quote:Originally posted by Templetonpeck:quote:Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
I was thought to never speak ill of the dead no matter what because the wages of sin is death and after that their slate is wiped clean...
People should put themselves in other peoples shoes for a change maybe then can we progress together in this wicked world that we live in...
Not meaning to be provocative, and I am in no way suggesting that MJ should be categorised in this way, but by that reasoning wouldn't it also that mean that we should all respect the likes of Myrah Hindley and Adolf Hitler because they're dead?
a relative of mine died, I hated his guts, but I didn't parade that round at his funeral, I sat there all quiet and respected the rights of those around me who didn't know him like I did to mourn his death. I think the use of Myra Hindley and Hitler are a bit extreme, given what they did, but I'm just pointing out, sometimes people die that you don't like and whilst no one expects you to be bold over with fake grief, if there's something that some one posts that you find out of line, surely you're entitled to say it?
Of course they are, but that should work both ways. If a relative of mine had died that I didn't like, I certainly wouldn't want to upset anyone who didn't feel the same way, so I would show my respect for THEM by just not going to the funeral. That way I wouldn't feel as though I was being expected to compromise my feelings, or theirs, by showing or hiding my true feelings. You're clearly a more magnanimous person than me. I don't really have feelings about MJ's death one way or another tbh. I think if he'd died 20 years ago I would have felt much sadder about it than I do today though. I certainly wouldn't deliberately try to upset anyone who felt they were affected by his death, but at the same time I think it's unfair to demand that we should all now show respect for someone just because others do. I agree that using Myrah and Adolf as examples was extreme but it was a reaction to PCE's statement that she was taught "to never speak ill of the dead no matter what because the wages of sin is death and after that their slate is wiped clean... " Which in my (highly irreligious) opinion is wrong. PCE clearly has a religious view on death and judgement, my view (shared I think by a few other FM's) is more humanist. As well as his deservedly fantastic musical reputation, MJ had a dubious, albeit unproven, reputation as far as children goes. For some the music will dominate their memory but for others it will be his sad and strange later personal life. For me it will be a combination of the two. MJ and his life is much too complicated a subject to be portrayed and judged in black and white terms (no pun intended, honestly!).