What am I missing in Charlie?

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brisket

I can`t stand Charlie.
I think he is a horrible person, and one of the worst-ever BB contestants.
I know people see things differently. For example it is both amusing and surprising that the people in the house read a situation very differently from the viewers.
I also know that opinions are subjective and that one person`s meat is another person`s poison.
But I am baffled about how some people see Charlie.
I cannot see one single redeeming feature in Charlie.
And yet some of the guests in various off-shoot programmes have described him as "a lovely boy", "very nice indeed", "genuine and dead honest", "wouldn`t hurt anyone", "doesn`t say a bad word about anybody", "a really nice fellow."

Now it seems to me that there is a wide discrepancy in what they say and what I think.
It surprises me that some people see him as a wonderful, genuine, thoughtful, honest chap, and that I do not.
Of course I think they are very bad judges and that I am right.
But I cannot see how they have formed their opinion.

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Teo PuffMember

quote:
Originally posted by brisket:
I can`t stand Charlie.
I think he is a horrible person, and one of the worst-ever BB contestants.
I know people see things differently. For example it is both amusing and surprising that the people in the house read a situation very differently from the viewers.
I also know that opinions are subjective and that one person`s meat is another person`s poison.
But I am baffled about how some people see Charlie.
I cannot see one single redeeming feature in Charlie.
And yet some of the guests in various off-shoot programmes have described him as "a lovely boy", "very nice indeed", "genuine and dead honest", "wouldn`t hurt anyone", "doesn`t say a bad word about anybody", "a really nice fellow."

Now it seems to me that there is a wide discrepancy in what they say and what I think.
It surprises me that some people see him as a wonderful, genuine, thoughtful, honest chap, and that I do not.
Of course I think they are very bad judges and that I am right.
But I cannot see how they have formed their opinion.

I agree with you, you're right and they're wrong.

9/2/096:35 AM

bigbawsMember

The man on BBBM put it well, he is trying to be a proffesional gay

9/2/096:35 AM

langsterMember

I agree.

I think there are various reasons to explain it. Some people are genuinely blinded by anything he does that we would consider to be hurtful, nasty etc. They would side with him on any issue, almost in an obsessive/love type way.

Some just ignore his bad side and choose to only see the good in him and some people behave exactly the same themselves so can't see that he is doing anything wrong. It's the same every year with EVERY housemate to a certain extent. But some people are very poor judges of character, or they have poor insight and observation skills and they like Charlie have very poor self awareness and think they never do anything wrong. "I'm dead nice me" Yeah rrrrrrrrriggggght!

9/2/096:38 AM

DemantoidMember

You're not missing anything, brisket, It's people who haven't watched him closely enough who are missing the whole picture.

9/2/096:42 AM

Senora ReyesMember 10 years

quote:
Originally posted by brisket:
I can`t stand Charlie.
I think he is a horrible person, and one of the worst-ever BB contestants.
I know people see things differently. For example it is both amusing and surprising that the people in the house read a situation very differently from the viewers.
I also know that opinions are subjective and that one person`s meat is another person`s poison.
But I am baffled about how some people see Charlie.
I cannot see one single redeeming feature in Charlie.
And yet some of the guests in various off-shoot programmes have described him as "a lovely boy", "very nice indeed", "genuine and dead honest", "wouldn`t hurt anyone", "doesn`t say a bad word about anybody", "a really nice fellow."

Now it seems to me that there is a wide discrepancy in what they say and what I think.
It surprises me that some people see him as a wonderful, genuine, thoughtful, honest chap, and that I do not.
Of course I think they are very bad judges and that I am right.
But I cannot see how they have formed their opinion.

Brisket I have always respected your opinion as a forumer, and even when we do not agree, you never get personal or behave like a numpty. The fact that you are once again spot on regarding Charlie reinforces my point about you.

9/2/096:42 AM

Former Member

If someone can explain it, I would be most happy to hear about it too.

9/2/096:45 AM

riversiderMember

Obviously Charlie's act works for some viewers, though probably not for those who watch carefully/a lot.

I cannot stand his act. He is completely unspontaneous so when things don't go as he expects them to he just freezes up, goes silent and chews his lip frantically.
Loved it last night when, in anticipation of being evicted, he whipped his t shirt off. a nano second later Lisa's name was called and shirt back on. Obviously Charlie plans to be evicted bare-chested for the photos.

9/2/096:47 AM

KayteeMember 10 years

I agree with Brisket and the FMs here. He's a nasty, selfish, spoiled oaf...I can't understand how anybody can say he's nice, or genuine.

Maybe all the panellists etc, have been told to promote Charlie as BB's 'chosen one'

9/2/096:49 AM

brisketMember Memoriam

quote:
Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
Brisket I have always respected your opinion as a forumer, and even when we do not agree, you never get personal or behave like a numpty. The fact that you are once again spot on regarding Charlie reinforces my point about you.

Thank you Senora for your comments about this thread and your more general comments.
I equally have the greatest respect for your posts.
Oh my Senora, we are so civilised aren`t we?

9/2/096:49 AM

mummymazMember

quote:
Originally posted by riversider:
Obviously Charlie's act works for some viewers, though probably not for those who watch carefully/a lot.

I cannot stand his act. He is completely unspontaneous so when things don't go as he expects them to he just freezes up, goes silent and chews his lip frantically.
Loved it last night when, in anticipation of being evicted, he whipped his t shirt off. a nano second later Lisa's name was called and shirt back on. Obviously Charlie plans to be evicted bare-chested for the photos.

not that i am defending him - i despise him!! But i think he had another t-shirt for his Eviction behind the sofa xx

9/2/096:51 AM

Dame_Ann_AverageMember VIP10 years

I can only assume they are just watching the highlights and not any live feed. I too can't find one redeeming quality in Charlie!

9/2/096:51 AM

Senora ReyesMember 10 years

quote:
Originally posted by brisket:
quote:
Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
Brisket I have always respected your opinion as a forumer, and even when we do not agree, you never get personal or behave like a numpty. The fact that you are once again spot on regarding Charlie reinforces my point about you.

Thank you Senora for your comments about this thread and your more general comments.
I equally have the greatest respect for your posts.
Oh my Senora, we are so civilised aren`t we?

9/2/096:51 AM

**Nipple Twister**Member

I think Charlie is a sneeky little rat cant stand him.

9/2/096:55 AM

riversiderMember

quote:
Originally posted by Mummy Maz:
quote:
Originally posted by riversider:
Obviously Charlie's act works for some viewers, though probably not for those who watch carefully/a lot.

I cannot stand his act. He is completely unspontaneous so when things don't go as he expects them to he just freezes up, goes silent and chews his lip frantically.
Loved it last night when, in anticipation of being evicted, he whipped his t shirt off. a nano second later Lisa's name was called and shirt back on. Obviously Charlie plans to be evicted bare-chested for the photos.

not that i am defending him - i despise him!! But i think he had another t-shirt for his Eviction behind the sofa xx

That would figure. Thanks

9/2/096:56 AM

AngelMember

Imo, anyone with an ounce of insight should be able to see straight through him.

I'm not saying he's a through and through bad bast*** or anything like that .... but as others have pointed out, his true character comes shining through when things don't quite go his way ..... and all that acting in the diary room is just cringeworthy beyond belief

He would like us to think he is all sweetness and light .... but we have observed and learnt otherwise

9/2/096:56 AM

MargueritaMember

Attention seeker at its worse and a very jealous guy an awful combination in ones personality.

9/2/097:00 AM

AngelMember

quote:
Attention seeker at its worse and a very jealous guy

Yup .... remember when David and Lisa came back from London & they were telling the group where they had been and what they had got up to ............ Charlie couldn't stand it ...... very interesting to watch though

9/2/097:04 AM

brisketMember Memoriam

I will never forget the night he said (I think it was to Marcus) "I have always got what I want."
I suspect that explains a lot.

9/2/097:06 AM

kimotaMember 10 years

Although never one of my faves, I gave Charlie the benefit of the doubt early on. He seemed to be just a cheeky, slightly dim fun loving party boy and of course that is part of what he is so its not suprising that some people just see that.
It took me a while to see the spitefulness and desperation to win that lurked close to the surface and I'm sure some more casual viewers won't have seen that even at this late date!

9/2/097:08 AM

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