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Ok Marcus fans I'm ready for ya's! Wink

I am not cussing him, just my take on Marcus over 11 weeks.

Here's the thing, Marcus deep down does have a good heart,(Unlike Lisa who is selfish to the core) but listening to him sometimes late on LF, you get the impression, he had a bit of a rough time as a child. He's often said he felt unloved as a child, and trust is a huge deal with him (Hence the irrational hatred of Siavash regarding Noirin) He's also said no one ever does anything for him, and he always goes out of his way for friends and they end up pissing on him. Marcus lacks confidence, despite the bravado he puts out there.

He also doesn't speak to his brother for whatever reason, and to me sounds as if he grew up amid a lot of dysfunction, notice he never speaks of his father.

Marcus has a lot of anger and bitterness from his past, and in one way I think he uses humour to cover a lot of his pain. I hope in the future he gets the right type of counselling, it will help him to be the person he keeps hidden, that person is far more attractive than angry bitter Marcus.

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well said Senora, I saw that in him from near enough day 1, some people just look at the outside and are FAR too quick to judge, I said it weeks ago and I STILL say it, he is the ONLY one who has been true to himself from day 1 and as such the ONLY worthy winner IMO
IF he goes 2morrow then thats BB OVER for me, couldn't bear to see ANY ONE of the others win it as they are ALL arseholes IMO,
old hippy guy
I agree. I dont particularly like him, but I also believe he has a good heart in amongst the bravado. And bravado is what it is - he cant look anyone in the eye really, and I've noticed more and more, the closer he's getting to the final, he's got this nervous 'cough' and he's breathing very heavy. As much as it probably sounds stupid, the 'cough' thing is a big give away in my book - like he's got a dry throat all of a sudden
I'm probably not making myself very clear. I dont think he THINKS he will win, I think he's more in shock than anything
BS
I agree in most of what you have said Senora... Marcus' biggest issue is the fear of rejection... I know this from personal experience it does not manifest in the same way as it does marcus.People deal with this in different ways! He felt IMO, rejected by Norin but he blames Siavash for that.
Oddly enough quite often what you fear actually comes about!....It's too late to go into this !
F
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Originally posted by Mollie:
In fairness, I think many of them have had a hard time in their childhoods... each person has different coping skills..

I don't like the way marcus behaves..doesn't mean i think he is a bad person, he's not... but he needs to grow up!


He needs counselling. Sometimes amidst all the ranting that he does I see sadness, even when he's joking.
Senora Reyes
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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
well said Senora, I saw that in him from near enough day 1, some people just look at the outside and are FAR too quick to judge, I said it weeks ago and I STILL say it, he is the ONLY one who has been true to himself from day 1 and as such the ONLY worthy winner IMO
IF he goes 2morrow then thats BB OVER for me, couldn't bear to see ANY ONE of the others win it as they are ALL arseholes IMO,



Aww Hippy Don't leave us! Frowner I understand how you feel.Most of those left in are not there on merit but simply due to numbers! It was very much weighted against the real,true characters this year.Only the flotsome and jetsome,the rubbish left on the outgoing tide will be left! There is no wonder that BB has sadly gone down the pan!You are welcome to join us on the fredster thread at any time! Hug
F
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Originally posted by figtree:
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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
well said Senora, I saw that in him from near enough day 1, some people just look at the outside and are FAR too quick to judge, I said it weeks ago and I STILL say it, he is the ONLY one who has been true to himself from day 1 and as such the ONLY worthy winner IMO
IF he goes 2morrow then thats BB OVER for me, couldn't bear to see ANY ONE of the others win it as they are ALL arseholes IMO,



Aww Hippy Don't leave us! Frowner I understand how you feel.Most of those left in are not there on merit but simply due to numbers! It was very much weighted against the real,true characters this year.Only the flotsome and jetsome,the rubbish left on the outgoing tide will be left! There is no wonder that BB has sadly gone down the pan!You are welcome to join us on the fredster thread at any time! Hug


AWWW (insert hug smiley here, cant do em on the PS3) I aint goin anywhere just wont be WATCHIN anywhere near as much, IF Marcus goes I will STILL be here but even MORE grumpy and snarly than I am now, hehe
old hippy guy
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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
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Originally posted by figtree:
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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
well said Senora, I saw that in him from near enough day 1, some people just look at the outside and are FAR too quick to judge, I said it weeks ago and I STILL say it, he is the ONLY one who has been true to himself from day 1 and as such the ONLY worthy winner IMO
IF he goes 2morrow then thats BB OVER for me, couldn't bear to see ANY ONE of the others win it as they are ALL arseholes IMO,



Aww Hippy Don't leave us! Frowner I understand how you feel.Most of those left in are not there on merit but simply due to numbers! It was very much weighted against the real,true characters this year.Only the flotsome and jetsome,the rubbish left on the outgoing tide will be left! There is no wonder that BB has sadly gone down the pan!You are welcome to join us on the fredster thread at any time! Hug


AWWW (insert hug smiley here, cant do em on the PS3) I aint goin anywhere just wont be WATCHIN anywhere near as much, IF Marcus goes I will STILL be here but even MORE grumpy and snarly than I am now, hehe


Hug
Senora Reyes
Marcus is a good person at heart Smiler, he obviously has some issues from the past that he hasn't probably confronted and puts on the tough bravado but deep down is a softie. I think maybe the BB experience has maybe brought out another side to him or has benefited him in some way and I hope if he does go tomorrow who knows that he cna sort this out.
darloboy (Play The Game!)
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Originally posted by darloboy07:
Marcus is a good person at heart Smiler, he obviously has some issues from the past that he hasn't probably confronted and puts on the tough bravado but deep down is a softie. I think maybe the BB experience has maybe brought out another side to him or has benefited him in some way and I hope if he does go tomorrow who knows that he cna sort this out.


Very true Darlo hun.
Senora Reyes
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Originally posted by darloboy07:
Marcus is a good person at heart Smiler, he obviously has some issues from the past that he hasn't probably confronted and puts on the tough bravado but deep down is a softie. I think maybe the BB experience has maybe brought out another side to him or has benefited him in some way and I hope if he does go tomorrow who knows that he cna sort this out.


Nice post Darlo. Hug But he aint going anywhere tomorrow! Marcus to win! Nod
B
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Originally posted by pepsi:
I like Marcus as he is Big Grin

For years I have wished they would just put an REAL person in..... as have many others. Then when they do he gets slated

He has stayed true to himself, and kept it real and been the only watchable thing about BB this year for me


Tonight's highlights made me laugh. I know some people will have been offended by the language but that's never been a ****ing issue with me.

He does not compromise, does not accede to authority and will not ever, ever stop. He's the BB10 terminator. Big Grin I don't always like him but I have far more empathy with him than anyone else in there bar mebbe Siavash.
Cariad
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Originally posted by Cariad:
I was at Longleat earlier this year and on a tour of the house read the following poem:

"She said I was a wolf in sheep's clothing,
She was wrong.
I was a lamb in armour."

Actually, that mebbe why I do empathise with Marcus. Red Face Big Grin

Wow! I don't know that poem/quote! That says so much about so many of us! Who's it by? Clapping
Xochi
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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
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Originally posted by Cariad:
I was at Longleat earlier this year and on a tour of the house read the following poem:

"She said I was a wolf in sheep's clothing,
She was wrong.
I was a lamb in armour."

Actually, that mebbe why I do empathise with Marcus. Red Face Big Grin


Love that poem! Clapping


Who the hell is the poet? **bangs head** I was with a large group of kids and read it but missed the writer....
Cariad
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Originally posted by Xochiquetzal:
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Originally posted by Cariad:
I was at Longleat earlier this year and on a tour of the house read the following poem:

"She said I was a wolf in sheep's clothing,
She was wrong.
I was a lamb in armour."

Actually, that mebbe why I do empathise with Marcus. Red Face Big Grin

Wow! I don't know that poem/quote! That says so much about so many of us! Who's it by? Clapping


I dunno. It really rang a bell with me but I was distracted so didn't note the author. I've Googled since but can't find anything.

Was a series by same writer being run at Longleat in June.
Cariad
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
IMO if Marcus stopped going to great lengths to *Shock* folk he'd perhaps have a much more fulfilling life....Let his endearing qualities lead and just follow where they take him....Who knows he could end up happier than he ever hoped or imagined. Nod


He seems to have full life Lee. Have you looked at his website? As well as a job he likes doing, he has lots of friends and many interests.
B
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Originally posted by *BB*:
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
IMO if Marcus stopped going to great lengths to *Shock* folk he'd perhaps have a much more fulfilling life....Let his endearing qualities lead and just follow where they take him....Who knows he could end up happier than he ever hoped or imagined. Nod


He seems to have full life Lee. Have you looked at his website? As well as a job he likes doing, he has lots of friends and many interests.

Sometimes being in a crowd is the loneliest place in the world to be BB...I hope he finds true happiness in his life lays the ghosts of his past to rest and moves onwards and upwards.
~Lee~
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
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Originally posted by *BB*:
quote:
Originally posted by ~LEE~:
IMO if Marcus stopped going to great lengths to *Shock* folk he'd perhaps have a much more fulfilling life....Let his endearing qualities lead and just follow where they take him....Who knows he could end up happier than he ever hoped or imagined. Nod


He seems to have full life Lee. Have you looked at his website? As well as a job he likes doing, he has lots of friends and many interests.

Sometimes being in a crowd is the loneliest place in the world to be BB...I hope he finds true happiness in his life lays the ghosts of his past to rest and moves onwards and upwards.


Totally agree Lee.
Senora Reyes

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