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Originally posted by Tweety:
Hi Jumbo Jimbo, haven't spoke to you for ages.

I'm a smoker but I don't mind the smoking ban. I end up staying in/going to people's houses and having a drink more, which costs less and when I do go to the pub, I enjoy sitting in the beer garden. lol

Hi Tweety, ya its been ages, hope you are well. As for your comment, good for you Tweety good for you

I don't mind going outside to smoke so the ban doesn't bother me much and I'd feel more guilty if my cigarette fumes were being inhaled by young kids in a restaurant although, to be honest, if you're drinking in a pub then you're probably damaging your body with alcohol anyway so why grumble about damaging it with cigarette smoke?

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Originally posted by Well-Wisher:
I don't mind going outside to smoke so the ban doesn't bother me much and I'd feel more guilty if my cigarette fumes were being inhaled by young kids in a restaurant although, to be honest, if you're drinking in a pub then you're probably damaging your body with alcohol anyway so why grumble about damaging it with cigarette smoke?

It was the smell on my clothes and hair and every teeny tiny hair on my skin that made me grumble, not the damage to my lungs

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Originally posted by Suzy:
I think it should stay because of the effects of passive smoking.

I do not smoke myself but I am tolerant of smokers personally and I do let them smoke in my home.(by a open patio door)

Yes, I agree with you Suzy. I used to let friends smoke in my home but I could smell the smoke for days afterwards especially in the winter when I could not open the windows to air it off. Banning smoking was a good move in my view

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Originally posted by Tartanveggie:

It was the smell on my clothes and hair and every teeny tiny hair on my skin that made me grumble, not the damage to my lungs

Maybe this might help-

How To Get Rid Of Smoke Smell

I used to really hate that cigarette smell but then I started smoking and now I don't even notice it.

it's absolutely feckin ridiculous and should never have been enforced in the first place. it should have been up to the individual establishments to decide, even if that meant they had to pay more for a special smoking license.

they've got the smoking ban in spain but it's not enforced...those places that want to permit smoking can do so, those that want to ban it become non-smoking bars. they put signs in the window letting you know whether it's smoking or non-smoking and guess what...?! people go to the one they want!! non-smokers don't smell and die of passive smoking and smokers aren't made to feel like social pariahs. genius! britain should have done the same. oh no hang on - that would mean treating its citizens like mature adults capable of independant thought, and there are laws against doing that

*by an ex-smoker

cant stand the smell of it on me clothes n hair and glad it has finally been banned

i'm more concerned about the loss of our freedom of choice than second-hand smoke.

we're going to die one day anyway, fags or no fags, and i'd prefer to die in a place where my actions hadn't been dictated to me

I'm all for a ban in certain places i.e. restaurants and anywhere food is served and bus stops especially not that any where I lives pays attention to that one.

As for pubs it's a tricky one - I understand as an ex-smoker that it's nice to enjoy a drink and a fag so I don't see why a room couldn't be designated smoking only and have a filter system. The problem with it could be that bar staff could still be exposed to the effects of smoke whilst collecting glasses and cleaners may also get some of the effects whilst cleaning the following day! Maybe they should not have a bar in the room but make the smokers come out to the non smoking room to get drinks with no fag in their gob? Who knows!

i don't buy the argument about bar staff, i think it's an excuse. if you're scared of getting burnt to death you don't become a fireman. if you're scared of passive smoking you don't apply for a job in a smoky environment.

of course the government will never follow it through to its logical conclusion and make smoking completely illegal - imagine the loss in revenue!

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Originally posted by vodka jellyfish:
i don't buy the argument about bar staff, i think it's an excuse. if you're scared of getting burnt to death you don't become a fireman. if you're scared of passive smoking you don't apply for a job in a smoky environment.

of course the government will never follow it through to its logical conclusion and make smoking completely illegal - imagine the loss in revenue!

But you do have the right as an employee to work in as safe an environment as possible and just cos you work in a bar doesnt mean you should be exposed to unnecessary hazards to your health. PS agree the govt will not bag smoking altogether (a) cos the loss in revenue and (b) cos it wont want to do anything so unpopular and lose votes

I believe we should have a better system, like they do in Holland. They have different classes of smoking, some bars are completely non-smoking, some you can only smoke at the bar, and some you can smoke throughout. This way it gives the punters and the landlords a choice of which kind they would like.

I am a non smoker and have never had problems with smokers..if I did not want to be around smokers I had a choice..today I have no choice when I walk along the street and have to walk through drinkers outside pubs having a fag, usually half cut, kicking butts out of the paths and breathing in the fumes from smokers as I am walking along the road (they gorra blow it somewhere), so for me, it has taken my choices away..

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Originally posted by Bagel Queen:
I am a non smoker and have never had problems with smokers..if I did not want to be around smokers I had a choice..today I have no choice when I walk along the street and have to walk through drinkers outside pubs having a fag, usually half cut, kicking butts out of the paths and breathing in the fumes from smokers as I am walking along the road (they gorra blow it somewhere), so for me, it has taken my choices away..

totally agree


health and safety is one thing, but it seems to me that there's a bigger issue here - one concerning civil liberties - which has been overlooked.

the hypocracy of the whole thing pees me off as well....the government are so concerned for public safety - but apparently not for their own because they can still spark up in the House. Go figure.

why can't you smoke in a pub, and yet you can still go in there, drink 12 pints of stella and glass some fecker on the way out before going home and dying of liver cirrhosis?

grrr it really gets my goat (and it's a bloody nice goat too )

thankyou No one really thinks about the general public who have to walk past the smokers in the street, because, unfortunatley, they are not allowed to smoke inside or a designated area..I have seen butts casually flicked into the road, sparks flying everwhere coz the butt bin is full..now that to me is a health and safety hazard full on..I wonder if any risk assessment's have been carried out to assess the situation..nah!!

I grew up in a house where everyone smoked. I have fond memories of being a 4 year old, sitting next to my father and watching him blow smoke rings. "One day", I said, "I will smoke too and be able to blow smoke rings like my father" and now I can. Cigarettes were part of the magical, mysterious world of adulthood to me.

I welcome the smoking ban because it adds
a new allure to smoking.

It makes smoking seem like a more rebellious act than it was before and that means more young people taking up the habit.

Ban smoking altogether, even better,
then it will be really to smoke.

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Originally posted by Doc Holiday:
I grew up in a house where everyone smoked. I have fond memories of being a 4 year old, sitting next to my father and watching him blow smoke rings. "One day", I said, "I will smoke too and be able to blow smoke rings like my father" and now I can. Cigarettes were part of the magical, mysterious world of adulthood to me.

I welcome the smoking ban because it adds
a new allure to smoking.

It makes smoking seem like a more rebellious act than it was before and that means more young people taking up the habit.

Ban smoking altogether, even better,
then it will be really to smoke.

pmsl!

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Originally posted by Doc Holiday:
I grew up in a house where everyone smoked. I have fond memories of being a 4 year old, sitting next to my father and watching him blow smoke rings. "One day", I said, "I will smoke too and be able to blow smoke rings like my father" and now I can. Cigarettes were part of the magical, mysterious world of adulthood to me.

I welcome the smoking ban because it adds
a new allure to smoking.

It makes smoking seem like a more rebellious act than it was before and that means more young people taking up the habit.

Ban smoking altogether, even better,
then it will be really to smoke.

UP THE REVOLUTION !!!!

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Originally posted by vodka jellyfish:

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Originally posted by Doc Holiday:
I grew up in a house where everyone smoked. I have fond memories of being a 4 year old, sitting next to my father and watching him blow smoke rings. "One day", I said, "I will smoke too and be able to blow smoke rings like my father" and now I can. Cigarettes were part of the magical, mysterious world of adulthood to me.

I welcome the smoking ban because it adds
a new allure to smoking.

It makes smoking seem like a more rebellious act than it was before and that means more young people taking up the habit.

Ban smoking altogether, even better,
then it will be really to smoke.

pmsl!

yay! thats the answer!