am watching the same show as some people. For instance I read descriptions like “pack of wolves” and “sharks circling him”, Sophie gets lumped into this category – despite the fact that she was sitting next to him before the argument with Karly began.
IMO it will be a sad day if Sophie ends up labelled with the bully tags. Other than being dim, easily led and having cr*p taste in men; I think she is a decent girl.
She does bitch about him alot to the others and I have seen her snigger to the others when he is either talking or singing. Imo, that's not a decent way to behave.
They all bitch about each other. Freddie bitched about Sophie to Siavash last week. Also, check out the footage from the Tudor task – when Freddie first hears Sophie sing he can be seen sniggering behind her back. I think it is very easy to apply standards differently depending upon which housemates you do, or do not like.
quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
They all bitch about each other. Freddie bitched about Sophie to Siavash last week. Also, check out the footage from the Tudor task – when Freddie first hears Sophie sing he can be seen sniggering behind her back. I think it is very easy to apply standards differently depending upon which housemates you do, or do not like.
I know they all bitch, but you are saying that Sophie is decent and I am just disagreeing with you that I don't think she is. I haven't seen anything fundamentally decent about her since she has been in the house. Sorry
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
They all bitch about each other. Freddie bitched about Sophie to Siavash last week. Also, check out the footage from the Tudor task – when Freddie first hears Sophie sing he can be seen sniggering behind her back. I think it is very easy to apply standards differently depending upon which housemates you do, or do not like.
I know they all bitch, but you are saying that Sophie is decent and I am just disagreeing with you that I don't think she is. I haven't seen anything fundamentally decent about her since she has been in the house. Sorry
Tuesday night on the LF, Freddie prepared supper for those taking part in the task through the night – there was some criticism that it wasn’t great, a point that Freddie conceded. Sophie, however, said nothing – just grateful for the food that had been provided. She is agreeable in a very positive way, gets on with everyone and rarely has any negative criticism levelled at her. I reckon she has bitched as much about Marcus and Sree as she has about Freddie; but when it doesn’t involve Freddie, it doesn’t seem to count…
My opinion would be that most of them are fundamentally decent.
quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
My opinion would be that most of them are fundamentally decent.
We will have to agree to disagree on this
