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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
wont be on tonight

WRONG

MEEEE Right .

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Originally posted by erinp:
lisa also started on Angel,she asked Angel if she would let a new born baby not eat, Angel said there is no comparison Norin is an adult,Lisa told her to go and do some skipping.

Is that what she said? (I missed that bit).

Could she get anymore patronising?

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No one forced Noirin to wear the mask, she was sooooo desperate for her 15 minutes of fame she elected to wear it. It's not her 'identity' oh pleaaaase little girl get over yourself

The others encouraging her to starve herself for three days was ridiculous...good woman Lisa you tell them

And brave boy halfwit for callin her a bloke

I agree with everything you say about Noirin.... but at no time did Freddieagree with her hunger strike... in he lounge you could clearly hear him say 'dont go on a hunger strike, stop talking, go silent'. He said whatever she decided tho he would support her with Angel. Not starving himself tho as he thought she wa being extreme.

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Originally posted by Videostar:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
wont be on tonight

WRONG

MEEEE Right .

LALALALALA

Just the way Lisa talks to Freddie is shocking, and for no reason at all.

He hasn't shouted at her, abused her with foul language and hasn't been in her face, so why all the hatred for him by her.?

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Originally posted by Bethni:

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No one forced Noirin to wear the mask, she was sooooo desperate for her 15 minutes of fame she elected to wear it. It's not her 'identity' oh pleaaaase little girl get over yourself

The others encouraging her to starve herself for three days was ridiculous...good woman Lisa you tell them

And brave boy halfwit for callin her a bloke

I agree with everything you say about Noirin.... but at no time did Freddieagree with her hunger strike... in he lounge you could clearly hear him say 'dont go on a hunger strike, stop talking, go silent'. He said whatever she decided tho he would support her with Angel. Not starving himself tho as he thought she wa being extreme.

Yeah, I know he never agreed with it, he even told her to just not apply the mask every day rather than go on hunger strike.

Even when they were in the Kitchen earlier in the Hl show ,they were all discussing their type,but when it came to Freddie Lisa asked him if he would go out with someone from a council estate?

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Originally posted by erinp:
Even when they were in the Kitchen earlier in the Hl show ,they were all discussing their type,but when it came to Freddie Lisa asked him if he would go out with someone from a council estate?

He should have asked her if she'd ever consider going out with anyone who possessed basic good manners.

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Originally posted by Shar:
*Puts on flak jacket*

You know ... I feel a little bit sorry for Lisa in all of this ... she did get involved because she genuinely disagreed with the whole hunger strike thing and, in particular, others egging Noirin on ... I have to say I agree with her about that ... It was a stupid idea and an equally stupid idea for anyone to encourage it ...

Yes ... Lisa was out of order in how she handled it, but Marcus was having a fair old go at her and with Freddie piping in too, it's hardly surprising that she got so defensive ...

She had a go at Freddie and Angel first, and kept on, that's when Marcus stepped in. She was the aggressor in this.

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Originally posted by Videostar:
Just the way Lisa talks to Freddie is shocking, and for no reason at all.

He hasn't shouted at her, abused her with foul language and hasn't been in her face, so why all the hatred for him by her.?

i really do think its because she doesn't know his 'ways' so to speak, hence what she doesn't understand had to be wrong or the enemy.
She's limited in her reach...notice whom she can influence and whom she can't.
And she also misunderstood manners and decency for weaknesses....

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Originally posted by Videostar:
Just the way Lisa talks to Freddie is shocking, and for no reason at all.

He hasn't shouted at her, abused her with foul language and hasn't been in her face, so why all the hatred for him by her.?

because he was born into money and she is on the dole?
she probably just hates him for having a 'perfect' life when she doesn't talk about immature huh

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Originally posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:

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Originally posted by brisket:
I`m afraid I still don`t like Marcus.
Seems a bit desperate , though, that the only way to subdue Lisa was to shout her down, or give her as good as she gives others.
I thought they got off lightly with Big Brother.
Just a calming down period.

Is it just me or did anyone else think that Lisa thought BB took her out because she was in the right?
She came over as though they were offering her refuge from a nasty, bad man.

I expect that will be her official line.

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Originally posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:

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Originally posted by erinp:
Even when they were in the Kitchen earlier in the Hl show ,they were all discussing their type,but when it came to Freddie Lisa asked him if he would go out with someone from a council estate?

He should have asked her if she'd ever consider going out with anyone who possessed basic good manners.

Yes but that question wouldn't apply to Lisa.

I'm actually very angry at the showing tonight... my oh here has disappeared cos ive been shouting . It showed 'alot' of the fight but nowhere near how vindictive and rude Lisa was.I seen a clip... i thought it was at the very beginning of last nights LF where Cairon went and told Lisa, i think she was in the kitchen, that Noirin wanted them all to go on hunger strike.Lisa told him she wouldn't give up her food for nobody, then she went into the room. I dont remember her going to the diary room BEFORE the fight.

I dont care how old Freddie is but if i was his sister or mother i swear i'd hang for that woman!! He is sooo polite and well mannered, never raises his voice. I dont know how he keeps his cool.

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Originally posted by hal:

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Originally posted by Videostar:
Just the way Lisa talks to Freddie is shocking, and for no reason at all.

He hasn't shouted at her, abused her with foul language and hasn't been in her face, so why all the hatred for him by her.?

i really do think its because she doesn't know his 'ways' so to speak, hence what she doesn't understand had to be wrong or the enemy.
She's limited in her reach...notice whom she can influence and whom she can't.
And she also misunderstood manners and decency for weaknesses....

And then goes for the jugular.

I don't like the way Lisa pretends not to remember Freddie's name, using that as an excuse to call him "dumb f*ck" instead. It just seems like more evidence of her unfounded dislike for the guy.

It's behaviour like that, coupled with the aggressive confrontations she has with Freddie, which all adds up to bullying... and you can shout me down all you want for using the "bully" word, that's exactly what it is. Classic school yard mentality.

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Originally posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:

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Originally posted by erinp:
Even when they were in the Kitchen earlier in the Hl show ,they were all discussing their type,but when it came to Freddie Lisa asked him if he would go out with someone from a council estate?

He should have asked her if she'd ever consider going out with anyone who possessed basic good manners.

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Originally posted by erinp:
Even when they were in the Kitchen earlier in the Hl show ,they were all discussing their type,but when it came to Freddie Lisa asked him if he would go out with someone from a council estate?

Lisas problem with Fred is not an uncommon one with people like lisa,
low intelligence and a resentment of those who are more intelligent and have had a more privelidged upbringing,
they feel threatened by "them" and therefore feel the need to belittle and attack them whenever the opportunity arises,
this is why Lisa asked fred if he would go out with a girl from a council estate,
because SHE believes that fred will think of himself as "above" the likes of her and people from her own background,
did she seriously expect him to say no? how stupid does she think he is?
even if he DID think that way he certainly wouldnt be stupid enough to say so on national tv,
its just another example of her prejudice and ignorance,

oh, and I was born and brought up on a council estate and I also only had a basic state education,
but not ALL of us are as stupid or ignorant as her,
she is no more typical of her "class" than fred is of his,
I like the guy

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:
I don't like the way Lisa pretends not to remember Freddie's name, using that as an excuse to call him "dumb f*ck" instead. It just seems like more evidence of her unfounded dislike for the guy.

It's behaviour like that, coupled with the aggressive confrontations she has with Freddie, which all adds up to bullying... and you can shout me down all you want for using the "bully" word, that's exactly what it is. Classic school yard mentality.

I usually get fed up with people always useing the B word just because two HM's have an argument, but in this case I feel she is bullying him, every chance she gets she mocks him and is nasty to him.

And it's bullying because her hangers on gang members all laugh at her nastiness to him, even the people who Freddie has tried to help in the past like Nurofen...the bitch.

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:
I don't like the way Lisa pretends not to remember Freddie's name, using that as an excuse to call him "dumb f*ck" instead. It just seems like more evidence of her unfounded dislike for the guy.

It's behaviour like that, coupled with the aggressive confrontations she has with Freddie, which all adds up to bullying... and you can shout me down all you want for using the "bully" word, that's exactly what it is. Classic school yard mentality.

And shes the on who said earlier "they're all too young for me.
Trouble is BB does this every year. They get a lot of kids and twenty somethings in then have a big gap with a 40 something person. Its a s**t system.
They should spread the ages right across the board.
Fed up with saying this year after b***y year.

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by erinp:
Even when they were in the Kitchen earlier in the Hl show ,they were all discussing their type,but when it came to Freddie Lisa asked him if he would go out with someone from a council estate?

Lisas problem with Fred is not an uncommon one with people like lisa,
low intelligence and a resentment of those who are more intelligent and have had a more privelidged upbringing,
they feel threatened by "them" and therefore feel the need to belittle and attack them whenever the opportunity arises,
this is why Lisa asked fred if he would go out with a girl from a council estate,
because SHE believes that fred will think of himself as "above" the likes of her and people from her own background,
did she seriously expect him to say no? how stupid does she think he is?
even if he DID think that way he certainly wouldnt be stupid enough to say so on national tv,
its just another example of her prejudice and ignorance,

oh, and I was born and brought up on a council estate and I also only had a basic state education,
but not ALL of us are as stupid or ignorant as her,
she is no more typical of her "class" than fred is of his,
I like the guy

AAAAAAAAAWWWWWW BIG s to OHG . Well said, i think your exactly right.

They could put as many 40 something people in there and she'd still be the most immature of the lot.

She's certainly not displaying any maturity.

Lisa is from the gutters; anyone raised in a council estate should be more concern and offended with her remarks. The woman is so wrapped up in her own self-pity that she does not stop and think what she is saying.

In Lisa’s world she probably thinks the nation is against people like Freddie, so she is making us all feel good and she will leave BB as people’s champion.

Lisa seems to have an almighty chip on her shoulders, it is obvious from her dislike of Freddy. Asking him the other night if he would go out with a girl from a council estate He said he would and I have no reason to believe he wouldn't. She was obviously trying to make him feel uncomfortable so she could feel better about herself.

Nasty woman.

Oh and well done Marcus

they didnt show Charlie picking on Freddie

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Originally posted by fookat:
they didnt show Charlie picking on Freddie

They can’t damage the image of the Golden Scrap metal Boy.

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Originally posted by Blue Diamond:
Lisa is from the gutters; anyone raised in a council estate should be more concern and offended with her remarks.

Fist they came for the Lesbinims.
Then they came for the people sorely affected by a low IQ.
Then they came for the people from the gutters council estates.
..etc.

I haven't seen what they put on the HL show, but I did happen to see most of it when it was on the live feed.

Lisa is an absolute horror! I was impressed that Marcus actually had the guts to say something to her. I agree with the earlier post which said that he wasn't that keen on Noirin's hunger strike either, but that he was disgusted at Lisa'a approach when talking to others. I understand that she was worried about Noirin, but she has absolutely no right to tell her or anyone else what to do, or how to behave. She is convinced that her views are correct, she cannot accept that someone else might be right and shouts them down in the most patronising, agressive way.
The way she spoke to Angel, comparing the situation with Angel allowing a baby to starve was horrible, and also showed HER to be the halfwit!

Her constant picking on Freddie is unfair and unfounded, he is trying his best to fit in, but clearly the pathetic sheep who make up the majority of the HMs will follow Lisa's lead and he will get rejected sooner rather than later.

It was good that Freddie felt a bit braver to speak to up Lisa once Marcus started, but I was also impressed by the way Marcus made it clear he wasn't involving himself in Freddie's problem, and was speaking just for himself.

I hope that Lisa gets nominated this week. I fear this is unlikely, as rather than deal with getting rid of a horrible aggressor, the pack would rather pick off the 'weaker' characters like Freddie and Angel. I hope they can hang in there for a bit longer!

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:
I thought Lisa was dead right!

No one forced Noirin to wear the mask, she was sooooo desperate for her 15 minutes of fame she elected to wear it. It's not her 'identity' oh pleaaaase little girl get over yourself

The others encouraging her to starve herself for three days was ridiculous...good woman Lisa you tell them

And brave boy halfwit for callin her a bloke

Surely she lost all credibility in the row when she started her la la la la la la la stuff. Extremely immature and clearly she had no words to back up her opinions if she resorted to such childish behaviour.

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Originally posted by fookat:
they didnt show Charlie picking on Freddie

I wish they had shown Charlie making a complete arse of himself.

Oh gosh, yes, I'd forgotten that! She really is so immature... pathetic!

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Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:

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Originally posted by fookat:
they didnt show Charlie picking on Freddie

I wish they had shown Charlie making a complete arse of himself.

Me too, seems like they protected him.

He looks like someone stuck a comedy wig and beard on Maxwell

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Originally posted by pigeonpie:

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Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:

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Originally posted by fookat:
they didnt show Charlie picking on Freddie

I wish they had shown Charlie making a complete arse of himself.

Me too, seems like they protected him.

Seems BB has decided that nasty, numpty Charlie will be the golden boy this year. Remember last year it was that snivveling little sneak Luke

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:
I thought Lisa was dead right!

No one forced Noirin to wear the mask, she was sooooo desperate for her 15 minutes of fame she elected to wear it. It's not her 'identity' oh pleaaaase little girl get over yourself

The others encouraging her to starve herself for three days was ridiculous...good woman Lisa you tell them

And brave boy halfwit for callin her a bloke

I think you are seeing what you want to see. NO ONE encouraged Noreen to go on a hunger strike. NO ONE in fact they ALL told her not to do it. Guess you missed that.

Freddie and Angel said they would SUPPORT whatever she decided to do.

Let me put this in a way you could understand it. Freddie and Angel were willing to SUPPORT Noreen and Lisa just wanted to TELL HER WHAT TO DO. (and everyone else)

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Originally posted by Shiver:
He looks like someone stuck a comedy wig and beard on Maxwell

Lololololol. or as lisa would say......

That's a theory that needs testing