They have been unable to find the body of the last known victim, 12 year old Keith Bennett, since his death in 1964. The police have finally conceded that the search based on photographs and evidence from Hindley & Brady has been fruitless and they are now unlikely ever to find his whereabouts on the moors. I hope the family will be able to put this awful thing behind them now. So sad.
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I doubt that the family will ever be able to put what happened to their child behind them. All they have ever wanted, was to find Keith's body, bring him home and have a proper burial for him.
For over 45 years these families have endured the most agonising pain/torture imaginable. I cannot comprehend how they have managed to endure it.
Personally, I don't think the police should ever give up trying to find Keith's body.
For over 45 years these families have endured the most agonising pain/torture imaginable. I cannot comprehend how they have managed to endure it.
Personally, I don't think the police should ever give up trying to find Keith's body.
Former Member
Dreadfully sad
That poor poor family - and the families of the other victims.
That poor poor family - and the families of the other victims.
quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
Dreadfully sad
That poor poor family - and the families of the other victims.
Yes and that monster still lives
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
Dreadfully sad
That poor poor family - and the families of the other victims.
Yes and that monster still lives
I have to say LL that I don't approve of the death penalty or mistreatment of prisoners etc.
But I know that if I was in a position of power over people like him and Huntley, that I would find it very hard to control myself.
Especially infuriating was the circus that surrounded Myra Hindley - every time that trigger word or her mate Longford starting pleading for her release or she applied for parole bleating on about her human rights etc I though of those poor parents and how it must have made them feel.
On top of everything that they had to suffer anyway
Former Member
How very sad this little boy wont have a decent funeral. My heart goes out to the family
quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
I have to say LL that I don't approve of the death penalty or mistreatment of prisoners etc.
But I know that if I was in a position of power over people like him and Huntley, that I would find it very hard to control myself.
Especially infuriating was the circus that surrounded Myra Hindley - every time that trigger word or her mate Longford starting pleading for her release or she applied for parole bleating on about her human rights etc I though of those poor parents and how it must have made them feel.
On top of everything that they had to suffer anyway
I think everyone knows my views on the death penalty and that I am an advocate for it to be brought back. There are just some crimes that are so evil, so absolutely indefensible, that they warrant the ultimate justice - death.
That's all I am going to say re the death penalty.
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
I have to say LL that I don't approve of the death penalty or mistreatment of prisoners etc.
But I know that if I was in a position of power over people like him and Huntley, that I would find it very hard to control myself.
Especially infuriating was the circus that surrounded Myra Hindley - every time that trigger word or her mate Longford starting pleading for her release or she applied for parole bleating on about her human rights etc I though of those poor parents and how it must have made them feel.
On top of everything that they had to suffer anyway
I think everyone knows my views on the death penalty and that I am an advocate for it to be brought back. There are just some crimes that are so evil, so absolutely indefensible, that they warrant the ultimate justice - death.
That's all I am going to say re the death penalty.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
I think everyone knows my views on the death penalty and that I am an advocate for it to be brought back. There are just some crimes that are so evil, so absolutely indefensible, that they warrant the ultimate justice - death.
That's all I am going to say re the death penalty.
I don't agree but I can understand your viewpoint
I'm surprised with all the advances in forensics etc that the police have been unable to pinpoint the grave.
My understanding was that Hindley and Brady had taken photographs of themselves where the graves were - surely these can be fed into a computer and an accurate search area defined?
quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
I'm surprised with all the advances in forensics etc that the police have been unable to pinpoint the grave.
My understanding was that Hindley and Brady had taken photographs of themselves where the graves were - surely these can be fed into a computer and an accurate search area defined?
I think that has been tried, but the moors are
so vast and due to the years and climate change, is not the same as it was all those years ago. They have used all sort of equipment but to no avail
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
I think that has been tried, but the moors are
so vast and due to the years and climate change, is not the same as it was all those years ago. They have used all sort of equipment but to no avail
Yup, I drive through it on the motorway alot, its vast and generally featureless I just thank gawd the internet didn't exist back then, the tapes would have bound to have found themselves onto the internet God rest his soul
quote:Originally posted by Perones:
Yup, I drive through it on the motorway alot, its vast and generally featureless I just thank gawd the internet didn't exist back then, the tapes would have bound to have found themselves onto the internet God rest his soul
Without a doubt they would be on YouTube by now.
God rest all of their souls.
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On a programme,think it was "Born to Kill" or something like that, a policeman said the tapes are locked away and they will never be released. Thank God for thatquote:Originally posted by Perones:quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
I think that has been tried, but the moors are
so vast and due to the years and climate change, is not the same as it was all those years ago. They have used all sort of equipment but to no avail
Yup, I drive through it on the motorway alot, its vast and generally featureless I just thank gawd the internet didn't exist back then, the tapes would have bound to have found themselves onto the internet God rest his soul
quote:Originally posted by Skylark24:
On a programme,think it was "Born to Kill" or something like that, a policeman said the tapes are locked away and they will never be released. Thank God for that
Yes that is true and hopefully will remain that way. I think the full transcript of the tapes were heard during the court case and some of the transcript was put into a book. Dear god, I cannot imagine what it must have been like for Lesley Ann Downey's family to hear them.
Very sad, I remember being up on Saddleworth Moor last Year when the Police dug up some bones that turned out to be a dead Sheep...
..it makes me angry to think that, that Monster can even call himself Human!
...he is in a place where he has excellent Medical attention as his disposal, 3 meals a day and I guess various other 'perks' that 'we' struggle for....he has been on numerous hunger strikes and it must cost 'us' Taxpayers a fortune for his treatment, quite frankly , given the choice, i would refuse him and let him wither away and die....
..it makes me angry to think that, that Monster can even call himself Human!
...he is in a place where he has excellent Medical attention as his disposal, 3 meals a day and I guess various other 'perks' that 'we' struggle for....he has been on numerous hunger strikes and it must cost 'us' Taxpayers a fortune for his treatment, quite frankly , given the choice, i would refuse him and let him wither away and die....
Not wishing to use a very overused word this past few days on this and many other forums, but my utmost respect goes out to the families of the victims of the Moors Murderers, who have conducted themselves with dignity throughout the 43 years that they have been in the media spotlight.
I just wish they could have found his body and given his family the chance of a decent funeral and a place for them to go to.
RIP the victims.
I just wish they could have found his body and given his family the chance of a decent funeral and a place for them to go to.
RIP the victims.
I feel for the mother in all this. Her life has been ruined by these monsters, may they rot in hell.
In all honesty, I'm sure he is in a living hell, every breath which he takes, death may perhaps be too good for him..which is why of course that he does actually want to die..
quote:Originally posted by luxor:
I feel for the mother in all this. Her life has been ruined by these monsters, may they rot in hell.
Winnie Johnson is very elderly now, every year on Keith's birthday, she and other her son go up to the moors and place flowers there for him. It's heartbreaking.
I find cases of the likes of Brady and Huntley so depressing,as its a reminder how appalingly we as humans can behave.Also,I don't like to believe that any human being is inherently evil but rather we are all capable of doing something evil in the right circumstances.Thats just how I feel about humanity in general.
But there are some crimes so appalling it makes me question those beliefs.Who knows what motivated them to do what they did...nor how they can live with the knowledge they've ruined so many lives
But there are some crimes so appalling it makes me question those beliefs.Who knows what motivated them to do what they did...nor how they can live with the knowledge they've ruined so many lives
quote:Originally posted by Mazzystar:
I find cases of the likes of Brady and Huntley so depressing,as its a reminder how appalingly we as humans can behave.Also,I don't like to believe that any human being is inherently evil but rather we are all capable of doing something evil in the right circumstances.Thats just how I feel about humanity in general.
But there are some crimes so appalling it makes me question those beliefs.Who knows what motivated them to do what they did...nor how they can live with the knowledge they've ruined so many lives
'They' do say that if Myra Hindley & Ian Brady had never met, the chances are neither of them would've committed the hideous crimes they did!!!
Now, call me odd, but if I met someone and they started dropping weird stuff about murdering children into a conversation i'd be off like a shot and on to the Police!
Therefore, I believe they were born bad through and through,and their meeting brought out that badness that maybe would've stayed inside if they hadn't ever met! So sad
quote:Originally posted by luxor:
I feel for the mother in all this. Her life has been ruined by these monsters, may they rot in hell.
One of them is already doing that. Just the other one to go now.
quote:Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
'They' do say that if Myra Hindley & Ian Brady had never met, the chances are neither of them would've committed the hideous crimes they did!!!
Not so sure that is true as Brady was already into torturing and killing animals before he met Hindley.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by PinkBabe1966:
Not wishing to use a very overused word this past few days on this and many other forums, but my utmost respect goes out to the families of the victims of the Moors Murderers, who have conducted themselves with dignity throughout the 43 years that they have been in the media spotlight.
I just wish they could have found his body and given his family the chance of a decent funeral and a place for them to go to.
RIP the victims.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
Not so sure that is true as Brady was already into torturing and killing animals before he met Hindley.
Aren't these bar stewards always?
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
I doubt that the family will ever be able to put what happened to their child behind them. All they have ever wanted, was to find Keith's body, bring him home and have a proper burial for him.
For over 45 years these families have endured the most agonising pain/torture imaginable. I cannot comprehend how they have managed to endure it.
Personally, I don't think the police should ever give up trying to find Keith's body.
i can see what you're saying and why you're saying it but .......................they have searched and searched and searched again ...............it's good IMO that they've held their hands up and said 'NO MORE' ...there really is only so much you can do with no new evidence.
I know this sounds heartless but ......just imagine the expense of keeping these guys on the case year after year with nothing new to go on.
Iain Brady is one eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil individual. I bet when he dies he's got the clues written down somewhere.
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