This is what I like about Sophie and Karly. They are there for the experience, not trying to outdo one another just like the twins were.

I think Lisa is top dog for the moment and will remain so until she is evicted.

Dogface is a puppy and will just follow the crowd as will Angel.

Noirin may attempt a coup but will be defeated by Lisa shouting "la la la la la la".

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Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:
I think Lisa is top dog for the moment and will remain so until she is evicted.

Dogface is a puppy and will just follow the crowd as will Angel.

Noirin may attempt a coup but will be defeated by Lisa shouting "la la la la la la".

I agree about Lisa. Not so sure about Angel. She has shown she has balls when she stood up to the group after they hid Freddy's mattress. Unfortunately, she is being over-shadowed by the over-bearing Lisa. I cannot see Noirin being the alpha female. Perhaps Karley?

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:
I think Lisa is top dog for the moment and will remain so until she is evicted.

Dogface is a puppy and will just follow the crowd as will Angel.

Noirin may attempt a coup but will be defeated by Lisa shouting "la la la la la la".

I agree about Lisa. Not so sure about Angel. She has shown she has balls when she stood up to the group after they hid Freddy's mattress. Unfortunately, she is being over-shadowed by the over-bearing Lisa. I cannot see Noirin being the alpha female. Perhaps Karley?

Virtually everyone is being over shadowed by Lisa.

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Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:

Virtually everyone is being over shadowed by Lisa.

Even the wussy men, well apart from Marcus who stood up to him

It is such a fine line that female housemates tread once they put themselves forward. I recall during BB8, the only female likely to challenge the dominance of Carole was Nicky; but suddenly, and fatally, she became “sneaky” Nicky, and that was the end of her.

I wonder how difficult Lisa will be to remove.

It's significant that Angel has chosen this point in the show to do her fast/detox. To me this has got very little to do with any health benefits and is more about the ancient warrior ritual of purification before battle. I think we may see a more combatative Angel very soon and Lisa will be the one she battles.

I dont think the other woman in the house would take any notice of Angel if she was trying to be top dog ,but I do find it interesting she wants to go on hunger strike for three days to prove it can be done her words not mine nothing was mentioned by her about detox,it could be her way of getting the attention from the others but I think all it will do is backfire on her, she has no need to prove to anyone it can be done I think it is a bad move on her part,I also think Karly is the one to watch if Lisa gets evicted I think she will be the one to take over as top dog .

Angel is pretty opinionated but the other girls don't really respect her that much. Karly Sophie and Noirin are all too laid back to really want to be leaders.

I think Karly will be the one to push ahead once Lisa has been ousted. Sophie is just window dressing, although Noirin could try and assert herself more in the next couple of weeks. She's got rid of the glasses and will feel stronger now.

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Originally posted by cologne1:
I think Karly will be the one to push ahead once Lisa has been ousted. Sophie is just window dressing, although Noirin could try and assert herself more in the next couple of weeks. She's got rid of the glasses and will feel stronger now.

Well, the show is a marathon (unless it gets pulled ), and there could be lots more to Karly that will slowly unravel throughout the summer.

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Originally posted by captain marbles:
It's significant that Angel has chosen this point in the show to do her fast/detox. To me this has got very little to do with any health benefits and is more about the ancient warrior ritual of purification before battle. I think we may see a more combatative Angel very soon and Lisa will be the one she battles.

i thought the main reason for it, was to make a point to lisa after the manner in which she spoke to her during the fasting debacle...

We haven't heard too much from Karly in the last few days. When the camera does pick her up she usually looks deep in thought, watchful. I think there could be more to her. We know she's not the most intelligent HM, that was proven with the 'german' conversation, but she may be the most streetwise, certainly more willing to listen than Lisa.

....anyone who's shown spirit like she did in the dr, is no pushover

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Originally posted by hal:

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Originally posted by captain marbles:
It's significant that Angel has chosen this point in the show to do her fast/detox. To me this has got very little to do with any health benefits and is more about the ancient warrior ritual of purification before battle. I think we may see a more combatative Angel very soon and Lisa will be the one she battles.

i thought the main reason for it, was to make a point to lisa after the manner in which she spoke to her during the fasting debacle...

I thought that too. And ......I think it wont be long before Karly makes a challenge to be Alpha female IMO ......can't really see Sophie, Angel or Noireen going for it but I believe that there's an awful lot more to Karley than we've seen so far.

The problem is Lisa knows who to pick on and she knows not to pick on Karly if she did Karly would shoot her down in burning flames....

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Originally posted by stonks:
The problem is Lisa knows who to pick on and she knows not to pick on Karly if she did Karly would shoot her down in burning flames....

its not a problem...

lisa is only psuedo alpha 'male' hehe....those that can is in no rush, unless they need to

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i thought the main reason for it, was to make a point to lisa after the manner in which she spoke to her during the fasting debacle...

You thought that because that IS the reason.

Unlike some people you actually are listening to Angel and not prescribing your own inability to accept others for who they are and accept that maybe just maybe they are capable of running their own lives.

Even though many people who have fasted for 3 or more days and given witness to the FACT that you feel better from it NOT worse they still bang on with their myopic view of the world.

I feel really sad for people who can't learn from others experiences. They'll turn out like LISA!

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Originally posted by hal:

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Originally posted by captain marbles:
It's significant that Angel has chosen this point in the show to do her fast/detox. To me this has got very little to do with any health benefits and is more about the ancient warrior ritual of purification before battle. I think we may see a more combatative Angel very soon and Lisa will be the one she battles.

i thought the main reason for it, was to make a point to lisa after the manner in which she spoke to her during the fasting debacle...

Absolutely. She was showing Lisa she wouldn`t be told what to do by her. She didn`t need words. Her actions spoke louder.