Why do BB demonise intelligence and celebrate stupidity?

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Senora Reyes

The reason I'm asking is after 9 BB's it's pretty obvious that BB always look for a villian, and often the person they choose is always quite intelligent.

Mark my words, even though I'm not a fan Marcus's he will be the villain of this series.

An example of the stupid angle is Charlie, he has not said or done anything remotely interesting, he's at best an overgrown toddler in tight shorts, doing a poundland version of Brian Dowling, yet I keep hearing people saying he's really funny, Sophia said it tonight when she was being interviewed.

I've yet to see an example of his staggering wit, or any sign of reasonable intelligence.
Is it all BB manipulation or could it be all simply down to the edit?

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MrMincePieMember

I think we should have a house full of stuck up HMs like you get on the apprentice

Fight night over GCSEs and getting high on cherryade!

6/12/094:29 PM

Senora ReyesMember 10 years

quote:
Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoePie:
I think we should have a house full of stuck up HMs like you get on the apprentice Fight night over GCSEs and getting high on cherryade!

6/12/094:30 PM

prettycocoaeyesMember 10 years

One has to dumb themselves down to survive in the BB house...

6/12/094:30 PM

Senora ReyesMember 10 years

quote:
Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
One has to dumb themselves down to survive in the BB house...

Seems so.

6/12/094:31 PM

Cold SweatMember 10 years

It amazes me how much post BB work they have given Brian Belo.

Why?

6/12/094:32 PM

Senora ReyesMember 10 years

quote:
Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
It amazes me how much post BB work they have given Brian Belo.

Why?

He fits thier criteria?

6/12/094:33 PM

Jeggo (Ben`s Buddy/Member of JJ`s LS]Member

Davina has always boosted up that sector of society - its so patronising

6/12/094:51 PM

Senora ReyesMember 10 years

quote:
Originally posted by Jeggo:
Davina has always boosted up that sector of society - its so patronising

Agreed.

6/12/094:52 PM

CrannogMember

quote:
Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
It amazes me how much post BB work they have given Brian Belo.

Why?

and Nikki...and Charlie (see a pattern forming here

)

6/12/095:04 PM

jennywrenMember

Simples.

This year, all but 3 of the housemates (including the evicted Sohpia) were of below average intelligence.

Take that as a sample and you could say, statistically, that entering BB appeals mostly to those of sub-normal intelligence.

6/12/096:21 PM

jennywrenMember

quote:
Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
One has to dumb themselves down to survive in the BB house...

One has to dumb oneself down to survive in Great Britain.

6/12/096:23 PM

subatomic partygirlMember

quote:
Mark my words, even though I'm not a fan Marcus's he will be the villain of this series.

Fair do's...he's even sporting the Victorian melodrama villain facial hair (I even want to keep calling him 'Sir Tarquin' or summat until he opens his less-than-top-drawer gob)

I'm getting the impression (for a long time) that production don't do subtleties re. casting.

6/12/096:29 PM

halMember

quote:
Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
It amazes me how much post BB work they have given Brian Belo.

Why?

easily manipulated?
though who's manipulating whom?
that applies across the board
the agendas complement each other

6/12/098:21 PM

halMember

quote:
Originally posted by jennywren:
quote:
Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
One has to dumb themselves down to survive in the BB house...

One has to dumb oneself down to survive in Great Britain.

being clever or intelligent is not the done thing perhaps

it triggers some deep seated neanderthal's survival instincts

6/12/098:23 PM

paaceMember

Sad to say but most television is aimed for the lowest common denominator.

6/13/0912:12 AM

Former Member

Because so many people aspire to so little. Only Z-lebrity is where it's at. And mediocrity rules.

The Jade Goody phenomenon opened up the show to a whole new kind of HM......pretty much everyone who enters that House wants to be the next mega BB success story (on the back of no discernible talent). I'm sure most of them think "if SHE could do it, why not me?"

And don't even get me started on the showmances.....

6/13/092:10 AM

bozzimacooMember

quote:
Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
The reason I'm asking is after 9 BB's it's pretty obvious that BB always look for a villian, and often the person they choose is always quite intelligent.

Mark my words, even though I'm not a fan Marcus's he will be the villain of this series.

An example of the stupid angle is Charlie, he has not said or done anything remotely interesting, he's at best an overgrown toddler in tight shorts, doing a poundland version of Brian Dowling, yet I keep hearing people saying he's really funny, Sophia said it tonight when she was being interviewed.

I've yet to see an example of his staggering wit, or any sign of reasonable intelligence.
Is it all BB manipulation or could it be all simply down to the edit?

think they are appealing to the teen market, accelerating the dumbing down... or maybe the dumping down the toilet....

6/13/092:19 AM

Reality JunkieMember

quote:
Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
The reason I'm asking is after 9 BB's it's pretty obvious that BB always look for a villian, and often the person they choose is always quite intelligent.

Mark my words, even though I'm not a fan Marcus's he will be the villain of this series.

No Lisa is the villan. Marcus uses voice of reason. She doesnt even know what that means.

6/15/091:52 AM

sciencewasrobbedMember

Two years in a row the HM with highest IQ is evicted first. (am not counting lovely Bene as she was not an official HM)Sophia this year and last year Stephanie had highest IQ and they were first out..

6/15/091:52 AM

LiverpoollassMember

quote:
Originally posted by jennywren:
quote:
Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
One has to dumb themselves down to survive in the BB house...

One has to dumb oneself down to survive in Great Britain.

I think you're right there Jenny. The slightest whiff of intelligence and you are a marked man/woman.

6/15/091:52 AM

Garage JoeMember

quote:
Originally posted by jennywren:
quote:
Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
One has to dumb themselves down to survive in the BB house...

One has to dumb oneself down to survive in Great Britain.

I believe the opposite to be true. One has to avoid dumbing down to survive.

6/15/091:58 AM

HollygolightlyMember

quote:
Originally posted by sciencewasrobbed:
Two years in a row the HM with highest IQ is evicted first. (am not counting lovely Bene as she was not an official HM)Sophia this year and last year Stephanie had highest IQ and they were first out..

Morning Science, if Stephanie had the highest IQ, there must be something wrong with those IQ tests.

I am genuinely gobsmacked.

6/15/092:10 AM

Towno :)Member

Superior intelligence would alienate a lot of the viewing public.

They like to feel superior when housemates don't even know how many days there are in a year, or if there is chicken in chick peas, and of course if East Angular is abroad. Then it's funny.

Having to listen to intelligent conversation / debate would turn a lot of their demographic away. They just want to see t&a, a good row and the housemates getting smashed on booze.

Having said that, I do enjoy a good barny

6/15/092:28 AM

LiverpoollassMember

quote:
Originally posted by Towno :
Superior intelligence would alienate a lot of the viewing public.

They like to feel superior when housemates don't even know how many days there are in a year, or if there is chicken in chick peas, and of course if East Angular is abroad. Then it's funny.

Having to listen to intelligent conversation / debate would turn a lot of their demographic away. They just want to see t&a, a good row and the housemates getting smashed on booze.

Having said that, I do enjoy a good barny

Spot on

6/15/092:30 AM

Jeggo (Ben`s Buddy/Member of JJ`s LS]Member

quote:
Originally posted by paace:
Sad to say but most television is aimed for the lowest common denominator.

So true - and so is our so called `Welfare State` ! I could write a book on this so I`d better not even start !

6/15/092:43 AM

jennywrenMember

quote:
Originally posted by hal:
quote:
Originally posted by jennywren:
quote:
Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
One has to dumb themselves down to survive in the BB house...

One has to dumb oneself down to survive in Great Britain.

being clever or intelligent is not the done thing perhaps
it triggers some deep seated neanderthal's survival instincts

Being intelligent is not the done thing for most people because the majority don't understand what it is to have high intelligence.

For the past 30 years, various governments (Tory and Labour) have done all they could to iron out high intelligence and pander to the great majority who have average intelligence. Cultured accents and polite behaviour are associated with high intelligence and these have also been cast out of favour.

However, polite behaviour, in particular, is not in the gift of only those with high intelligence, so all this dumbing-down has backfired somewhat.

6/15/092:45 AM

jennywrenMember

quote:
Originally posted by bozzimacoo:
quote:
Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
The reason I'm asking is after 9 BB's it's pretty obvious that BB always look for a villian, and often the person they choose is always quite intelligent.

Mark my words, even though I'm not a fan Marcus's he will be the villain of this series.

An example of the stupid angle is Charlie, he has not said or done anything remotely interesting, he's at best an overgrown toddler in tight shorts, doing a poundland version of Brian Dowling, yet I keep hearing people saying he's really funny, Sophia said it tonight when she was being interviewed.

I've yet to see an example of his staggering wit, or any sign of reasonable intelligence.
Is it all BB manipulation or could it be all simply down to the edit?

think they are appealing to the teen market, accelerating the dumbing down... or maybe the dumping down the toilet....

The strange thing is, I don't think BB does particularly cater to the teen market. This forum, for example, seems to be populated mainly by 30-50 somethings who are interested in the interractions of the housemates.

The teen market is possibly interested in the arguments and anything else which might seem rebellious, but I don't think the teen market is in the majority.

6/15/092:47 AM

jennywrenMember

quote:
Originally posted by Garage Joe:
quote:
Originally posted by jennywren:
quote:
Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
One has to dumb themselves down to survive in the BB house...

One has to dumb oneself down to survive in Great Britain.

I believe the opposite to be true. One has to avoid dumbing down to survive.

Let me understand you: you think speaking in a well-modulated voice, having good manners and displaying high intelligence are universally applauded in Britain these days?

6/15/092:50 AM

jennywrenMember

quote:
Originally posted by Smoke:
But, in fact, if everybody - absolutely everybody - had dumbed down then nobody would know - and they might even think they'd dumbed up.

Exactly.

6/15/092:51 AM

ClumsycatMember

absolutely , sick of seeing idiots & thickos

6/15/093:37 AM

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