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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I wish you wouldn't keep referring to Scargill and his fellow Marxists and Trots.
Scargill was doing a job representing the Union. I say again, he wouldn't know the difference between a Marxist, a Leninist, a Marxist Leninist, a Trotskyist, or a Stakhanovite, though to be fair I'm not sure about the latter either.

He was a member of the Communist Party at one point and had strong Marxist views as far as I can tell. He certainly talked the talk about the working class and the ruling class and he was clearly a revolutionary. He was also instrumental in bringing Kinnock down and putting Tony Blair in power in the longer term, ironically.

How many times did you go to hear him talk? There was a big difference between what he actually said in speech, and that which was reported in the press.

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Originally posted by electric6:
I'm up to page 12 and losing the will to live

Keeep up sister.

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Originally posted by electric6:
I'm up to page 12 and losing the will to live

There's tea and cake somewhere in the middle.

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
How many times did you go to hear him talk? There was a big difference between what he actually said in speech, and that which was reported in the press.

Oh lordy, I'm too young to have gone to see him speak live at the time!

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by electric6:
I'm up to page 12 and losing the will to live

There's tea and cake somewhere in the middle.

CAKE?....someone mention CAKE?

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
How many times did you go to hear him talk? There was a big difference between what he actually said in speech, and that which was reported in the press.

Oh lordy, I'm too young to have gone to see him speak live at the time!

There you are see!
If you get the chance, try to catch Tony Benn on his speaking tour. He is very good and nothing like the way he was portrayed.
As you may have read between my lines. IMHYCO Arthur Scargill, although mostly correct, is a piss poor one track speaker.

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
How many times did you go to hear him talk? There was a big difference between what he actually said in speech, and that which was reported in the press.

Oh lordy, I'm too young to have gone to see him speak live at the time!

There you are see!
If you get the chance, try to catch Tony Benn on his speaking tour. He is very good and nothing like the way he was portrayed.
As you may have read between my lines. IMHYCO Arthur Scargill, although mostly correct, is a piss poor one track speaker.

Tony Benn is a demi-God.
I wanted to go and see him on tour,but unfortunately the one closest to me was on my daughters birthday.
The Benn tapes are well worth a listen.

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
How many times did you go to hear him talk? There was a big difference between what he actually said in speech, and that which was reported in the press.

Oh lordy, I'm too young to have gone to see him speak live at the time!

There you are see!
If you get the chance, try to catch Tony Benn on his speaking tour. He is very good and nothing like the way he was portrayed.
As you may have read between my lines. IMHYCO Arthur Scargill, although mostly correct, is a piss poor one track speaker.

Tony Benn is wonderful. He speaks at the Tolpuddle festival most years along with the equally wonderful Billy Bragg.

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
How many times did you go to hear him talk? There was a big difference between what he actually said in speech, and that which was reported in the press.

Oh lordy, I'm too young to have gone to see him speak live at the time!

There you are see!
If you get the chance, try to catch Tony Benn on his speaking tour. He is very good and nothing like the way he was portrayed.
As you may have read between my lines. IMHYCO Arthur Scargill, although mostly correct, is a piss poor one track speaker.

I'm only practicing, you know. I do this all the time, seeing if I can take a position in a debate and defend it. Shhhh.

I remember hearing Scargill's Barnsley (?) accent blaring out all the way through the strike and I remember his comb-over. I also remember Kinnock stuck between a rock and a hard place and looking very pained most of the time.

As for Tony Benn, I think he's great. He understands very clearly and can articulate very well the differences between sovereignty and power. I've heard him talk about all that when he's in academic mode. A principled man, I'd say. Though I expect I'd disagree with his politics.

I'm done.

Not sure where we're up to now in the debate though...

Right that concludes the day's entertainment for me. Early start.
Catch you later DanielJ*

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Originally posted by electric6:
I'm done.

Not sure where we're up to now in the debate though...

Pssst. You have crumbs stuck in your moustache.

@ GJ

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by electric6:
I'm done.

Not sure where we're up to now in the debate though...

Pssst. You have crumbs stuck in your moustache.

Don't bite him Leccy!

See ya Joe

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:
See ya Joe

Tra pet lamb!

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Pssst. You have crumbs stuck in your moustache.

It took Marie Antionette's advice

Ta ra Joe!

WHERES MY CAKE????

CAKE...CAKE.....CAKE...CAKE...

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
WHERES MY CAKE????

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:


CAKE...CAKE.....CAKE...CAKE...

Thos Tory womens Institute ladies must have eaten it all

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:
See ya Joe

Tra pet lamb!

Baa!

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:


CAKE...CAKE.....CAKE...CAKE...

Thos Tory womens Institute ladies must have eaten it all

GIRLS.....GIRLS.....GIRLS....

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:


CAKE...CAKE.....CAKE...CAKE...

Thos Tory womens Institute ladies must have eaten it all

Well you should've just dived in - it was a huge one

There might be some curled up cucumber sarnies somewhere

Morning brothers. And sisters.

Time to continue the struggle for social justice and the redistribution of wealth against the counter revolutionary forces of bourgeois revisionism?

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Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:
Morning brothers. And sisters.

Time to continue the struggle for social justice and the redistribution of wealth against the counter revolutionary forces of bourgeois revisionism?

Alas Comrade! I have business elsewhere.

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Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:
Morning brothers. And sisters.

Time to continue the struggle for social justice and the redistribution of wealth against the counter revolutionary forces of bourgeois revisionism?

I'm prepared to change sides today if some of the wealth is redistributed into my bank account. Product of Thatcher's Britain, me.