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Noirin is gaining lots of airtime, Angel is perceived as a strange, mysterious, interesting character, Karly looks like a dark horse with potential staying power, and Lisa has filled the role central to everything that happens in the house.

Sophie currently looks peripheral to the group, with only her attachment to Kris giving her a position of security at present. We don’t really know how strong her other friendships are. The HL show does indicate that she mixes with everyone, and is well like by her fellow housemates. If the house conflicts disappear, those contributing least to the group will be well and truly on the radar when nominations come round.

Despite this, her odds have steadily improved this week, although no great indicator as yet, it does show that she hasn’t been entirely forgotten. Angel and Noirin currently look like the strongest candidates if the bookies are to be believed, but this is such a long series, and we are still very much at the outset. It takes so little for a female housemate to go from heroine to villain, and there are so many twists and traumas between now and the finale that the pecking order could change. However, Karly does look like the one that could launch a strong challenge, possibly later in the series.

With her relationship with Kris generating little interest, and with Angel, Noirin and Karly all looking likely to bring more to the table than Sophie, what can she do to establish herself as a stronger housemate?

Although I have never expected Sophie to be anything more than an early evictee, I do think it would be a shame to lose her at this time. BB has a knack of finding contestants that surprise, or even change our perceptions; I believe that Sophie has done this to an extent with her seeming lack of ego.

What really fascinates me isn’t related to her chosen career, nor her looks; but the transition that she is going through between adolescence and young adulthood. It’s too simplistic to say she’s done naughty photo-shoots in a hardnosed industry - therefore she must be worldly-wise. For instance, we don’t know how much she still relies upon her mum, and if she has ever been separated from the family unit for such a period of time before. Despite those naughty pictures, for all we know so far, she could be the least worldly and most innocent of the entire group!

I want to see how Sophie handles the pressure that we know BB will throw at the housemates sooner or later. Regardless of what she lacks in the way of conversation and intellect, I see a person that I want to know more about, and I think it will be a massive disappointment should she end up as just another sacrificial lamb, under used, and under estimated by a show currently failing on so many levels.

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You seem to be championing Sophie a lot at the moment, but I feel she has very little to offer. She seems pleasant enough, but very one-dimensional and her character is not interesting enough to warrant the longest stay in the house. Freddie, Angel and Siarvash all have more interesting characters without the disability of bitchiness, so a bitch-free existence alone won't ensure Sophie's triumph. A lot also depends on the dynamics when any new housemates arrive.
jennywren
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Originally posted by jennywren:
You seem to be championing Sophie a lot at the moment, but I feel she has very little to offer. She seems pleasant enough, but very one-dimensional and her character is not interesting enough to warrant the longest stay in the house. Freddie, Angel and Siarvash all have more interesting characters without the disability of bitchiness, so a bitch-free existence alone won't ensure Sophie's triumph. A lot also depends on the dynamics when any new housemates arrive.


I’m still undecided over Siavash. I simply don’t think I have seen enough of him to know whether he will sustain my interest throughout the summer. I do think it would be good for him – and good for those of us, that do want to see more of him, if Sree went, and either Kris or Charlie – an overbearing partnership that urgently requires separation.
Cold Sweat
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Originally posted by jennywren:
You seem to be championing Sophie a lot at the moment, but I feel she has very little to offer. She seems pleasant enough, but very one-dimensional and her character is not interesting enough to warrant the longest stay in the house. Freddie, Angel and Siarvash all have more interesting characters without the disability of bitchiness, so a bitch-free existence alone won't ensure Sophie's triumph. A lot also depends on the dynamics when any new housemates arrive.


Nod
Liverpoollass
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Originally posted by chilligrape:
tho she could go far as she'll fly under the nomination radar. as do all dull contestants



Exactly, maybe unknowinly but if that is her game plan, fairplay. Have a bit of a snog and a romance and keep yer head down. Brilliant tactics.
Sunnie
It’s a shame that we don’t have Diary Room Uncut this season. Over 2 weeks in, and I cannot recall having seen Sophie have a one-to-one chat with BB! So, as far as I am aware, she is enjoying her experience and has no worries or concerns whatsoever. Confused

As suggested, flying under the radar might be her best tactic!
Cold Sweat
Interesting post OP.

I'm not sure how well she's fitting in with the other housemates or really what she's up to apart from slobbering around with Kris.

She's not heavily featured on the highlights show.

That being said, last night there wasn't too much shown of the two possible evictees was there? You'd think they'd show a bit more of Cairon and Freddie to encourage votes one way or another.

A lot of the housemates are being missed out in the edit. I quite often forget that Rodrego is in there (is that his name?), they show very little of him. And as for everyone seemingly liking Siavash - well all I've seen him do is swear a lot and a bit of dancing.

We're not really seeing much of ANY of the housemates. Noirin and Sree has been given a disproportional amount of air time. No doubt they are trying to create a furore outside about him being a stalker or something.

There are a number of housemates that BB have not revealed to us, and they seem to enjoy having us believe that the HMs are very one dimensional.
Towno :)
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Originally posted by Towno Smiler:
Interesting post OP.

I'm not sure how well she's fitting in with the other housemates or really what she's up to apart from slobbering around with Kris.

She's not heavily featured on the highlights show.

That being said, last night there wasn't too much shown of the two possible evictees was there? You'd think they'd show a bit more of Cairon and Freddie to encourage votes one way or another.

A lot of the housemates are being missed out in the edit. I quite often forget that Rodrego is in there (is that his name?), they show very little of him. And as for everyone seemingly liking Siavash - well all I've seen him do is swear a lot and a bit of dancing.

We're not really seeing much of ANY of the housemates. Noirin and Sree has been given a disproportional amount of air time. No doubt they are trying to create a furore outside about him being a stalker or something.

There are a number of housemates that BB have not revealed to us, and they seem to enjoy having us believe that the HMs are very one dimensional.


Regarding this weeks eviction – also odd that the housemates were all in bed so early last night – given that it was the final night in the house for one of them, very subdued.

I believe that Rodrigo will figure heavily in the second half of BB10, he just seems that sort of character that the producers can push with relative ease. They will want a couple of “big” mid-season evictions, and while some of those housemates central to the current narrative are being discussed by FM’s in terms of potential winners, they might be used up quite early to generate interest.
Cold Sweat
I think that Sophie has shown her cards very early with the Heat cover chasing romance with that total waste of space Kris. It's revealing that BB itself, in contrast to previous years, have kicked the relationship to the kerb in terms of coverage.
The other girls have been far more canny, with Noirin picking up huge coverage by avoiding a relationship. Carly has got me guessing but seems to be playing a very clever long game.
captain marbles
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
She is vacuous and only talks about plastic surgery and what more she wants done...



Be fair .....she has also mentioned how excited she is about the wrap party on more than one occasion.

It beats me how anyone can be getting excited about the wrap party .......there's a long way to go yet!

She seems 'nic' enough but 'nice' isn't enough to go the whole way really is it?
Soozy Woo
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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

Regarding this weeks eviction – also odd that the housemates were all in bed so early last night – given that it was the final night in the house for one of them, very subdued. yes I thought that too Nod

I believe that Rodrigo will figure heavily in the second half of BB10, he just seems that sort of character that the producers can push with relative ease. They will want a couple of “big” mid-season evictions, and while some of those housemates central to the current narrative are being discussed by FM’s in terms of potential winners, they might be used up quite early to generate interest.


Good points there. I read a story in the paper about Rodrigo which was more or less saying that he had a hellish temper when he loses it. (of course you can't believe half of what you read). It might work for them (BB)to hold some characters back for a while, it would keep some freshness to the show I guess.

I hope we don't have three months of simply 'hating' this one or that one. I'd love to see all sides to their characters. More one on one chats with BB to see how they really feel about one another/life. Oh and an all night task or three so that they are awake when the live feed comes on at midnight Wink
Towno :)
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Originally posted by Towno Smiler:
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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

Regarding this weeks eviction – also odd that the housemates were all in bed so early last night – given that it was the final night in the house for one of them, very subdued. yes I thought that too Nod

I believe that Rodrigo will figure heavily in the second half of BB10, he just seems that sort of character that the producers can push with relative ease. They will want a couple of “big” mid-season evictions, and while some of those housemates central to the current narrative are being discussed by FM’s in terms of potential winners, they might be used up quite early to generate interest.


Good points there. I read a story in the paper about Rodrigo which was more or less saying that he had a hellish temper when he loses it. (of course you can't believe half of what you read). It might work for them (BB)to hold some characters back for a while, it would keep some freshness to the show I guess.

I hope we don't have three months of simply 'hating' this one or that one. I'd love to see all sides to their characters. More one on one chats with BB to see how they really feel about one another/life. Oh and an all night task or three so that they are awake when the live feed comes on at midnight Wink


Sophie hooking up with Kris so early has given BB a story to mock at a time when the house was incredibly argumentative and negative. Once they have the core of characters set in place- perhaps by the end of week 4, that will carry the series through to it’s conclusion, there should be bigger stories emerging.

I reckon it’s a case of Karly or Sophie for the long haul; but not both. Sophie having made her play too early is already at a disadvantage. Karly already looks like a stronger housemate with a feisty side to her, and has not once taken centre stage.

I’m never a fan of new housemates entering, but I would not be surprised if something very dramatic happens this summer – such as a mass eviction.
Cold Sweat
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Originally posted by captain marbles:
I think that Sophie has shown her cards very early with the Heat cover chasing romance with that total waste of space Kris. It's revealing that BB itself, in contrast to previous years, have kicked the relationship to the kerb in terms of coverage.
The other girls have been far more canny, with Noirin picking up huge coverage by avoiding a relationship. Carly has got me guessing but seems to be playing a very clever long game.


I’m never convinced that housemates are quite as cynical regarding “magazine deals” as this forum suggests they are. Marcus raised an interesting perception when he questioned why each of them had been selected for the show. Perhaps Sophie felt obliged to bring some glamour and romance based upon her selection?

Despite my pessimistic outlook for Sophie as a long term prospect in BB10; thus far, she has thoroughly embraced, this unique once in a lifetime opportunity.
Cold Sweat
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Originally posted by captain marbles:
I think that Sophie has shown her cards very early with the Heat cover chasing romance with that total waste of space Kris. It's revealing that BB itself, in contrast to previous years, have kicked the relationship to the kerb in terms of coverage.
The other girls have been far more canny, with Noirin picking up huge coverage by avoiding a relationship. Carly has got me guessing but seems to be playing a very clever long game.


I think she has shown her cards very early on too. She is just in there for the magazine deals and I think would be quite happy if she went early. She could get the deal earlier then.
Liverpoollass
I don't know why the FM's get so excited about the HM's and what they want out of their time in the house, a few make a few Bob and a few lose out, mainly because they have shown themselves to be nasty people, then they complain to BB that they have been badly edited.

Well although it seems that everyone wants to have a go at Sophie, she wasn't put in the show to be a master of science and maths, more like so we can look at a lovely girl.

Whether she spends time and mixes with all the other HM's is pure speculation and you can't condemn her for that.

We don't see any live feed so how can anybody say whether any and who speaks to whom during the hours we don't see which is from 7am till about 11.55 pm.

So what we see really is Zilch, so don't make your mind up from the 10pm show, because that shows nothing either.
Except it does show an edited version of the HM's and how they want them to be seen.
Hicky
Sophie imo, appears as just another vacuous barbie clone who unfortunatley brings very little to the programme apart from her obviously enhanced assets Ninja

I don't think she's done herself any favours by hooking up with mop heads early as it makes it look like she in it for the 'magazine deals'. Having said that I don't think we see enough of her though to be honest, on her own away from Kris to be able to form a proper opinion. She also doesn't seem to get much air time in the DR.

Karly has on a few occasions shown a fiesty side which shows there is much more to her than just being a proxided piece of eye candy and could be slow burner Nod
FM
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Originally posted by Hicky:

We don't see any live feed so how can anybody say whether any and who speaks to whom during the hours we don't see which is from 7am till about 11.55 pm.

So what we see really is Zilch, so don't make your mind up from the 10pm show, because that shows nothing either.
Except it does show an edited version of the HM's and how they want them to be seen.


I do agree with that. It is very difficult to get a proper impression of the HM's just by watching the HL show. It is making it very hard this year to really form an all rounded opinion.
Liverpoollass
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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
Despite my pessimistic outlook for Sophie as a long term prospect in BB10; thus far, she has thoroughly embraced, this unique once in a lifetime opportunity.

How is she doing that? All I see is a young girl with a pea brain talking about her boobs and future plastic surgery; she doesn't look that comfortable with Kris, but, as she's signed up for the relationship to further her career, she's stuck with it for the forseeable future.
cologne 1
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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
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Originally posted by captain marbles:
I think that Sophie has shown her cards very early with the Heat cover chasing romance with that total waste of space Kris. It's revealing that BB itself, in contrast to previous years, have kicked the relationship to the kerb in terms of coverage.
The other girls have been far more canny, with Noirin picking up huge coverage by avoiding a relationship. Carly has got me guessing but seems to be playing a very clever long game.


I’m never convinced that housemates are quite as cynical regarding “magazine deals” as this forum suggests they are. Marcus raised an interesting perception when he questioned why each of them had been selected for the show. Perhaps Sophie felt obliged to bring some glamour and romance based upon her selection?

Despite my pessimistic outlook for Sophie as a long term prospect in BB10; thus far, she has thoroughly embraced, this unique once in a lifetime opportunity.
There was a huge inevitability about the Kris/Sophie relationship which even led BB to accuse them of a showmance. How much more interesting would she be if she'd avoided this most obvious of pitfalls. Her only hope for any kind of profile in the house is for a spectacular falling out with him and I just dont see that in her generally acquiescent nature.
captain marbles
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Originally posted by cologne1:
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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
Despite my pessimistic outlook for Sophie as a long term prospect in BB10; thus far, she has thoroughly embraced, this unique once in a lifetime opportunity.

How is she doing that? All I see is a young girl with a pea brain talking about her boobs and future plastic surgery; she doesn't look that comfortable with Kris, but, as she's signed up for the relationship to further her career, she's stuck with it for the forseeable future.


Take a look at the clips C4 have placed on youtube and you will see how much fun Sophie has enjoyed over her 2 week stay in the BB house. No sign of hunger strikes, requests to go home, nor heated arguments…

Freddy gave an apt appraisal of Sophie yesterday:

I thought this lass is fun, crazy and adorable
Cold Sweat
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Originally posted by jennywren:
You seem to be championing Sophie a lot at the moment, but I feel she has very little to offer. She seems pleasant enough, but very one-dimensional and her character is not interesting enough to warrant the longest stay in the house. Freddie, Angel and Siarvash all have more interesting characters without the disability of bitchiness, so a bitch-free existence alone won't ensure Sophie's triumph. A lot also depends on the dynamics when any new housemates arrive.


I just get the feeling Sophie is just in the house to boost her glamour girl profile, hoping to get snapped up by the ladsmags, hence the gratuitous wearing of 3 sizes too small bikini's at every opportunity. I don't think she gives a stuff about winning.
Senora Reyes
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Originally posted by captain marbles:
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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
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Originally posted by captain marbles:
I think that Sophie has shown her cards very early with the Heat cover chasing romance with that total waste of space Kris. It's revealing that BB itself, in contrast to previous years, have kicked the relationship to the kerb in terms of coverage.
The other girls have been far more canny, with Noirin picking up huge coverage by avoiding a relationship. Carly has got me guessing but seems to be playing a very clever long game.


I’m never convinced that housemates are quite as cynical regarding “magazine deals” as this forum suggests they are. Marcus raised an interesting perception when he questioned why each of them had been selected for the show. Perhaps Sophie felt obliged to bring some glamour and romance based upon her selection?

Despite my pessimistic outlook for Sophie as a long term prospect in BB10; thus far, she has thoroughly embraced, this unique once in a lifetime opportunity.
There was a huge inevitability about the Kris/Sophie relationship which even led BB to accuse them of a showmance. How much more interesting would she be if she'd avoided this most obvious of pitfalls. Her only hope for any kind of profile in the house is for a spectacular falling out with him and I just dont see that in her generally acquiescent nature.


The only alternative storylines I can imagine, at this stage, would involve Kris either going first or speaking to Sophie as he did to Freddie yesterday, both highly unlikely. Hence why I see Karly as possessing more long term potential.
Cold Sweat
Sophie and Karly were put into the house to add glamour...but Sophie seems to have little but plastic and bad hair to offer...while Karly, who is the more naturally glamourous also appears(we haven't seen much of her), to have both a personality and a brain.
I think Sophie will go as soon as she's nominated
Kaytee
It's hard to be sympathetic towards Sophie's lack of involvement because she's chosen to be Kris's third arm. It's a shame really because she comes across as a nice person. She's really not done herself any favours by involving herself with that idiot.
SpiderMonkey
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Originally posted by Hicky:
I don't know why the FM's get so excited about the HM's and what they want out of their time in the house, a few make a few Bob and a few lose out, mainly because they have shown themselves to be nasty people, then they complain to BB that they have been badly edited.

Well although it seems that everyone wants to have a go at Sophie, she wasn't put in the show to be a master of science and maths, more like so we can look at a lovely girl.

Whether she spends time and mixes with all the other HM's is pure speculation and you can't condemn her for that.

We don't see any live feed so how can anybody say whether any and who speaks to whom during the hours we don't see which is from 7am till about 11.55 pm.

So what we see really is Zilch, so don't make your mind up from the 10pm show, because that shows nothing either.
Except it does show an edited version of the HM's and how they want them to be seen.



Good post and spot on Thumbs Up from what we have seen of her she seems like a nice girl who gets along with them all, BB seem to be portraying certain HM's much more than others, as for the sophie and kris romance I don't think they are going for it like chanelle and ziggy for eg but are just taking their time, far to early to start romances and they both mix with the others and aren't exclusive to each other
jessejay

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