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Originally posted by paace:

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Originally posted by Rafe:
I didn't know whether to respond in this thread initially but I think I will.

Although it isn't nice, I can understand that after all this time things cannot go from how they were to being completely understanding on both sides from the die hards.

I think it's important for us to learn lessons from and not to get into arguments and never take sides as division only leads to strife

Do you always sit on the fence then Rafe?

I love the way that my response provoked this

So, according to your philosophy (going by my method as being sitting on the fence)... to 'not sit on the fence' I have to either be for the catholic argument or for the protestant argument?

The whole thing is silly beyond belief. Catholic, Protestant, we are all people. There should never be some silly line drawn between us. But then that is a political argument which should never be discussed (religion/politics).

Do I always sit on the fence? There is no damned fence... it is a construct created by people who cannot accept both sides.

Have I argued my 'edge' philosophy clearly enough for you?

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Originally posted by Rafe:

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Originally posted by paace:

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Originally posted by Rafe:
I didn't know whether to respond in this thread initially but I think I will.

Although it isn't nice, I can understand that after all this time things cannot go from how they were to being completely understanding on both sides from the die hards.

I think it's important for us to learn lessons from and not to get into arguments and never take sides as division only leads to strife

Do you always sit on the fence then Rafe?

I love the way that my response provoked this

So, according to your philosophy (going by my method as being sitting on the fence)... to 'not sit on the fence' I have to either be for the catholic argument or for the protestant argument?

The whole thing is silly beyond belief. Catholic, Protestant, we are all people. There should never be some silly line drawn between us. But then that is a political argument which should never be discussed (religion/politics).

Do I always sit on the fence? There is no damned fence... it is a construct created by people who cannot accept both sides.

Have I argued my 'edge' philosophy clearly enough for you?

Silly beyond belief ...? You've just discounted hundreds of years of history with that comment (not just Irish history I may add) ...

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Originally posted by Rafe:

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Originally posted by Shar:
Silly beyond belief ...? You've just discounted hundreds of years of history with that comment (not just Irish history I may add) ...

Because something is historical does that make it non-silly in a modern context?

That's a matter of opinion I suppose ... I'm not coming down on either side of the argument, even though I am legitimally claimed by one side ... however, I do disagree with your observation ... I believe this is a subject which has yet to be dealt with by history or ignored ...

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Originally posted by Shar:

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Originally posted by Rafe:

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Originally posted by Shar:
Silly beyond belief ...? You've just discounted hundreds of years of history with that comment (not just Irish history I may add) ...

Because something is historical does that make it non-silly in a modern context?

That's a matter of opinion I suppose ... I'm not coming down on either side of the argument, even though I am legitimally claimed by one side ... however, I do disagree with your observation ... I believe this is a subject which has yet to be dealt with by history or ignored ...

Although I applaud your not coming down on either side of the argument (much as I myself try not to do until pressed, when I have to point out the lunacy of the thing)... I have to wonder at your 'legitimately claimed' statement.

Nothing will ever change until people start ignoring that and act as a unified (if holding their own judgements) group.

The problem is not with the company saying they cannot wear the tops, the problem is with the people getting riled about it. I dare say if the shoe were on the other foot 'some' sections of the opposing group would make complaints and the same thing would happen.

These children who currently cannot understand (perhaps) why they were not allowed to wear these tops need to grow into a more forgiving society and not be sectioned into one or other of the camps.

Until this starts happening, the division will always glaringly exist.

As for dealt with by history.. when do you draw the line? What would be your solution to the Israel/Palastine situation? History is a pig of a thing to use for an argument.

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Originally posted by Irish-Princess:

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Originally posted by ZAYLEE:

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Originally posted by Neil3841:
Well tesco was spineless but why didn't the people in charge of the kids refuse and tell tesco if they want them to pack bags they will have to accept them as they are.

COS TESCO are doing them a favour letting them pack the bags and getting donations from the customers who's bags they pack - they presumably arent packing the bags for the goodness of their health

Dam, talk about missing the point...

oh I get the point YOU are trying to make but I was replying to somebody elses post who seemed to think that they were actually doing Tesco a good turn by packing the bags when in actual fact its the other way round - organisations are always packing bags in supermarkets in order to raise funds for their own particular cause but the supermarket dont get anything from it