Do the BBC so called stars have a right to complain about their pay cuts?

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Poolshark

I've just been reading about these so called stars who were summoned to a meeting with the BBC heads, and they thought they were turning up at some champers and canapes event only to be told that their huge pay deals would be lashed some by up to 50%

. This is to save costs and the fact that we are in a creit crunch recession, apparently some of the so called stars were shocked and may now be looking to move to other channels to renogoiate their deals, beariig in mind tha our licences pay their wages I think they should be ashamed of themselves, apparently Brucie who earned £900,000 last year, is now considering leaving the BBC after learning he may only get a measley £500,000 a year now, oh how my heart bleeds for him!, what's your opinion?

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CroctacusMember

In a free market everyone is entitled to moan about their pay and look elsewhere for a better deal if thats what they want.

6/11/091:35 AM

LockesMember

I cant understand how the credit crunch is really affecting them ......they dont rely on advertising revenue and the last time I looked my licence fee hadnt gone down

6/11/091:37 AM

LiverpoollassMember

They have a right to complain, like everyone else. Unfortunately, we are in a major recession and they should be lucky they have a job and are earning the amounts they are earning.

Some of us haven't had a pay rise for a few years

6/11/091:39 AM

PoolsharkMember

After reading the publics comments over 200 of them on the Daily Mail website, I thinnk i read about 3 that supported the celebs, the rest were outraged at overpaid celebs earning what they ear and moaning about haviing to take pay cuts, in my opinion if you are earning over £40,000 pa then you are doing well to start with depending on your circumstances.

6/11/091:42 AM

swgMember

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I cant understand how the credit crunch is really affecting them ......they dont rely on advertising revenue and the last time I looked my licence fee hadnt gone down Confused

but the companies that produce the programmes aren't funded by the licence payers, when they put their prices up the costs of the BBC rise

6/11/091:42 AM

LiverpoollassMember

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Originally posted by Poolshark:
After reading the publics comments over 200 of them on the Daily Mail website, I thinnk i read about 3 that supported the celebs, the rest were outraged at overpaid celebs earning what they ear and moaning about haviing to take pay cuts, in my opinion if you are earning over £40,000 pa then you are doing well to start with depending on your circumstances.

Exactly. I mean, look at what Jonathan Ross earns

I know he could be the exception, but most of them are on grossly high salaries to start with. A pay cut is not going to kill them and as I said they should be lucky they are in employment.

6/11/091:44 AM

Former Member

Where do they think they will go? Channel 4 is begging to get part of the license fee as they are about to go under. ITV has cut their programming and are thinking of selling some of their channels to Sky. There is no where for them to go.

These "stars" may be good at what they do, but it's hardly brain surgery, is it? There will always be someone younger, fresher and cheaper to take over.

6/11/091:50 AM

Mount Olympus *Olly*Member 10 years

Suppose the problem is the same for them as it is with anybody.. no matter how little or how much you earn your lifestyle matches your income in most households. .

if it dramatically changes it can have the same consequences rich or poor..

6/11/092:03 AM

Garage JoeMember

Yes they do!
However if I was someone like J. Ross I probably wouldn't be making much of a song and dance. His recent appearence on the Apprentice made him look even more of a cock than he did, if that were ever possible.

6/11/092:12 AM

PoolsharkMember

Still even if you were earning over £100,000 a year and living in London I guess that's still a good wage, and that's just their main income, then there is voiceover work, advertising, side shows, the list is endless and all the freebies chucked at them along with free food and drink given to them at all these dumb parties and events and openings they go to, I see no reason to complain.

6/11/092:19 AM

LiverpoollassMember

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Originally posted by Poolshark:
Still even if you were earning over £100,000 a year and living in London I guess that's still a good wage, and that's just their main income, then there is voiceover work, advertising, side shows, the list is endless and all the freebies chucked at them along with free food and drink given to them at all these dumb parties and events and openings they go to, I see no reason to complain.

Agree.

Also, everyone else who has either had a pay freeze or a pay cut, has to cope and adjust their living standards accordingly. Why shouldn't they? People are losing their jobs and homes, with no prospects in sight. These people should thank their lucky stars.

6/11/092:21 AM

ilovewillyoungMember

Pool ot how did the interveiws go on Tues?

6/11/092:36 AM

PoolsharkMember

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Originally posted by ilovewillyoung:
Pool ot how did the interveiws go on Tues?

I'm going to be putting a proper thread up tomorrow, just waiting for 1 more call which should be comiing today.

6/11/092:43 AM

captain marblesMember

It's odd how the deals for celebs are public knowledge but people like John Humphreys are allowed to hector MPs about their pay while refusing to disclose their own earnings.

6/11/093:05 AM

Garage JoeMember

Perhaps Jonathan Ross et al could declare a strike for a determined time. They would receive my fraternal support.

6/11/093:16 AM

~Orchid~Member

This is just window dressing. Sure the 'stars' are getting pay cuts of up to 50% but they'll probably just get that back in 'bonuses'.

I think the real deal here is that after the MP's expenses scandal there were efforts to open up BBC finances to public scrutiny and the BBC have made moves to have any scrutiny stopped. By initiating this 'wage cutting' excercise, I suspect they are merely trying to head off any enquiry into how they spend public money.

6/11/093:21 AM

captain marblesMember

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Originally posted by ~Orchid~:
This is just window dressing. Sure the 'stars' are getting pay cuts of up to 50% but they'll probably just get that back in 'bonuses'.

I think the real deal here is that after the MP's expenses scandal there were efforts to open up BBC finances to public scrutiny and the BBC have made moves to have any scrutiny stopped. By initiating this 'wage cutting' excercise, I suspect they are merely trying to head off any enquiry into how they spend public money.

Spot on Orchid.

There's no mention of any of the management having their wages cut in half either.

6/11/093:26 AM

~Orchid~Member

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Originally posted by captain marbles:
quote:
Originally posted by ~Orchid~:
This is just window dressing. Sure the 'stars' are getting pay cuts of up to 50% but they'll probably just get that back in 'bonuses'.

I think the real deal here is that after the MP's expenses scandal there were efforts to open up BBC finances to public scrutiny and the BBC have made moves to have any scrutiny stopped. By initiating this 'wage cutting' excercise, I suspect they are merely trying to head off any enquiry into how they spend public money.
Spot on Orchid. There's no mention of any of the management having their wages cut in half either.

Do you think we ought to contact The Telegraph?

6/11/093:29 AM

ilovewillyoungMember

quote:
Originally posted by Poolshark:
quote:
Originally posted by ilovewillyoung:
Pool ot how did the interveiws go on Tues?

I'm going to be putting a proper thread up tomorrow, just waiting for 1 more call which should be comiing today.

ok, best of luck

6/11/093:34 AM

LiverpoollassMember

quote:
Originally posted by ~Orchid~:
This is just window dressing. Sure the 'stars' are getting pay cuts of up to 50% but they'll probably just get that back in 'bonuses'.

I think the real deal here is that after the MP's expenses scandal there were efforts to open up BBC finances to public scrutiny and the BBC have made moves to have any scrutiny stopped. By initiating this 'wage cutting' excercise, I suspect they are merely trying to head off any enquiry into how they spend public money.

Totally agree Orchid

6/11/094:08 AM

squiggleMember 10 years

I think as licence fee payers we should have more of an input. My own view is that its time to end the BBC monopoly and scrap the licence fee now. I think they are abusing the system, was it the last Olympics that they sent more to cover the event than sportspeople taking part?

6/11/094:18 AM

Garage JoeMember

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Originally posted by squiggle:
I think as licence fee payers we should have more of an input. My own view is that its time to end the BBC monopoly and scrap the licence fee now. I think they are abusing the system, was it the last Olympics that they sent more to cover the event than sportspeople taking part?

I'm not sure whether everyone can aford the alternative. I think that the licence fee works out at less than £3 a week. That's the price of one pint of foaming real ale from a Whitby hostelry.

For that you get Radio 1,2,3,4,5. and lots of the best telly in the world. Compare and contrast to how much you pay for ITV and Sky. In fact, does anyone know how much we pay for ITV?

6/11/094:32 AM

Teddy BleadsMember

I have no problem with the licence fee, but I do think that the BBc should have a VERY LIMITED programme buying budget and focus more of its money on making programmes in the UK. There are plenty of other channels to show imports, I'd rather they concentrared on supporting our own production industry wich is in a big, big poo right now.

6/11/094:38 AM

KayteeMember 10 years

The Beeb's 'stars' are overpaid, but what about the cosy club that is BBC management? Surely their salaries should be open to public scrutiny as well as those of the likes of idiot Ross?

6/11/094:44 AM

PoolsharkMember

The point is should someone like Brucie get £900,000 a year to stand and talk to a camera about some crap celebs trying to dance when all they are after is more xposure, should Woss get £6 million a year to insult people, should newreaders get over £100,000 a year to read off an autocue, when is it justifiable, even at 40% off £900,000 I could live on that easily.

6/11/094:57 AM

squiggleMember 10 years

I think salaries (for all staff AND 'talent') have become grossly bloated. We have had to have a huge dustup in the House of Commons. Perhaps we also need to shine the light now on where our money goes at the Beeb.

6/11/094:59 AM

Garage JoeMember

quote:
Originally posted by squiggle:
I think salaries (for all staff AND 'talent') have become grossly bloated. We have had to have a huge dustup in the House of Commons. Perhaps we also need to shine the light now on where our money goes at the Beeb.

I think we need to know where our money goes, full stop!

I know it left the North East, and headed for London. Then it went into a load of tax-free offshore accounts. We seem to have lost track of it since then.

6/11/095:09 AM

PoolsharkMember

I just read that Brucie is now in talks and is on about leaving Strictly because he said it's not worth being paid £400,000 to present the show instead of the £900,000, apparently it's also down to a heavy workload that the show entails!!!!. Heavy work load, I bet he's never done a hard days work in his life!!!!. What a bllinkin cheek, I'll do it for less than that, even £100,000 A YEAR!

6/11/095:19 AM

squiggleMember 10 years

quote:
Originally posted by Poolshark:
I just read that Brucie is now in talks and is on about leaving Strictly because he said it's not worth being paid £400,000 to present the show instead of the £900,000, apparently it's also down to a heavy workload that the show entails!!!!. Heavy work load, I bet he's never done a hard days work in his life!!!!. What a bllinkin cheek, I'll do it for less than that, even £100,000 A YEAR!

I hear Lionel Blair wants to do it, perhaps he will do it much cheaper, he might be good.

6/11/096:03 AM

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