I've got "singlemuslim.com"

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Originally posted by caigy73:
Nope, they shouldn't. It's not reasonable to ban any type of clothing in a free society. If people want to wear them for whatever reason, then they should.

Rubbish!

Free society, where do you live?
I'm English.......you try finding that on a form to tick the box!
Some men in the Arab states wear the burka and go into women's changing rooms....wonder why!
I don't care if I offend people, this is my opinion and in a 'free society' I can say it!

....and DanceSettee, can I have a Doreen please, then I can go out with my p.js on underneath!
(Call it Noreen, in honour of BB)

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Originally posted by kittyuk:

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Originally posted by caigy73:
Nope, they shouldn't. It's not reasonable to ban any type of clothing in a free society. If people want to wear them for whatever reason, then they should.

Rubbish!

Free society, where do you live?
I'm English.......you try finding that on a form to tick the box!
Some men in the Arab states wear the burka and go into women's changing rooms....wonder why!
I don't care if I offend people, this is my opinion and in a 'free society' I can say it!

So are you in a free society or not? Hmmm?

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by kittyuk:

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Originally posted by caigy73:
Nope, they shouldn't. It's not reasonable to ban any type of clothing in a free society. If people want to wear them for whatever reason, then they should.

Rubbish!

Free society, where do you live?
I'm English.......you try finding that on a form to tick the box!
Some men in the Arab states wear the burka and go into women's changing rooms....wonder why!
I don't care if I offend people, this is my opinion and in a 'free society' I can say it!

So are you in a free society or not? Hmmm?

Not as free as it used to be!

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
So are you in a free society or not? Hmmm?

hahahahaha

I remember being at the anti Bush protests and the SWP were all singing (to the tune of Yellow Submarine)
We all live in a terrorist regime

which may be true or not depending on your interpretation but the irony of 200+ of them singing it in public in front of 1000's of coppers was lost on them

*hangs around for Stonks to appear modelling the fetching 'Doreen' by Dance Settee*



Mine's a bit plain----------->

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Originally posted by Kaytee:
*hangs around for Stonks to appear modelling the fetching 'Doreen' by Dance Settee*



Mine's a bit plain----------->

yes you could do with a bit of a makeover...i'm seeing you in "Tracy"...

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Originally posted by chilligrape:

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Originally posted by mozart:
i want to know what their passport photos are like. How can you match face to photo if they are presenting their passports whilst wearing a veil

They are required to remove the veil when showing their passport, sometimes tis is done in private.

If that's the case, how did one terrorist manage to leave the country via an airport dressed as a woamn in a burkha? I'm opposed to banning them, but I think exceptions have to be made when security of others is involved.

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Originally posted by DanceSettee:

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Originally posted by Kaytee:
*hangs around for Stonks to appear modelling the fetching 'Doreen' by Dance Settee*



Mine's a bit plain----------->

yes you could do with a bit of a makeover...i'm seeing you in "Tracy"...

Wonderful!!!! another triumph!! Mwah Mwah

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Originally posted by Kaytee:


Wonderful!!!! another triumph!! Mwah Mwah

oh...it's SOOOOOO you

Brilliant! How do you do that, DanceSettee?

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Originally posted by fabienne:
Brilliant! How do you do that, DanceSettee?

by goblin magic

and paint.net

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Originally posted by DanceSettee:

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Originally posted by Kaytee:


Wonderful!!!! another triumph!! Mwah Mwah

oh...it's SOOOOOO you

Thank you Dance Settee

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Originally posted by Kaytee:

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Originally posted by DanceSettee:

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Originally posted by Kaytee:


Wonderful!!!! another triumph!! Mwah Mwah

oh...it's SOOOOOO you

*prances down catwalk swishing new burkha*

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Originally posted by Veggieburger:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
So are you in a free society or not? Hmmm?

hahahahaha

I remember being at the anti Bush protests and the SWP were all singing (to the tune of Yellow Submarine)
We all live in a terrorist regime

which may be true or not depending on your interpretation but the irony of 200+ of them singing it in public in front of 1000's of coppers was lost on them

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Originally posted by chilligrape:

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Originally posted by mozart:
i want to know what their passport photos are like. How can you match face to photo if they are presenting their passports whilst wearing a veil

They are required to remove the veil when showing their passport, sometimes tis is done in private.

last week i returned from Paris and infront of me was what i assumed was a muslim woman wearing a full head veil, she wasnt asked to remove it or even lower her yashmac type veil, so how could the passport controller truly say that was the peron in the passport photo.

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Originally posted by mozart:

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Originally posted by chilligrape:

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Originally posted by mozart:
i want to know what their passport photos are like. How can you match face to photo if they are presenting their passports whilst wearing a veil

They are required to remove the veil when showing their passport, sometimes tis is done in private.

last week i returned from Paris and infront of me was what i assumed was a muslim woman wearing a full head veil, she wasnt asked to remove it or even lower her yashmac type veil, so how could the passport controller truly say that was the peron in the passport photo.

The last year we came back to Waterloo on the Eurostar (before St. P) a lady behind us had obviously undergone major facial cosmetic sugery and was struggling to keep covered up. It kept us fascinated for hours.

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Originally posted by Kaytee:


*prances down catwalk swishing new burkha*

upstages...wearing Disco Dolly from my couture range ........

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Originally posted by DanceSettee:

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Originally posted by Kaytee:


*prances down catwalk swishing new burkha*

upstages...wearing Disco Dolly from my couture range ........

Hey, if you've got it, flaunt it!

I have to confess to struggling a bit, culturally, with burkhas and niqabs. It's not the wearing of them in the street, per se, but what my reaction ought to be when I encounter someone with one on. Do I meet their eye? Do I nod or smile like I might with other people? Do I show respect by not looking at them if they think I might be thinking sexual thoughts about them? Should I be terse with them unless they remove their covering as I sometimes am with people who talk to me wearing dark glasses as I think they're rude and ill-mannered?

Ohmigod, that was brilliant. There's a woman in a burkha on The Big Question with Nicky Campbell and she said that she wears one because the face is the most attractive part of the body and the men in the audience might be attracted to hers. So, Nicky asks her: "What about women being attracted to men's faces?" and she completely froze. Simply couldn't answer. For about 10 seconds. Eventually, she managed to babble that scholars say women should wear them, not men, thus demonstrating Campbell's opening point that women are subjugated. Classic TV.

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Ohmigod, that was brilliant. There's a woman in a burkha on The Big Question with Nicky Campbell and she said that she wears one because the face is the most attractive part of the body and the men in the audience might be attracted to hers. So, Nicky asks her: "What about women being attracted to men's faces?" and she completely froze. Simply couldn't answer. For about 10 seconds. Eventually, she managed to babble that scholars say women should wear them, not men, thus demonstrating Campbell's opening point that women are subjugated. Classic TV.

I saw that, and the one thing that I noticed about her was that she did not interact with anyone in the audience. She only responded to Nicky Campbell and I think that is the effect of the burkha it cuts you off, people don't like to approach you and you are walking around in your own personal space all the time.

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Originally posted by squiggle:
I saw that, and the one thing that I noticed about her was that she did not interact with anyone in the audience. She only responded to Nicky Campbell and I think that is the effect of the burkha it cuts you off, people don't like to approach you and you are walking around in your own personal space all the time.

I suppose it must be a bit like wearing one of those parkas with the tunnel hoods that were fashionable years ago. Very warm in winter ... but deadly when crossing roads. Like I said a few days ago, I really don't know how to react myself. Rightly or worngly, I'm inclined to read the burkhas as saying "Feck off and mind your own business". I don't mind that as such but I think it's their onus to make an effort if they want to communicate with me.

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by squiggle:
I saw that, and the one thing that I noticed about her was that she did not interact with anyone in the audience. She only responded to Nicky Campbell and I think that is the effect of the burkha it cuts you off, people don't like to approach you and you are walking around in your own personal space all the time.

I suppose it must be a bit like wearing one of those parkas with the tunnel hoods that were fashionable years ago. Very warm in winter ... but deadly when crossing roads. Like I said a few days ago, I really don't know how to react myself. Rightly or worngly, I'm inclined to read the burkhas as saying "Feck off and mind your own business". I don't mind that as such but I think it's their onus to make an effort if they want to communicate with me.

Did you also find it interesting to see the difference in viewpoint from the 'moderate' Imam and the more 'full on' (for want of a better phrase) Muslims?

just found this and thought the authors views interesting, just the article, not necessarily the site.

http://exposingislam.blogspot....slim-woman-want.html

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Originally posted by mozart:

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Originally posted by chilligrape:

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Originally posted by mozart:
i want to know what their passport photos are like. How can you match face to photo if they are presenting their passports whilst wearing a veil

They are required to remove the veil when showing their passport, sometimes tis is done in private.

last week i returned from Paris and infront of me was what i assumed was a muslim woman wearing a full head veil, she wasnt asked to remove it or even lower her yashmac type veil, so how could the passport controller truly say that was the peron in the passport photo.

maybe her passport was like this driving licence?


at what point are we going to get to the situation where our passports/ photo licences are like that too, i think i may choose to do that on my next one, that way i can lend my passport to anyone i want

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

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Originally posted by mozart:

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Originally posted by chilligrape:

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Originally posted by mozart:
i want to know what their passport photos are like. How can you match face to photo if they are presenting their passports whilst wearing a veil

They are required to remove the veil when showing their passport, sometimes tis is done in private.

last week i returned from Paris and infront of me was what i assumed was a muslim woman wearing a full head veil, she wasnt asked to remove it or even lower her yashmac type veil, so how could the passport controller truly say that was the peron in the passport photo.

maybe her passport was like this driving licence?


at what point are we going to get to the situation where our passports/ photo licences are like that too, i think i may choose to do that on my next one, that way i can lend my passport to anyone i want

Where did you get pic btw, from a friendly websit

I would say there is no danger of you having to pose for your passport pic in a burka for the forseeable future....which could be a minus point frankly considering how ugly one's mug looks in those pics

<-------burka stylee

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Originally posted by DanceSettee:

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Originally posted by Kaytee:


*prances down catwalk swishing new burkha*

upstages...wearing Disco Dolly from my couture range ........

GRRRRRRR!

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
I have to confess to struggling a bit, culturally, with burkhas and niqabs. It's not the wearing of them in the street, per se, but what my reaction ought to be when I encounter someone with one on. Do I meet their eye? Do I nod or smile like I might with other people? Do I show respect by not looking at them if they think I might be thinking sexual thoughts about them? Should I be terse with them unless they remove their covering as I sometimes am with people who talk to me wearing dark glasses as I think they're rude and ill-mannered?

Have you thought about people who have to wear dark glasses because of eye problems like me?

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Originally posted by bozzimacoo:
just found this and thought the authors views interesting, just the article, not necessarily the site.

http://exposingislam.blogspot....slim-woman-want.html

Thanks for that Bozzimacoo - great article and totally agree with it. We should ban the burka just like France - this country`s tolerance has gone way too far. I also agreed with the GP who said he refused to see patients who kept the burka on - how can you have a conversation with someone without seeing their face.

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Originally posted by Kaytee:
Have you thought about people who have to wear dark glasses because of eye problems like me?

No I haven't.

There's a lot to be said for non-verbal communication though which we intuitively pick up, even when people have dark glasses on. Are strangers sometimes a bit terse with you if you try to start up a proper conversation while wearing dark glasses?

i am not pro or against the banning of burka, imo if the majority of GB wants it banned, then it would happen.
The % of muslim women wearing them is neglible i think (no facts just my view), most of those women are mainly residents in the uk for their shopping trip galores.

On the point of having a conversation with someone wearing burka, its not that difficult as long as there is eye contact, and also whats the bleedy worry, mostly women that wears burka hardly every socialised outside their own circles, as for doctors hmmm...its been known that a misdiagnose could happen with or without burkas on.

Hope that make sense

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by Kaytee:
Have you thought about people who have to wear dark glasses because of eye problems like me?

No I haven't.

There's a lot to be said for non-verbal communication though which we intuitively pick up, even when people have dark glasses on. Are strangers sometimes a bit terse with you if you try to start up a proper conversation while wearing dark glasses?

I (for one) do take off my dark glasses if I am talking to a stranger or someone I had just been introduced, but not with people that knew me..well not all the time

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by Kaytee:
Have you thought about people who have to wear dark glasses because of eye problems like me?

No I haven't.

There's a lot to be said for non-verbal communication though which we intuitively pick up, even when people have dark glasses on. Are strangers sometimes a bit terse with you if you try to start up a proper conversation while wearing dark glasses?

Never....people are just the same

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Originally posted by Kaytee:

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There's a lot to be said for non-verbal communication though which we intuitively pick up, even when people have dark glasses on. Are strangers sometimes a bit terse with you if you try to start up a proper conversation while wearing dark glasses?

Never....people are just the same

You're probably giving out the right non-verbals then.

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by Kaytee:

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There's a lot to be said for non-verbal communication though which we intuitively pick up, even when people have dark glasses on. Are strangers sometimes a bit terse with you if you try to start up a proper conversation while wearing dark glasses?

Never....people are just the same

You're probably giving out the right non-verbals then.

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