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Originally posted by Lister_of_Smeg:
will you help raise money for are troops im doing a sponsored run to raise money ive also got my union jack fly outside my house .

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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
Good Lord no...wouldn't do anything to glorify the forces who're off killing innocent children in countries that they've no right to be in.

nothing against the individuals in the forces, they deserve the best treatment from the government who are really to blame for the bloodshed, but I hate all that flag waving bollocks....what message does that send out to the rest of the world ....that britain supports their actions abroad...which i absolutely do not

Support the troops by all means, join an anti-war campaign, or write letters to your MP to give them better medical and psychological care when they come back in bits....but this outpouring of Jingoism, makes us look like we revel in our war crimes

no need for the namby pampy, aww the troops need to see our support attitude either...they're suppose to be hard FFS good treatment of them is the best way to thank them for being the poor sad pawns in American created wars

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Originally posted by Moonbeams:

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Originally posted by Lister_of_Smeg:
will you help raise money for are troops im doing a sponsored run to raise money ive also got my union jack fly outside my house .

Good luck with that Lister. Do you have anyone in the forces???

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Originally posted by Lister_of_Smeg:
will you help raise money for are troops im doing a sponsored run to raise money ive also got my union jack fly outside my house .

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Originally posted by Lister_of_Smeg:
yes my Brother is in the Navy .

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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
Good Lord no...wouldn't do anything to glorify the forces who're off killing innocent children in countries that they've no right to be in.

nothing against the individuals in the forces, they deserve the best treatment from the government who are really to blame for the bloodshed, but I hate all that flag waving bollocks....what message does that send out to the rest of the world ....that britain supports their actions abroad...which i absolutely do not

Support the troops by all means, join an anti-war campaign, or write letters to your MP to give them better medical and psychological care when they come back in bits....but this outpouring of Jingoism, makes us look like we revel in our war crimes

no need for the namby pampy, aww the troops need to see our support attitude either...they're suppose to be hard FFS good treatment of them is the best way to thank them for being the poor sad pawns in American created wars

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Originally posted by Moonbeams:

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Originally posted by Lister_of_Smeg:
yes my Brother is in the Navy .

Oh a Sailor *raises eyebrows*.

How many miles/km's are you running and when LoS?

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Originally posted by Lister_of_Smeg:
its 3 miles which is about 4.8km im doing it with a number of other people from my arear a lot are doing it to support the Gurkhas who are bassed down near where i live .

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Originally posted by Bovrilking:
So where does this money go and how does it get distributed to the soldiers, i take it this is for the ones that are back in Blighty only

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Gurkhas? I bet Joanna Lumley will be parachuting in then. Roll out a gurkha and a TV crew and she's there like a shot.

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Originally posted by Joods:
I've been actively supporting Help for Heroes since their beginnings and the Poppy Appeal for years.

My flag is flying and I hope all goes well for those participating in todays events!

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Originally posted by Yogi 19:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Joods:
I've been actively supporting Help for Heroes since their beginnings and the Poppy Appeal for years.

My flag is flying and I hope all goes well for those participating in todays events!


I`ve bought quite a few things from the Help For Heroes website. The items are reasonably priced and the delivery service is good, too.

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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
Good Lord no...wouldn't do anything to glorify the forces who're off killing innocent children in countries that they've no right to be in.

nothing against the individuals in the forces, they deserve the best treatment from the government who are really to blame for the bloodshed, but I hate all that flag waving bollocks....what message does that send out to the rest of the world ....that britain supports their actions abroad...which i absolutely do not

Support the troops by all means, join an anti-war campaign, or write letters to your MP to give them better medical and psychological care when they come back in bits....but this outpouring of Jingoism, makes us look like we revel in our war crimes

no need for the namby pampy, aww the troops need to see our support attitude either...they're suppose to be hard FFS good treatment of them is the best way to thank them for being the poor sad pawns in American created wars

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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
Good Lord no...wouldn't do anything to glorify the forces who're off killing innocent children in countries that they've no right to be in.

nothing against the individuals in the forces, they deserve the best treatment from the government who are really to blame for the bloodshed, but I hate all that flag waving bollocks....what message does that send out to the rest of the world ....that britain supports their actions abroad...which i absolutely do not

Support the troops by all means, join an anti-war campaign, or write letters to your MP to give them better medical and psychological care when they come back in bits....but this outpouring of Jingoism, makes us look like we revel in our war crimes

no need for the namby pampy, aww the troops need to see our support attitude either...they're suppose to be hard FFS good treatment of them is the best way to thank them for being the poor sad pawns in American created wars

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

I agree with you ...up to a point,
I mean the OP did say they were supporting the TROOPS and not what they were fighting for/against etc,....because ya see thats the deal, THEY join the forces and their job, is to "defend" the interests of this country its monarch its people and its government, they aint allowed to "pick and choose" which conflict to fight in or hold a debate on the morality of what they are about to do before they go into action,
it wouldnt work that way,

I hate wars, ALL wars, and wish we never had to stoop to such madness, there is NOTHING great OR glorious about war, its a dirty filthy nasty horrid thing, and as such it should NEVER be entered into lightly,
BUT for times such as the fight against Hitler what alternative was there?
I say THANK you to our boys n girls,
and I think we SHOULD show our thanks,

save our disgust for those who START the wars THEY are the ones who should be called criminals and the ones who should be charged witht war crimes,
so, let the leaders know our ANGER and let the troops know that we value them,

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
I recieved this in a email............... Daddy's
Poem

Her hair was up in a pony tail,
Her favourite dress tied with a bow.
Today was Daddy's Day at school,
And she couldn't wait to go.

But her mommy tried to tell her,
That she probably should stay home.
Why the kids might not understand,
If she went to school alone.
But she was not afraid;
She knew just what to say.
What to tell her classmates
Of why he wasn't there today.

But still her mother worried,
For her to face this day alone.
And that was why once again,
She tried to keep her daughter home.
But the little girl went to school
Eager to tell them all.
About a dad she never sees
A dad who never calls.


There were daddies along the back wall,
For everyone to meet.
Children squirming impatiently,
Anxious in their seats

One by one the teacher called
A student from the class.
To introduce their daddy,
As seconds slowly passed..

At last the teacher called her name,
Every child turned to stare.
Each of them was searching,
A man who wasn't there.

'Where's her daddy at?'
She heard a boy call out.
'She probably doesn't have one,'
Another student dared to shout.
And from somewhere near the back,
She heard a daddy say,
'Looks like another deadbeat dad,
Too busy to waste his day.'

The words did not offend her,
As she smiled up at her Mom and looked back at her teacher,
Who told her to go on.



And with hands behind her back,
Slowly she began to speak.
And out from the mouth of a child,
Came words incredibly unique.

'My Daddy couldn't be here,
Because he lives so far away.
But I know he wishes he could be,
Since this is such a special day.

And though you cannot meet him,
I wanted you to know.
All about my daddy,
And how much he loves me so.

He loved to tell me stories
He taught me to ride my bike..
He surprised me with pink roses,
And taught me to fly a kite.

We used to share fudge sundaes,
And ice cream in a cone.
And though you cannot see him.
I'm not standing here alone.

'Cause my daddy's always with me,
Even though we are apart
I know because he told me,
He'll forever be in my heart'

With that, her little hand reached up,
And lay across her chest.
Feeling her own heartbeat,
Beneath her favourite dress.


And from
Somewhere in the crowd of dads,
Her mother stood in tears..
Proudly watching her daughter,
Who was wise beyond her years.

For she stood up for the love
Of a man not in her life.
Doing what was best for her,
Doing what was right.

And when she dropped her hand back down,
Staring straight into the crowd.
She finished with a voice so soft,
But its message clear and loud.

'I love my daddy very much,
he's my shining star..
And if he could, he'd be here,
But heaven's just too far.

You see he is a soldier
And died just this past year
When a roadside bomb hit his convoy
And taught brave men to fear.

But sometimes when I close my eyes,
it's like he never went away.'
And then she closed her eyes,
And saw him there that day.

And to her mother's amazement,
She witnessed with surprise.
A room full of daddies and children,
All starting to close their eyes.

Who knows what they saw before them,
Who knows what they felt inside.
Perhaps for merely a second,
They saw him at her side.

'I know you're with me Daddy,'
To the silence she called out.
And what happened next made believers,
Of those once filled with doubt.

Not one in that room could explain it,
For each of their eyes had been closed.
But there on the desk beside her,
Was a fragrant long-stemmed pink rose.

And a child was blessed, if only for a moment,
By the love of her shining star.
And given the gift of believing,
That heaven is never too far.


for all those that have lost

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save our disgust for those who START the wars THEY are the ones who should be called criminals and the ones who should be charged witht war crimes,
so, let the leaders know our ANGER and let the troops know that we value them,